AVZ Discussion 2022

[Samus]

Cruiser I appreciated that info, as well as (@BEISHA info) on the DRC elections. wish I’d saved all the information I had on the elections being rigged earlier this year but there was too much other info to collect at the time. I do vaguely remember $3million changing hands to have officials at voting stations changed and Sama Lukonde being involved.

I notice Lukonde has been keeping a low profile lately but I’m too interested in other things to follow up on what sneaky business he is up to, although I suspect he’s up to no good…. Possibly with Adele Kayinda and Guy Loando.

LOCKY82, a few here know who ‘the ghost’ (der geist) is, and he has gone out of his way to make sure his name can’t be put on the forum (isn’t that right shane)

The main thing I remember about him is he used to get Cong’s sandwiches for him and no doubt still has his number. His biggest downfall might be that with all his narcissistic and egocentric personalities he ends up completely losing sight of reality

In other words he's an narcissistic wierdo wanker of epic proportions. I don't even know how he lives with himself, he must irritate the fuck out of himself all day long every fucking day, 365 days a year.
Reading the fucking nonsensical dribble that he posts makes me want to gouge my own eyes out at this point. I've had the troll fuckwit on ignore for a long time now and any self respecting AVZ shareholder should do the same imo.
Life is way too short to put up with anybody like that. Absolute conniving, untrustworthy filth with some sort of bogey man fucked up agenda that's implemented in a demented insidious language designed to do any sane persons head in.
Fucking insufferable. Fuck off!

This fucking shit is fucked up enough already without the cacophony of the fucking trolls, fuckwits and wankers lurking everywhere, spewing verbal diarrhoea out of their puckerd arse mouths and fucking shit for brains.

Imo at this point bring on ICSID, ICC. Teach the fucking criminals a lesson in moral fortitude they'll never forget.
No more pussy footing around, let's tear them all a new ass hole and then bend them over and tear them another one.

And on that note I'm having a break until we get our next ruling, verdict or otherwise news of progress.

 

[The Fox]

Or you could look at the 2018 Annual Report and see who held a lot of options they bought cheap, then sold too early and have been crying about it ever since

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Poor Shane didn't have the coin to exercise his options, lost his inheritance on an ASX "sure thing" now lives on baked beans. Hew will never recover, will you Shane.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

In other words he's an narcissistic wierdo wanker of epic proportions. I don't even know how he lives with himself, he must irritate the fuck out of himself all day long every fucking day, 365 days a year.
Reading the fucking nonsensical dribble that he posts makes me want to gouge my own eyes out at this point. I've had the troll fuckwit on ignore for a long time now and any self respecting AVZ shareholder should do the same imo.
Life is way too short to put up with anybody like that. Absolute conniving, untrustworthy filth with some sort of bogey man fucked up agenda that's implemented in a demented insidious language designed to do any sane persons head in.
Fucking insufferable. Fuck off!

This fucking shit is fucked up enough already without the cacophony of the fucking trolls, fuckwits and wankers lurking everywhere, spewing verbal diarrhoea out of their puckerd arse mouths and fucking shit for brains.

Imo at this point bring on ICSID, ICC. Teach the fucking criminals a lesson in moral fortitude they'll never forget.
No more pussy footing around, let's tear them all a new ass hole and then bend them over and tear them another one.

And on that note I'm having a break until we get our next ruling, verdict or otherwise news of progress.

Well as I am the original holder, and Winenuts and TITS haven’t contributed towards promoting and upholding the esteemed honour of the Mantle for some time, I award this to you Sam

 

[Pokok]

Well as I am the original holder, and Winenuts and TITS haven’t contributed towards promoting and upholding the esteemed honour of the Mantle for some time, I award this to you Sam

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Fuck yes , he should have his fucken mouth washed out with fucken soap for using the work fuck

 

[Samus]

Just one last thing



#RDC The anger of the population in the face of an incompetent leader.

 

[wombat74]

Just one last thing



#RDC The anger of the population in the face of an incompetent leader.

Wouldn't matter who their President was . They are all corrupt and owned by China .

There are 195 countries in the world​

Here are the winners for the Top 10 Poorest Countries in the World for 2023. Drum Roll Please.​

Rank​	Country/Territory​	​
10	Liberia	​
9	Chad	​
8	Malawi	​
7	Niger	​
6	Mozambique	​
5	Democratic Republic of the Congo	​
4	Somalia	​
3	Central Afrian Republic	​
2	Burundi	​
1	South Sudan	​

Yes that's right ladies and gentlemen ,the DRC is more f--ked than Ethiopia , PNG or even Haiti . That is despite having over US$24 trillion worth mineral wealth .

​

 

[BEISHA]

In other words he's an narcissistic wierdo wanker of epic proportions. I don't even know how he lives with himself, he must irritate the fuck out of himself all day long every fucking day, 365 days a year.
Reading the fucking nonsensical dribble that he posts makes me want to gouge my own eyes out at this point. I've had the troll fuckwit on ignore for a long time now and any self respecting AVZ shareholder should do the same imo.
Life is way too short to put up with anybody like that. Absolute conniving, untrustworthy filth with some sort of bogey man fucked up agenda that's implemented in a demented insidious language designed to do any sane persons head in.
Fucking insufferable. Fuck off!

This fucking shit is fucked up enough already without the cacophony of the fucking trolls, fuckwits and wankers lurking everywhere, spewing verbal diarrhoea out of their puckerd arse mouths and fucking shit for brains.

Imo at this point bring on ICSID, ICC. Teach the fucking criminals a lesson in moral fortitude they'll never forget.
No more pussy footing around, let's tear them all a new ass hole and then bend them over and tear them another one.

And on that note I'm having a break until we get our next ruling, verdict or otherwise news of progress.

 

[SilentOne]

Case Details | ICSID

icsid.worldbank.org

Provisional Measures - ICSID Convention Arbitration (2022 Rules)​

Except as the parties otherwise agree, the Tribunal may recommend any provisional measures necessary to preserve the parties’ rights (Article 47 of the ICSID Convention, Arbitration Rule 47).
For example, a party may request provisional measures to:

• prevent action that is likely to cause current or imminent harm to that party or prejudice to the arbitral process (e.g., preventing prejudicial interference by one party)
• maintain or restore the status quo (e.g., staying parallel domestic or arbitral proceedings, or staying the execution of administrative decisions)
• preserve evidence that is relevant to the resolution of the dispute.

Provisional measures may be sought at any time during the proceeding. The party requesting provisional measures must specify the rights to be preserved, the measures requested, and the circumstances that require such measures (Arbitration Rule 47(2)(a)). The Tribunal determines the briefing schedule in consultation with the parties, unless the request is made before the constitution of the Tribunal, in which case the Secretary-General of ICSID fixes the time limits for written submissions (Arbitration Rule 47(2)(c)).
The Tribunal may hold a hearing but is not required to, and it must issue its decision within 30 days after its constitution (if all submissions have been previously filed) or after the last submission on the request (if that submission is filed after Tribunal constitution).

The Tribunal must consider all relevant circumstances when deciding whether to recommend a provisional measures. In particular, the Tribunal must consider whether the measures are necessary and urgent, and the effect that they may have on each party (Arbitration Rule 47(3)).

Parties must disclose any material change in the circumstances upon which the provisional measures were recommended (Arbitration Rule 47(5)).

The Tribunal may recommend, modify or revoke provisional measures on its own initiative or at the request of a party after giving each party an opportunity to present its observations (Arbitration Rule 47(6)).

A party can request provisional measures from a judicial or other authority provided that it is authorized to do so under the instrument of consent.

Requests for Security for Costs are addressed pursuant to Arbitration Rule 53.

 

[BEISHA]

Actualité | Campagne électorale 2023 : après une petite semaine de campagne, le pouvoir se lézarde | mediacongo.net

Arrivé au pouvoir au terme d’un accord avec son prédécesseur Joseph Kabila, le président congolais Félix Tshisekedi entend prolonger son...

www.mediacongo.net

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No guarantee that FT will win the up coming election on December 20..........going by this aricle.

For all the reasons i have articulated in the past...

Will there actually be a election ?

Some commentary about lack of transparency, faulty electoral register, defective voter cards, untraceable mapping of polling stations, suggests..........maybe not.

Why am i not surprised ?

 

[Winenut]

Constant shitfuckery

Totally over it

Partly I invested because Felix was in the picture

Now trying to dis-invest because Felix is in the picture

Has not done one thing I've seen supporting a mandate to deal with corruption

Total opposite

Weak as piss and is just about speaking Mandarin from my observation

I really feel for the people of the DRC

So let down by their leaders

Fuck me

 

[BEISHA]

Constant shitfuckery

Totally over it

Partly I invested because Felix was in the picture

Now trying to dis-invest because Felix is in the picture

Has not done one thing I've seen supporting a mandate to deal with corruption

Total opposite

Weak as piss and is just about speaking Mandarin from my observation

I really feel for the people of the DRC

So let down by their leaders

Fuck me

Yep, when were all over the road at the crapper , folks were preying for a FT win in 2019 as we were concerned for AVZ fortunes if kabila remained in power .

FT .........the white knight to sabre corruption !!

Come 2023, nothing has changed..........in fact, its worse.

I wonder if situations would of been better if Martin Fayulu ( who was convinced he won the popular vote and that the 2019 election was rigged) would have fared a bit better........

DRC: Opponent Fayulu confirms presidential candidacy | Africanews

Political opponent Martin Fayulu, who has been keeping suspense alive for the past few weeks, has confirmed his candidacy for the presidential election in the Democratic Republic of Congo in a statement to the press.

www.africanews.com

He will be FT major opponent in 2023 election..........once again.

I wonder if AVZ BOD had some private convos with him regards to the fortunes of Manono.......

Nigel did confirm to me that they had some converversations with FT opponents post AGM...

imo

 

[Dazmac66]

Just reading up on the latest announcement from the Yanks in regard IRA. When this is sorted will AVZ have less than 25% Chinese ownership with CATH having 24% plus other large Chinese holders. From what I am reading 25% is the cutoff for selling in to the US ev/renewables supply chain.

 

[marksmann007]

Just reading up on the latest announcement from the Yanks in regard IRA. When this is sorted will AVZ have less than 25% Chinese ownership with CATH having 24% plus other large Chinese holders. From what I am reading 25% is the cutoff for selling in to the US ev/renewables supply chain.

Under the guidelines, any company that is subject to the jurisdiction of China’s government, or is controlled by the government — including if it is at least 25% owned by a Chinese government authority — would be considered an FEOC. The restrictions would also apply to all production inside of China. However, foreign subsidiaries of privately-owned Chinese companies in non-FEOC countries, like Australia or Indonesia, would be allowed so long as they are not controlled by the Chinese government.

The new rules seem to bless licensing deals like Ford’s battery plant in Marshall, Michigan, which is owned and operated by the automaker, but licenses technology from China’s battery champion, Contemporary Amperex Technology Ltd., also known as CATL. Tesla Inc. looked into a similar structure with CATL earlier this year, Bloomberg has reported, though the status of those talks is unclear.

 

[Mute22]

Real quiet around here post AGM...

 

[CHB]

Real quiet around here post AGM...

Just gotta wait for court cases.. either that or the next hurdle zijin throws at us

Seems to be the norm

 

[Mute22]

Just gotta wait for court cases.. either that or the next hurdle zijin throws at us

Seems to be the norm

Does anybody have the court cases timeline available, there was an amazing post but I didn't save it.

 

[BEISHA]

Real quiet around here post AGM...

Not alot to post about really, its all about DRC elections and waiting for arbitration deliberations....

Speaking of DRC elections, just having a look at another one of FT political opponents.

Denis Mukwege Vows to Heal and Restore Congo | Africanews

Addressing the urgent need for peace in Congo, he highlighted the necessity for employment to meet basic needs, expressing optimism that collaboration with supportive lawmakers could address issues such as corruption and legal insecurity.

www.africanews.com

Denis Mukwege has all the pedigree and positive human qualities to uplift the DRC , does he have the right connections / numbers to win the election ?

I dont know, but his bio is impressive and if the locals are smart , then they should give this guy a chance to do what FT should of done , but failed miserably.

Denis Mukwege is a NOBEL PEACE PRIZE winner recipient.

He has my vote ..........in spades!!

Denis Mukwege - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

imo

 

[wombat74]

When do we start paying new members of the BoD ? How much are we paying them ? How long will it take for Locke to decide whether they would like to loan us money ? Lets hope they pull their finger out and make a decision ASAP . They have until end of March by which time AVZ $$$ will be running on fumes . What's AVZ's back up plan if Locke don't come up with the coin ? How quickly can we call on penalty dollars accrued by Cominiere ? If things start getting tight will Nigel and crew take a pay cut or work for free ? ICSID forces DRC gov to consider an MoU as a pathway to the ML OR ICSID forces DRC gov to take another approach to stall and delay tactics? How long do AVZ wait before we call BS ? Can China draw out the elections for weeks or months to suit their objectives ?

 

[BEISHA]

When do we start paying new members of the BoD ? How much are we paying them ? How long will it take for Locke to decide whether they would like to loan us money ? Lets hope they pull their finger our and make a decision ASAP . They have until end of March by which time AVZ $$$ will be surviving on fumes . What's AVZ's back up plan if Locke don't come up with the coin ? How quickly can we call on penalty dollars accrued by Cominiere ? If things start getting tight will Nigel and crew take a pay cut or work for free ? ICSID forces DRC gov to consider an MoU as a pathway to the ML OR ICSID forces DRC gov to take another approach to stall and delay tactics? How long do AVZ wait before we call BS ? Can China draw out the elections for weeks or months to suit their objectives ?

 

[Xerof]

Real quiet around here post AGM...

Perhaps we are?