AVZ Discussion 2022

[wombat74]

When we’re going to court no one will see a cent. Digoil fighted 13 years in several courts and now trying to fight in the courts to seizure anything because the drc don’t pay anything of the 700 million back. Getting money back through a win in courts is fantasy, the drc is bankrupt and this will not change in the near future. Especially because of the that bad current government.

The Icsid is to make pressure and force them to the table. To get international attention and hopefully enough pressure to force them to do the right thing, if not they give a fuck about their reputation.

A lot things have happened behind the scenes, I know they are waiting for something, but that something should had been done some weeks ago, so I share the concerns from doc that it just could be a stalling tactic or a try to foolish us.

To see money back the only way is to sell it to someone the drc want to, but I highly doubt this will happen because they had enough time for a deal and I know they didn’t talked about that scenario with officials yet.

I hope they stand to their word and something good happen in the near future. In my opinion only a agreement and relationship with a ML will let us see a cent again and start a fruitful future for the drc and us. The remove of the cami head was important for it, hopefully new cami is making it better.

The ICC ruled in Dig Oils favour which the DRC gov ignored . Dig Oil then took them to court in the USA and the DRC gov wouldn't show up losing the case again this time by default . No point showing up or paying lawyers in a case you can't win .

After which:
"The government of President Felix Tshisekedi decided in May 2020 “to negotiate formally” with DIG Oil and both sides “approved in principle” a draft deal in December, she said. Many months later, “we have been very disturbed that no settlement agreement has been signed”, Brown said.

Contracts mean sh1t in the DRC . AVZ has been ripped off and is now being ignored . Apparently Nigel is sorting it out .

 

[BEISHA]

Just having a look at the latest offerings by these self appointed nominees

1) They say they are highly credentialed but they are unreliable and untrustworthy

2) They say they were nominated, but who nominated them…. appears they have nominated themselves

3) They say they share shareholders concerns, but not the following….

i) Cominiere illegally refusing our ROFR

ii) Cominiere illegally and fraudulently selling shares in Dathcom ti Zijin at $120million below value and accepting a bribe in the process

iii) Cominiere depriving AVZ of its value in the project after AVZ spent 6 years and $millions developing the project, producing the DFS, Sustainability Report and close relationship with the local population

iv) Cominiere attempting to steal AVZ’s rights to the project tenement, license and ownership

v) Cominiere holding up construction and tax benefits to the DRC

4) They say they will rebuild value in AVZ but we can only take this as being a lie as they seek to undermine all the rights and value the company has been fighting for.

5) They say they have the skills and experience but their track records prove this is another lie. Shareholders here already putting together the track records of these three have uncovered evidence of them selling off assets cheaply and making false claims.

They then go on to question AVZ corporate governance, but AVZ has said a number of times that they have operated within the laws, the ICC has banned Cominiere from refusing AVZ its joint venture rights and AVZ have sought arbitration through the ICSID due to the corruption it has been fighting.

Apart from the above, any intelligent shareholder is aware of the corruption we are up against, and knows that someone previously employed by AVZ (probably, but not limited to Peter Huljich) has been leaking confidential information.

The latest scam offering from the self appointed nominees, obviously there’s more bullshit to go through. I have had several private conversations with shareholders who have information on these three nominees as well as who is behind them.

And all of that info needs to be fired back to the " self appointed nominees " come the AGM.......

 

[MoneyBags1348]

And all of that info needs to be fired back to the " self appointed nominees " come the AGM.......

Most of it was to sow seeds of doubt in shareholders minds BEISH.

That’s going to be the best they’ve got that they came out with today, they have given it all they have

None of what they said will affect our arbitration cases and notice how they tried to completely ignore the Chinese and other corruption we have been fighting, which Huljich has been part of this whole time

Low life wannabe self appointed usurpers of AVZ

 

[Cumquat Cap]

I have major concerns Felix will continue to kick out case down the road under the guise of 'ongoing negotiations' until we're out of money and completely fucked.

MB, great assessment above but the fact management managed a few sells in there working off information we weren't privy to is inexcusable and downright disrespectful. Jan and Graeme have done their entire team a disservice there and are sleeping well at night no doubt

 

[mikejoho]

Just having a look at the latest offerings by these self appointed nominees

1) They say they are highly credentialed but they are unreliable and untrustworthy

2) They say they were nominated, but who nominated them…. appears they have nominated themselves

3) They say they share shareholders concerns, but not the following….

i) Cominiere illegally refusing our ROFR

ii) Cominiere illegally and fraudulently selling shares in Dathcom ti Zijin at $120million below value and accepting a bribe in the process

iii) Cominiere depriving AVZ of its value in the project after AVZ spent 6 years and $millions developing the project, producing the DFS, Sustainability Report and close relationship with the local population

iv) Cominiere attempting to steal AVZ’s rights to the project tenement, license and ownership

v) Cominiere holding up construction and tax benefits to the DRC

4) They say they will rebuild value in AVZ but we can only take this as being a lie as they seek to undermine all the rights and value the company has been fighting for.

5) They say they have the skills and experience but their track records prove this is another lie. Shareholders here already putting together the track records of these three have uncovered evidence of them selling off assets cheaply and making false claims.

They then go on to question AVZ corporate governance, but AVZ has said a number of times that they have operated within the laws, the ICC has banned Cominiere from refusing AVZ its joint venture rights and AVZ have sought arbitration through the ICSID due to the corruption it has been fighting.

Apart from the above, any intelligent shareholder is aware of the corruption we are up against, and knows that someone previously employed by AVZ (probably, but not limited to Peter Huljich) has been leaking confidential information.

The latest scam offering from the self appointed nominees, obviously there’s more bullshit to go through. I have had several private conversations with shareholders who have information on these three nominees as well as who is behind them.

All in my opinion,

As stipulated by MB, this statement is not balanced and it doesn’t provide a clear path forward. It is just basically a winge fest with no guidance as to what influence the three can have. If we wanted world champion wingers on the board then we might as well vote ‘Tolate’ to the position of Chariman. It is one thing to point fingers and throw stones but what would they do differently?

To not acknowledge the wrong doing from Cominere and Zijin, and then to support them in the final paragraph is virtually a vote for corruption. How do they intend on being ‘meticulously respectful’ to Cominere and Zijin? I’m sure the ASX and ASIC would be interested. What is their plan?

The reality is there is no plan. There are no intended actions. This thing has been a parody from the start, with a ridiculous name and an embarrassment to the individuals involved. Unfortunately, the lesson for the three is that their reputations are now shredded and this latest letter has the smell of adhering to, and abetting corruption.

To be clear, that is a NO vote for me.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

I have major concerns Felix will continue to kick out case down the road under the guise of 'ongoing negotiations' until we're out of money and completely fucked.

MB, great assessment above but the fact management managed a few sells in there working off information we weren't privy to is inexcusable and downright disrespectful. Jan and Graeme have done their entire team a disservice there and are sleeping well at night no doubt

I’m not going to argue with you about your second opinion that’s for sure, but I’m not going to dwell on it because it’s obviously a scomo type diversionary attempt by the self appointees to distract us from the real fight.

I think most agree Felix won’t be wanting to go through arbitration and have you noticed…. He’s down in the polls and there’s talk Lukonde getting the boot. I haven’t followed up on those stories so can’t be sure because I’m too busy focused on helping AVZ

 

[cruiser51]

All in my opinion,

As stipulated by MB, this statement is not balanced and it doesn’t provide a clear path forward. It is just basically a winge fest with no guidance as to what influence the three can have. If we wanted world champion wingers on the board then we might as well vote ‘Tolate’ to the position of Chariman. It is one thing to point fingers and throw stones but what would they do differently?

To not acknowledge the wrong doing from Cominere and Zijin, and then to support them in the final paragraph is virtually a vote for corruption. How do they intend on being ‘meticulously respectful’ to Cominere and Zijin? I’m sure the ASX and ASIC would be interested. What is their plan?

The reality is there is no plan. There are no intended actions. This thing has been a parody from the start, with a ridiculous name and an embarrassment to the individuals involved. Unfortunately, the lesson for the three is that their reputations are now shredded and this latest letter has the smell of adhering to, and abetting corruption.

To be clear, that is a NO vote for me.

I reckon PH's performance at Amani Gold (ANL) is a good indicator what you can expect of the Clown Trio.
Currently ANL's SP .001 cps., Amani Gold sold its gold interest early this year to......

Background of the Purchaser
Mabanga Mining SARL is a DRC registered entity.
The main shareholder of the Company is Mr Simon Cong, who is a former director of the Amani Gold, and current manager and 13.5% shareholder of Amani Consulting.

Klaus Eckhof resigned from Amani Gold, after handing the reigns to Peter Huljich.

Do we want a person with ties this close to those people on our BOD?
Is he for fucking real?

 

[Winenut]

I reckon PH's performance at Amani Gold (ANL) is a good indicator what you can expect of the Clown Trio.
Currently ANL's SP .001 cps., Amani Gold sold its gold interest early this year to......

Background of the Purchaser
Mabanga Mining SARL is a DRC registered entity.
The main shareholder of the Company is Mr Simon Cong, who is a former director of the Amani Gold, and current manager and 13.5% shareholder of Amani Consulting.

Klaus Eckhof resigned from Amani Gold, after handing the reigns to Peter Huljich.

Do we want a person with ties this close to those people on our BOD?
Is he for fucking real?

Good post Cruiser

The behaviour borders on criminal doesn't it

Nobody wants a charlatan or a crook anywhere near our board

Just look at the direct ties with the very groups that are trying to undermine AVZ

More of this information needs to get out on the web and other forums and social media as ol' Moneybags has been doing

MMGA and everyone involved in it are an outright disgrace with a litany of actions that stink to high heaven and reeks of the stench of death for shareholder wealth

 

[Hodlandwin69]

So is anyone going to DRC Battery Metals Forum to know what Serge and Christian are saying???

 

[Roon]

The release issued by the three stooges may as well have been written by Zijin and Cominiere - with a dollop of Klaus - and there is little doubt in my mind that they have the ultimate intention of supporting the Chinese in their attemptee takeover of Manono in a greedy and unethical bid to line their own pockets.

Sure, the disclosure record of AVZ management has been woeful, as many of us have complained about before, and the sales of shares whilst information is being withheld is troubling, but these issues are simply being used in this instance to provide a perceived veneer of legitimacy to this clear attempt to subvert the rightful interests of shareholders and the company.

There is no way we should provide these jokers, who obviously want to pull the rug out from under our feet, with any influence over company decision making.

ICSID and ICC are applying pressure, which IMO is where we will find any traction towards a negotiated outcome with DRC authorities, and as such it's no surprise that these obvious proxies of Chinese and other nefarious interests focus so much attention in their missive about abandoning the arbitration efforts.

Snakes in the grass.

 

[Stockinvesting]

I’m not going to argue with you about your second opinion that’s for sure, but I’m not going to dwell on it because it’s obviously a scomo type diversionary attempt by the self appointees to distract us from the real fight.

I think most agree Felix won’t be wanting to go through arbitration and have you noticed…. He’s down in the polls and there’s talk Lukonde getting the boot. I haven’t followed up on those stories so can’t be sure because I’m too busy focused on helping AVZ

Mate. I've loved your work for a very long time. Your enthusiasm is catching. Kudos Sir.

But..... WTF have you done/are doing to help AVZ?

Really!

The BOD can't help us. FFS!!!!!

 

[Thaz]

I reckon PH's performance at Amani Gold (ANL) is a good indicator what you can expect of the Clown Trio.
Currently ANL's SP .001 cps., Amani Gold sold its gold interest early this year to......

Background of the Purchaser
Mabanga Mining SARL is a DRC registered entity.
The main shareholder of the Company is Mr Simon Cong, who is a former director of the Amani Gold, and current manager and 13.5% shareholder of Amani Consulting.

Klaus Eckhof resigned from Amani Gold, after handing the reigns to Peter Huljich.

Do we want a person with ties this close to those people on our BOD?
Is he for fucking real?

ANL is one acronym away from what they enjoy doing with dem pineapples.

 

[Winenut]

ANL is one acronym away from what they enjoy doing with dem pineapples.

One vowel away to be precise...

 

[Winenut]

Mate. I've loved your work for a very long time. Your enthusiasm is catching. Kudos Sir.

But..... WTF have you done/are doing to help AVZ?

Really!

The BOD can't help us. FFS!!!!!

MB is shining a massive light on the corruption and bad actors involved in the terrible situation AVZ is currently facing

Getting the word out to social media, forums, participants in DRC mining Conferences many many different parties as to the issues inherent in the corrupt DRC mining system

This is putting pressure on the DRC and the bad actors to clean up their act. It is bringing to light the endemic corruption and the illegal tactics of the many players and countries involved

This in turn assists AVZ and the board to continue to fight for the "right" and legally correct outcomes to be achieved though the application of DRC law, International law and the DRC mining code

I think he's done a hell of a job assembling information, highlighting the truth behind blatant lies and countering the massive co-ordinated program of mis-information that has been orchestrated to undermine AVZ and steal Manono from under shareholders and the good people of the DRC's collective feet

What have you done?

 

[cruiser51]

One vowel away to be precise...

It you say it fast it sounds the same

Soooo Peter huge lip is chairman of anl.

 

[Xerof]

Mate. I've loved your work for a very long time. Your enthusiasm is catching. Kudos Sir.

But..... WTF have you done/are doing to help AVZ?

Really!

The BOD can't help us. FFS!!!!!

 

[Stockinvesting]

MB is shining a massive light on the corruption and bad actors involved in the terrible situation AVZ is currently facing

Getting the word out to social media, forums, participants in DRC mining Conferences many many different parties as to the issues inherent in the corrupt DRC mining system

This is putting pressure on the DRC and the bad actors to clean up their act. It is bringing to light the endemic corruption and the illegal tactics of the many players and countries involved

This in turn assists AVZ and the board to continue to fight for the "right" and legally correct outcomes to be achieved though the application of DRC law, International law and the DRC mining code

I think he's done a hell of a job assembling information, highlighting the truth behind blatant lies and countering the massive co-ordinated program of mis-information that has been orchestrated to undermine AVZ and steal Manono from under shareholders and the good people of the DRC's collective feet

What have you done?

Firstly, I'm a fan of yours Winenut. I'm not posting to make enemies.

BUT. What you have just stated, is crap. None of the above has expedited any processes/assisted AVZ in any way.

As far as your question, "What have I done?"

Same as you.

 

[Doc]

Firstly, I'm a fan of yours Winenut. I'm not posting to make enemies.

BUT. What you have just stated, is crap. None of the above has expedited any processes/assisted AVZ in any way.

As far as your question, "What have I done?"

Same as you.

I love the suck up in your first sentences then the big fuck you backhanders

Boy oh boy next two months should be entertaining

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Mate. I've loved your work for a very long time. Your enthusiasm is catching. Kudos Sir.

But..... WTF have you done/are doing to help AVZ?

Really!

The BOD can't help us. FFS!!!!!

Hahahahaha…. You’ve loved my work Mate you have never given me a single like.

I have read your posts, just opinions, not one with any research behind it and most either negative sentiment or asking for someone else to provide you with information.

If you seriously think all the information gathered on these threads as well as information that is shared in private hasn’t put pressure on the corrupt entities behind the scenes and helped the company then I suggest you change your profile name to something that suggests you don’t know much about stock investing

If you seriously wanted information you would have started by providing some yourself and earning people’s trust

If you’re fishing to find out if I really know who is behind these nominees, you’re using the wrong bait and if you want to vote for the corrupt clowns you’d be better addressing them than me

 

[Lucas Don Velor]

Apart from Germany stockpiling oil and gas China is doing the same, it even gets some of its cheap oil from the U.S.

Germany has had to create alternate energy (gas) supply partners... not too long ago, they were overly-dependent on Russia for supplies (Nord stream 1), however have now partnered with Norway, Belgium and Netherlands... Germany has always stockpiled gas!