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[Taproot]

We know at the very least that Brainchip are working with Mercedes on the "Hey Mercedes" feature.

Motortrend: Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX Concept

Mercedes engineers worked with California-based AI developer BrainChip to create systems based on the company's Akida hardware and software.

brainchip.com

Mercedes engineers worked with California-based artificial-intelligence developer BrainChip to create systems based on the company’s Akida hardware and software. Among other things, the technology makes the “Hey, Mercedes” voice control system in the EQXX five to ten times more efficient than conventional voice control.

Note* The Mercedes logo is still proudly displayed on Brainchip's website today, so clearly we are still working with Mercedes to create systems based on Akida, as pointed out in the above Motortrend article.

The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is getting a giant touchscreen, TikTok, and a selfie camera

MBUX gets a major upgrade.

www.theverge.com

Also helping to lessen distractions caused by the huge screens and complex features is an upgraded AI assistant. The MBUX software no longer requires you to say “Hey Mercedes” before issuing any voice commands — instead, a new “Just Talk” feature is indicated by a red microphone symbol on the display, allowing drivers to more easily give commands for things like navigation and climate control. Multiple commands can now be linked together by saying “and.” Owners can create new routines for the car, like turning on seat heating and changing the ambient lighting color to orange if the cabin temperature is below 50 degrees or automatically lowering the driver’s window when you arrive at work at the same time each day.

In todays MBOS update by Mercedes, ( Which is worth watching, even though Brainchip are not mentioned by name ), you'll discover that " Hey Mercedes" feature will no longer require you to actually say "Hey Mercedes" but instead a new "Just Talk" feature is indicated by a red microphone symbol on the display. So you don't just start randomly start talking to the car, you'll need to activate the feature by tapping the red microphone symbol on the display !!

Go to the 52:30 minute mark and listen to the following couple of minutes. Magnus Ostberg highlights the fact that this function is paired with AI.

My personal opinion on why they made the change is to differentiate themselves from everyone else using the same " Hey Siri " "Hey BMW" etc

 

[Stable Genius]

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Really. So do we have connections with Luminar for the ADAS too?

Not downramping here guys, just don't get why there wasn't an inkling of a mention of our groundbreaking technology. And we can't use the NDA playcard here as an excuse, as MB have mentioned us previously.

HI JK,

Today’s show from MB was them mapping out their plan for the next few years and to announce major partnerships worth billions of dollars.

With NVIDIA being the first one up it was always unlikely BRAINCHIP was going to get a mention today and take some shine away from NVIDIA. The deal was explained as a 50/50 partnership. MB would supply the vehicle and NVIDIA the software for free but get a much larger share of the profit. They were asked why they didn’t just buy the software and they said it would be just too expensive to be cost effective and this was the best option. As it was explained the MB guy was grinning like a Cheshire Cat as he obviously thinks he has done a great deal to get all the software technology for free at the front end! This includes OTA updates. Therefore NVIDIA gets first up on stage and allowed their time in the spotlight!


Brainchip had our time in the spotlight last year when there were adverts via various mediums to promote the neuromorphic technology.

i’ve stated before I think this was to get the audience/customer used to hearing about the technology before they are asked to buy it!

It’s also because MB pride themselves on being technology leaders and want to be seen ushering in this science fiction beast!

Brainchip‘s price went up significantly on the information but because there was no immediate revenue to follow; as we all know it has deflated.



GOOGLE and LUMINAR were also massive new deals which is why they got some stage time.


Although we are a vital technology MB had many other product features of their new car to sell/promote today.

They are changing the way cars/features are bought and sold. For example features within the car can be paid for and turn on, or not paid for by the next owner and turned off; like a subscription model! One good thing for us is the safety features, e.g. sensors and Akida will be in all cars. Although there was a differentiation of a top end model which may be the inclusion of the Scala 3 lidar via Valeo.

MB articulated how much time, deliberation and effort went into deciding on their partners today. I’m sure that same time and effort went into choosing Brainchip. They have set themselves on a path to using us. They have done a heap of work, spent lots of time and money developing our technology in-house to suit their needs. I am not fearful we are going to be dumped… and if we were what current product is going to match Akida? How long would this set them back? This is a race to market therefore MB are going to follow their chosen path to success which includes Akida.

I’d also be very surprised if at some time LUMINAR doesn’t announce they are using Akida as well as they are going to need all the features we offer and between them and MB they have the expertise to put it together! MB already own a portion of LUMINAR therefore I thought that was always going to be a pathway for them to get their product chain as close to in-house as they could get it!

Also; If you think about it NVIDIA are already working with Brainchip as their software is receiving data from Akida so how long will it be before they use us in something else? This would be why Rob T said that he didn’t see them as competitors!

I saw todays media release as a big positive for Akida; although I agree it will take time to see the revenue I believe it will be worth the wait!

 

[jtardif999]

I unfortunately recall that last year Mercedes announced they would present on three new technologies one of which was neuromorphic and asked people to vote for the one they would like to hear about first.

I suggested that Mercedes like lawyers would not have asked this question unless they had focus grouped it and had a statistically accurate idea of which technology would win. In other words they asked this question believing they knew the answer.

I said that when neuromorphic won that Brainchip voters probably ruined Mercedes Benz’s plan and they would resolve that by simply delaying the neuromorphic presentation until it would have been given in any event which I suggested could be six months away.

Earlier this year (2023) Mercedes Benz confirmed that they would deliver the neuromorphic presentation but did not provide a date and I suggested it likely could be March if memory serves me correctly.

It is just my opinion of course but my poor logic tells me that if Mercedes’ Benz has a competition to build anticipation around a series of presentations they would be unlikely to lessen the impact of such presentations by revealing the same information at earlier events.

I also based on poor logic suggest that as Brainchip said late last year they were continuing to work with Mercedes Benz that in all likelihood full implementation aimed at implementing AKIDA technology at scale is still in design or at least still under test if design work has been finalised.

If this poor logic stands up then there is nothing at all to be read into the absence of a discussion of neuromorphic in any other presentation.

Then again it could be that Brainchip has been caste aside by Mercedes Benz and Brainchip are delaying advising the market and removing the Mercedes’ Benz logo because they know it would cause distress to shareholders.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

In this presentation today one of the presenters, I can’t remember which? - said (regarding the power aspects of MB.OS) there will be a separate presentation regarding power at a later date. There was a recent article (haven’t got the link but it was in this thread a week or so ago) describing how MB.OS is architected for power savings as taking inspiration from biology and how the OS schedules operations like the brain works with spikes queueing them until some configured threshold is achieved to save power. I’m hoping that what was said today regarding this extra presentation about power will perhaps showcase the part that Neuromorphic technology will play in this improved architecture and ultimately how this helps the car achieve a very competitive driving range. AIMO.

 

[zeeb0t]

Hello all

Just to serve as a reminder, this morning a well known poster with hundreds of posts in history, was automatically detected by forensic systems employed by my software, as using a duplicate / additional account with a more recent pest / troll account that appeared.

I will not name names, but, this should serve as a warning to others who think of doing this.

You may have ways of doing this, and avoiding detection for a while. But eventually, you will be identified, and quickly dispatched.

Note: this comes with a life-long ban. Any additional detections will then be automatically dispatched by the system.

Update: Also just to reaffirm for those who don't know - it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone or any system to outright prevent misuse of said systems. This is a risk of the internet, technology, and even non-technology - that someone will find ways, to hide who they are, and create chaos.

You need only look in any direction in this day and age, and it is what you find.

But every effort is made to prevent what can be prevented.

 

[Kachoo]

Hello all

Just to serve as a reminder, this morning a well known poster with hundreds of posts in history, was automatically detected by forensic systems employed by my software, as using a duplicate / additional account with a more recent pest / troll account that appeared.

I will not name names, but, this should serve as a warning to others who think of doing this.

You may have ways of doing this, and avoiding detection for a while. But eventually, you will be identified, and quickly dispatched.

Note: this comes with a life-long ban. Any additional detections will then be automatically dispatched by the system.

Wow the fun police lol

 

[Rskiff]

Hello all

Just to serve as a reminder, this morning a well known poster with hundreds of posts in history, was automatically detected by forensic systems employed by my software, as using a duplicate / additional account with a more recent pest / troll account that appeared.

I will not name names, but, this should serve as a warning to others who think of doing this.

You may have ways of doing this, and avoiding detection for a while. But eventually, you will be identified, and quickly dispatched.

Note: this comes with a life-long ban. Any additional detections will then be automatically dispatched by the system.

So we have to see who doesn't appear in order to ascertain who. Thanks for setting this up @zeeb0t and monitoring with your forensic systems. Keep TSEx clean!!!

 

[Deleted member 118]

Hello all

Just to serve as a reminder, this morning a well known poster with hundreds of posts in history, was automatically detected by forensic systems employed by my software, as using a duplicate / additional account with a more recent pest / troll account that appeared.

I will not name names, but, this should serve as a warning to others who think of doing this.

You may have ways of doing this, and avoiding detection for a while. But eventually, you will be identified, and quickly dispatched.

Note: this comes with a life-long ban. Any additional detections will then be automatically dispatched by the system.

 

[Fact Finder]

Hello all

Just to serve as a reminder, this morning a well known poster with hundreds of posts in history, was automatically detected by forensic systems employed by my software, as using a duplicate / additional account with a more recent pest / troll account that appeared.

I will not name names, but, this should serve as a warning to others who think of doing this.

You may have ways of doing this, and avoiding detection for a while. But eventually, you will be identified, and quickly dispatched.

Note: this comes with a life-long ban. Any additional detections will then be automatically dispatched by the system.

Hi @zeeb0t

Might I suggest that if this occurs again and is detected this person and their account details should be referred to the ASIC for prosecution.

My firm opinion
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

Have you got your bloody SMSF sorted yet Rocket?
I'd like to give good ole Seany boy a call and get him to release the hounds regarding the share price.

 

[Deleted member 118]

Have you got your bloody SMSF sorted yet Rocket?
I'd like to give good ole Seany boy a call and get him to release the hounds regarding the share price.

No as my accountant is on his holidays so waiting for an acn number.

 

[Diogenese]

We know at the very least that Brainchip are working with Mercedes on the "Hey Mercedes" feature.

Motortrend: Mercedes-Benz Vision EQXX Concept

Mercedes engineers worked with California-based AI developer BrainChip to create systems based on the company's Akida hardware and software.

brainchip.com

Mercedes engineers worked with California-based artificial-intelligence developer BrainChip to create systems based on the company’s Akida hardware and software. Among other things, the technology makes the “Hey, Mercedes” voice control system in the EQXX five to ten times more efficient than conventional voice control.

Note* The Mercedes logo is still proudly displayed on Brainchip's website today, so clearly we are still working with Mercedes to create systems based on Akida, as pointed out in the above Motortrend article.

The Mercedes-Benz E-Class is getting a giant touchscreen, TikTok, and a selfie camera

MBUX gets a major upgrade.

www.theverge.com

Also helping to lessen distractions caused by the huge screens and complex features is an upgraded AI assistant. The MBUX software no longer requires you to say “Hey Mercedes” before issuing any voice commands — instead, a new “Just Talk” feature is indicated by a red microphone symbol on the display, allowing drivers to more easily give commands for things like navigation and climate control. Multiple commands can now be linked together by saying “and.” Owners can create new routines for the car, like turning on seat heating and changing the ambient lighting color to orange if the cabin temperature is below 50 degrees or automatically lowering the driver’s window when you arrive at work at the same time each day.

In todays MBOS update by Mercedes, ( Which is worth watching, even though Brainchip are not mentioned by name ), you'll discover that " Hey Mercedes" feature will no longer require you to actually say "Hey Mercedes" but instead a new "Just Talk" feature is indicated by a red microphone symbol on the display. So you don't just start randomly start talking to the car, you'll need to activate the feature by tapping the red microphone symbol on the display !!

Go to the 52:30 minute mark and listen to the following couple of minutes. Magnus Ostberg highlights the fact that this function is paired with AI.

My personal opinion on why they made the change is to differentiate themselves from everyone else using the same " Hey Siri " "Hey BMW" etc

Will "Hey Mercedes" be used in the new E-class:

The new E-Class: dimensional concept and interior design​

Stuttgart, February 22, 2023
The new E-Class: dimensional concept and interior design - Mercedes me media (mercedes-benz.com)

Mercedes-Benz Media

Exklusive Einblicke und individuelle Angebote: Erleben Sie mit Mercedes-Benz das Maximum aus digitaler Live-PR. Exclusive insights and individual offers: Experience the maximum of digital live PR with Mercedes-Benz.

media.mercedes-benz.com

More operating convenience is also available with MBUX. With the "Just Talk" function, the intelligent voice control can now be activated without the keyword "Hey Mercedes". When the function is activated, a red microphone symbol appears in the display. This indicates that the vehicle is ready and waiting for commands.

Added day-to-day convenience: the routines

Mercedes-Benz is working on using artificial intelligence (AI) so that the car learns which comfort systems vehicle occupants use repeatedly. Given the same circumstances, the aim is for AI to automate such functions9. The result is personalised automation. Mercedes-Benz uses the term “routine” for this innovation, the development of which is already well advanced.

On the launch of the new E-Class, customers will be able to use templates for standard routines. They also have the option of creating routines themselves. In doing so, the occupants can link several functions and conditions. For example, "Switch on the seat heating and set the ambient lighting to warm orange if the interior temperature is below twelve degrees Celsius".

Is just talk an alternative option or a replacement for "Hey Mercedes"?

 

[HopalongPetrovski]

No as my accountant is on his holidays so waiting for an acn number.

 

[Flenton]

I only read neuromorphic camera... anyone want to look deeper?

Neuromorphic camera and machine learning aid nanoscopic imaging

In a new study, researchers at the Indian Institute of Science (IISc) show how a brain-inspired image sensor can go beyond the diffraction limit of light to detect miniscule objects such as cellular components or nanoparticles invisible to current microscopes. Their novel technique, which...

phys.org

 

[Quatrojos]

Good ol’ Allan Musk! You couldn’t contrive a more timely and stereotypical exemplar to remind us of the virtues of censorship…

 

[BaconLover]

No as my accountant is on his holidays so waiting for an acn number.

I have a feeling you'd time this one perfectly.
Good on ya!

 

[Rise from the ashes]

Hello all

Just to serve as a reminder, this morning a well known poster with hundreds of posts in history, was automatically detected by forensic systems employed by my software, as using a duplicate / additional account with a more recent pest / troll account that appeared.

I will not name names, but, this should serve as a warning to others who think of doing this.

You may have ways of doing this, and avoiding detection for a while. But eventually, you will be identified, and quickly dispatched.

Note: this comes with a life-long ban. Any additional detections will then be automatically dispatched by the system.

Update: Also just to reaffirm for those who don't know - it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone or any system to outright prevent misuse of said systems. This is a risk of the internet, technology, and even non-technology - that someone will find ways, to hide who they are, and create chaos.

You need only look in any direction in this day and age, and it is what you find.

But every effort is made to prevent what can be prevented.

Easy worked out who it is already.
False alarm

 

[Dhm]

"Hey Mercedes" will be used in the new E-class:

The new E-Class: dimensional concept and interior design​

Stuttgart, February 22, 2023
The new E-Class: dimensional concept and interior design - Mercedes me media (mercedes-benz.com)

Mercedes-Benz Media

Exklusive Einblicke und individuelle Angebote: Erleben Sie mit Mercedes-Benz das Maximum aus digitaler Live-PR. Exclusive insights and individual offers: Experience the maximum of digital live PR with Mercedes-Benz.

media.mercedes-benz.com

More operating convenience is also available with MBUX. With the "Just Talk" function, the intelligent voice control can now be activated without the keyword "Hey Mercedes". When the function is activated, a red microphone symbol appears in the display. This indicates that the vehicle is ready and waiting for commands.

Added day-to-day convenience: the routines

Mercedes-Benz is working on using artificial intelligence (AI) so that the car learns which comfort systems vehicle occupants use repeatedly. Given the same circumstances, the aim is for AI to automate such functions9. The result is personalised automation. Mercedes-Benz uses the term “routine” for this innovation, the development of which is already well advanced.

On the launch of the new E-Class, customers will be able to use templates for standard routines. They also have the option of creating routines themselves. In doing so, the occupants can link several functions and conditions. For example, "Switch on the seat heating and set the ambient lighting to warm orange if the interior temperature is below twelve degrees Celsius".

Just a reminder that six days ago this was published:
https://www.autodaily.com.au/mercedes-rival-to-the-tesla-model-3-imagined/

 

[Slade]

Hello all

Just to serve as a reminder, this morning a well known poster with hundreds of posts in history, was automatically detected by forensic systems employed by my software, as using a duplicate / additional account with a more recent pest / troll account that appeared.

I will not name names, but, this should serve as a warning to others who think of doing this.

You may have ways of doing this, and avoiding detection for a while. But eventually, you will be identified, and quickly dispatched.

Note: this comes with a life-long ban. Any additional detections will then be automatically dispatched by the system.

Update: Also just to reaffirm for those who don't know - it is IMPOSSIBLE for anyone or any system to outright prevent misuse of said systems. This is a risk of the internet, technology, and even non-technology - that someone will find ways, to hide who they are, and create chaos.

You need only look in any direction in this day and age, and it is what you find.

But every effort is made to prevent what can be prevented.

Throwing out manipulators with multiple accounts. As suspected, not everyone was simply offering an innocent opinion. Great warning to others that think they can coordinate their down ramping. Good stuff Zeebot. The forum is looking a whole lot better.

 

[KMuzza]

See as stated below by Markus Schafer-

Most of us don't pay much attention to the OS that underpins our devices. It runs
in the backround unnoticed ,yet it defines the user experience from top to bottom.
And in a moving vehicle it's critical to safety,performance,comfort and effeciency and much more.

AKIDA BALLISTA UBQTS

 

[Rise from the ashes]

Easy worked out who it is already.

Bastard I even bought you a subscription
Although I could be wrong and he got banned