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Diogenese

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We were initially expecting Akida 2 to include LSTM, and this would have required the inclusion of additional memory in the NPUs.

Then more recently we were alerted to transformers, which are alleged to be able to understand natural language. To do this, they will need sufficient memory to capture the context of speech, requiring a much larger memory. This means that each die (SoC) will have a significantly larger silicon footprint on the silicon wafer.

We were told that the electrical circuit design of Akida 2 with LSTM had been sent to Anil's group quite some time ago, before transformers raised their head(s). So it is possible that the extended period between the finalization of LSTM and this announcement was the result of the later addition of transformer functionality (and concomitant additional memory and associated logic).

So I'm if, as a result of the larger footprint, wondering if Akida 2 will be produced in a smaller format, eg, 7 nm, which, as the table shows, as of 2023, is quite a mature technology, so mature that a conservative company like Renesas has chosen it for its Akida MCU?

After all 7 nm has been with us for over 4 years ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_nm_process#:~:text=The first mainstream 7 nm mobile processor intended,was released at Apple's September 2018 event. ).

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There were sound reasons for choosing 28 nm for Akida 1, and I'm surmising that the immaturity of smaller scales was among the foremost. However Renesas' choice of 7 nm suggests that the tech is now well accepted.

Of course there are a number of intermediate technologies which Anil may choose, but I doubt he will go smaller than 7 nm.
 
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Yes, Accenture is huge. My sister works for them and they have a footprint all over the globe.

This is interesting from Accenture......


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When I read this info contained in the article this jumped out. Do we know that Accenture are partners Mercedes. “with Neuromorphic technologies make efficient onboard AI possible. In a recent collaboration with an automotive client, we demonstrated that spiking neural networks running on a neuromorphic processor can recognize simple voice commands up to 0.2 seconds faster than a commonly used embedded GPU accelerator, while using up to a thousand times less power. This brings truly intelligent, low latency interactions into play, at the edge, even within the power-limited constraints of a parked vehicle.
 
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I think you’ll find that Sean has a personal relationship with Accenture, most likely through his days at HP so that’s just another reason why Sean may be doing this podcast.
Just my opinion 😁
Yes. To land a 700k+ personnel fish, you need a lot of pull.
 
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Past performance does not guarantee future performance.

This isn’t the first LDA Capital call, I always find it interesting to look back to previous times to get an idea of how the market might react.
Previous Capital calls: 14/01/22; 16/8/21.

This is my amateur effort for a visual representation of @Teach22's post

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We were initially expecting Akida 2 to include LSTM, and this would have required the inclusion of additional memory in the NPs.

Then more recently we were alerted to transformers, which are alleged to be able to understand natural language. To do this, they will need sufficient memory to capture the context of speech, requiring a much larger memory. This means that each die (SoC) will have a significantly larger silicon footprint on the silicon wafer.

We were told that the electrical circuit design of Akida 2 with LSTM had been sent to Anil's group quite some time ago, before transformers raised their head(s). So it is possible that the extended period between the finalization of LSTM and this announcement was the result of the later addition of transformer functionality (and concomitant additional memory and associated logic).

So I'm if, as a result of the larger footprint, wondering if Akida 2 will be produced in a smaller format, eg, 7 nm, which, as the table shows, as of 2023, is quite a mature technology, so mature that a conservative company like Renesas has chosen it for its Akida MCU?

After all 7 nm has been with us for over 4 years ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_nm_process#:~:text=The first mainstream 7 nm mobile processor intended,was released at Apple's September 2018 event. ).

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There were sound reasons for choosing 28 nm for Akida 1, and I'm surmising that the immaturity of smaller scales was among the foremost. However Renesas' choice of 7 nm suggests that the tech is now well accepted.

Of course there are a number of intermediate technologies which Anil may choose, but I doubt he will go smaller than 7 nm.
I've seen interviews with Mike Davies where he states Loihi 2 was the first chip Intel produced on their new Intel 4 (7nm) process (pre production). Interesting choice given that Loihi is a research chip that is years away from commercialization (another statement from Mike)
 
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Could this not be the Akida 1500?

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Not if you have followed everything that has been said by Peter van der Made, Ken Scarince and Sean Hehir since 2021 it can only be the AKD2000 etc.

Spending the money to produce the reference chip for AKD1500 makes no economic sense.

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HopalongPetrovski

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Oh cheers was looking for that.
Kindly reminder to all we have a bookmark feature here to save individual post like this.
@HopalongPetrovski you been buying again yesterday or today? 😂
Not me this time mate. 🤣
As often before in my life, blown me load early. 🤣
Livin' on beans till we get our next decent rocket announcement. 🤣

 
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Do you ever do any research before making assertions.

The LDA Capital agreement prohibits the use of Brainchip’s shares for shorting.

If you have evidence they have been shorting in contravention of the agreement then take it to Brainchip so they can claim damages for breach.

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Hi FF,
No assertions, just the layman opinion of a member on a chat forum, but thanks for your reply.
Regards
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I've seen interviews with Mike Davies where he states Loihi 2 was the first chip Intel produced on their new Intel 4 (7nm) process (pre production). Interesting choice given that Loihi is a research chip that is years away from commercialization (another statement from Mike)
Think about these FACTS:

Mike Davies knows about AKIDA and it’s power and performance at 28nm;

Loihi 2 at 7nm still burns 2 to 4 watts of power;

If Loihi 2 was produced in a less expensive 28nm you could run direct comparisons and the power savings he achieves at 7nm do not exist as a cover for just how far behind AKIDA Loihi 2 has fallen.

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Bravo

If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
You need to go back to the AGM presentation and comments made during the AGM by Sean Hehir and Peter van der Made and I have no doubt when you do the only chip they could possibly be producing is the AKIDA2000, AKD2000, AKIDA 2.0 which are all one in the same chip but as this shows a final ‘what will it be called’ has not been decided.

I am confident that the failure to settle on a final name is to allow AKIDA 1.0/ AKIDA TM clean air in the market place until they reach the point of a public launch of this next generation more advanced version.

If AKIDA 1.0 is Science Fiction this next generation will be Science Fiction on steroids.

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Hi @Fact Finder, imagine how spun out we'd all be if the next iteration of AKIDA was called"ACE"? 😝

Thanks to @Sam for providing the screenshot below from ChatGPT3.

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As always could be nothing could be something and could have already been posted.
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So this is my view from my place. I just moved my bids to .685 cause I'm an impatient prick. When BRN reaches $2 again I can knock down this currently holiday house and build a big double storey retirement home. Downstairs for when the daughter give us grand kids. As a wise man said, generational weath is what I am also in here for. Worst case, I gotta wait till I can access my super to build. Within 5 years and BRN will get me 5 years earlier retirement. Brunch was good. Hahaha, sorry to the Northen hemisphere people suffering the cold.
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We were initially expecting Akida 2 to include LSTM, and this would have required the inclusion of additional memory in the NPUs.

Then more recently we were alerted to transformers, which are alleged to be able to understand natural language. To do this, they will need sufficient memory to capture the context of speech, requiring a much larger memory. This means that each die (SoC) will have a significantly larger silicon footprint on the silicon wafer.

We were told that the electrical circuit design of Akida 2 with LSTM had been sent to Anil's group quite some time ago, before transformers raised their head(s). So it is possible that the extended period between the finalization of LSTM and this announcement was the result of the later addition of transformer functionality (and concomitant additional memory and associated logic).

So I'm if, as a result of the larger footprint, wondering if Akida 2 will be produced in a smaller format, eg, 7 nm, which, as the table shows, as of 2023, is quite a mature technology, so mature that a conservative company like Renesas has chosen it for its Akida MCU?

After all 7 nm has been with us for over 4 years ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7_nm_process#:~:text=The first mainstream 7 nm mobile processor intended,was released at Apple's September 2018 event. ).

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There were sound reasons for choosing 28 nm for Akida 1, and I'm surmising that the immaturity of smaller scales was among the foremost. However Renesas' choice of 7 nm suggests that the tech is now well accepted.

Of course there are a number of intermediate technologies which Anil may choose, but I doubt he will go smaller than 7 nm.
SOME more fact based SPECULATION:

7nm more expensive than 28nm so perhaps the LDA Capital call is funding the shortfall over the previously budgeted amount. The CFO Ken Scarince said the amounts in the end June 2022 4C was for the IP and other costs to produce AKD2000. The release today states to fund the production of the chip.

Conveniently 7nm is available from Intel in due course if they go with TSMC again.

At 7nm AKIDA can be benchmarked directly against Loihi 2.

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