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[Fact Finder]

Hi All
I am loath to bother stating the obvious because it will be attacked and lies will be spread far and wide for reasons that others need to judge but what the heck:

Fact 1: Mercedes Benz with a $72 billion market cap in a magazine article is reported as saying at CES 2022 that it is working with Brainchip trialling AKIDA technology in a concept vehicle not intended for production and makes some positive comments. Before these magazine reports can be verified the share price commences to rise terminating at $2.34 before commencing to fall.

Fact 2: OnSemi, Microchip and Infineon with a combined $122.10 billion market cap undertake joint demonstrations of their respective technologies working with Brainchip AKIDA technology at CES 2023 for a range of mass consumption use cases not concepts and company representatives of each come on publicly released Brainchip podcasts and go on record permanently confirming they are actually partnered for these demonstrations and speak highly of the individual outcomes and the Brainchip share price drops to 16 cents.

My opinion only so DYOR but the logic of the above is difficult to understand.
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[7für7]

Hi All
I am loath to bother stating the obvious because it will be attacked and lies will be spread far and wide for reasons that others need to judge but what the heck:

Fact 1: Mercedes Benz with a $72 billion market cap in a magazine article is reported as saying at CES 2022 that it is working with Brainchip trialling AKIDA technology in a concept vehicle not intended for production and makes some positive comments. Before these magazine reports can be verified the share price commences to rise terminating at $2.34 before commencing to fall.

Fact 2: OnSemi, Microchip and Infineon with a combined $122.10 billion market cap undertake joint demonstrations of their respective technologies working with Brainchip AKIDA technology at CES 2023 for a range of mass consumption use cases not concepts and company representatives of each come on publicly released Brainchip podcasts and go on record permanently confirming they are actually partnered for these demonstrations and speak highly of the individual outcomes and the Brainchip share price drops to 16 cents.

My opinion only so DYOR but the logic of the above is difficult to understand.
Fact Finder

Exactly what I tell the people in the German forum. But I guess this is the power of the brand. It’s like buying the brand chocolate in the expensive supermarket and saying it’s delicious, while you can have the same chocolate in a cheaper supermarket with a different branding and saying it tastes a bit strange…

 

[Bravo]

This is not new news, but it's important to bear in mind because now we're besties with Infineon, it's going to make us more attractive to these other big cahoonas. And, because RISC-V is essentially competing with Arm, that should see BrainChip being the go to partner in the swingers club where extremely low power, performance-per-watt is required for products IMO.

Oh yeah, and Farshad from Infineon on the recent podcast was super impressed with BrainChip which is pretty cool when you think how familiar Infineon must be with Qualcomm. Really says something don't you think?

 

[Tothemoon24]

The Brainchip Akida Neuromorphic System-on-Chip, which is a low-power and scalable chip that can integrate multiple DVS and DAS sensors and perform event-based learning and inference.

Dynamic Vision Sensor (DVS) and the Dynamic Audio Sensor (DAS)

Have you ever wondered how the human eye👁️ and ear👂 can process complex and dynamic scenes with such high speed and accuracy? Imagine if we could design artificial sensors that mimic the biological mechanisms of vision and hearing, and produce data that is more efficient and meaningful than conven

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[David holland]

Exactly what I tell the people in the German forum. But I guess this is the power of the brand. It’s like buying the brand chocolate in the expensive supermarket and saying it’s delicious, while you can have the same chocolate in a cheaper supermarket with a different branding and saying it tastes a bit strange…

As stated before I think at the AGM ,
Watch the Financials

 

[Bravo]

OK, well that's probably it from me today, otherwise I'll develop RSI in my two index fingers.

 

[Kachoo]

Exactly what I tell the people in the German forum. But I guess this is the power of the brand. It’s like buying the brand chocolate in the expensive supermarket and saying it’s delicious, while you can have the same chocolate in a cheaper supermarket with a different branding and saying it tastes a bit strange…

This information needs to be absorbed by all who are complaining.

The 3 companies mentioned will have a much larger impact to BRN revenue then MB would but its about the Branding.

The SP action well there is no action happening its dead just being played with buy institutions and brokers. With no interest its pretty easy to see how the price got to where it is.

What is more frustrating in my view is the SP is measuring past performance instead of future performance. ATM.

The constant slide was achieved by driving away speculation investment Management have not been helpful in some of there action either to attract people.

The technologyband company from many many individuals in the industry speak highly of the SP.

The connections with Microchip, Infineon and Onsemi are more advertised then the one MB tweet that went out and people still dwelling on MB. Come on MB when and if they incorporate Akida will generate revenue till then they is no talk of anything from them. What we know is they are still partners and working away.

 

[Fact Finder]

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The Brainchip Akida Neuromorphic System-on-Chip, which is a low-power and scalable chip that can integrate multiple DVS and DAS sensors and perform event-based learning and inference.

Dynamic Vision Sensor (DVS) and the Dynamic Audio Sensor (DAS)

Have you ever wondered how the human eye👁️ and ear👂 can process complex and dynamic scenes with such high speed and accuracy? Imagine if we could design artificial sensors that mimic the biological mechanisms of vision and hearing, and produce data that is more efficient and meaningful than conven

www.linkedin.com

This is a link that should be opened and the full article read.
My opinion only DYOR
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[IloveLamp]

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The Brainchip Akida Neuromorphic System-on-Chip, which is a low-power and scalable chip that can integrate multiple DVS and DAS sensors and perform event-based learning and inference.

Dynamic Vision Sensor (DVS) and the Dynamic Audio Sensor (DAS)

Have you ever wondered how the human eye👁️ and ear👂 can process complex and dynamic scenes with such high speed and accuracy? Imagine if we could design artificial sensors that mimic the biological mechanisms of vision and hearing, and produce data that is more efficient and meaningful than conven

www.linkedin.com

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[Rach2512]

This is a link that should be opened and the full article read.
My opinion only DYOR
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Dynamic Vision Sensor (DVS) and the Dynamic Audio Sensor (DAS)

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Have you ever wondered how the human eye and ear can process complex and dynamic scenes with such high speed and accuracy? Imagine if we could design artificial sensors that mimic the biological mechanisms of vision and hearing, and produce data that is more efficient and meaningful than conventional sensors.


In this post, I will introduce you to two types of neuromorphic sensors: the Dynamic Vision Sensor (DVS) and the Dynamic Audio Sensor (DAS).


These sensors are inspired by the structure and function of the retina and the cochlea, respectively, and use a novel paradigm of event-based sensing. Unlike conventional sensors that capture frames or samples at a fixed rate, event-based sensors only output data when there is a change in the input signal, such as brightness or sound intensity. This results in a stream of asynchronous events that encode the temporal and spatial information of the scene, with high temporal resolution, low latency, and high dynamic range.


- "In simpler terms, these special sensors work like our eyes and ears. They're designed based on the way our eyes' retinas and ears' cochleae function. But what sets them apart is their unique approach called event-based sensing. Unlike regular sensors that take pictures or recordings at a set speed, these event-based sensors only provide information when there's a change. Whether it's a shift in light or a change in sound, they only capture those moments. Instead of a constant flow of data, you get quick updates that show when and where things change. This gives you highly detailed and fast information about what's happening, with minimal delay and a wide range of details. It's like having sensors that focus on the important stuff, making them efficient and responsive."


The DVS is an imaging sensor that responds to local changes in brightness, and outputs events that indicate the pixel address, the polarity (increase or decrease) of the brightness change, and the timestamp. The DVS can achieve a temporal resolution of microseconds, a dynamic range of 120 dB, and a low power consumption of 30 mW. The DVS can also avoid motion blur and under/overexposure that plague conventional cameras. The DVS can be used for applications such as optical flow estimation, object tracking, gesture recognition, and robotics.


The DAS is an auditory sensor that mimics the cochlea, the auditory inner ear. The DAS takes stereo audio inputs and outputs events that represent the activity in different frequency ranges. The DAS can capture sound signals with a frequency range of 20 Hz to 20 kHz, a dynamic range of 60 dB, and a temporal resolution of microseconds. The DAS can also extract auditory features such as interaural time difference, harmonicity, and speaker identification.


Both the DVS and the DAS are compatible with neuromorphic computing architectures, such as spiking neural networks, that can process the event data in a parallel and distributed manner. This enables low-power and real-time computation of complex tasks such as scene understanding, speech recognition, and sound localization.


Some examples of recent products that use the DVS and the DAS are:


- The Prophesee Metavision Camera, which is a high-resolution DVS camera that can capture fast and complex motions with minimal data and power consumption.

 

[DerAktienDude]

Hi All
I am loath to bother stating the obvious because it will be attacked and lies will be spread far and wide for reasons that others need to judge but what the heck:

Fact 1: Mercedes Benz with a $72 billion market cap in a magazine article is reported as saying at CES 2022 that it is working with Brainchip trialling AKIDA technology in a concept vehicle not intended for production and makes some positive comments. Before these magazine reports can be verified the share price commences to rise terminating at $2.34 before commencing to fall.

Fact 2: OnSemi, Microchip and Infineon with a combined $122.10 billion market cap undertake joint demonstrations of their respective technologies working with Brainchip AKIDA technology at CES 2023 for a range of mass consumption use cases not concepts and company representatives of each come on publicly released Brainchip podcasts and go on record permanently confirming they are actually partnered for these demonstrations and speak highly of the individual outcomes and the Brainchip share price drops to 16 cents.

My opinion only so DYOR but the logic of the above is difficult to understand.
Fact Finder

It’s certainly a big step up but the expectations were very different back then.
Mercedes was the first prestigious company that actually used the chip for something and told the masses about it on the big stage to announce their concept car. Back then revenue was so far away and this announcement caught everyone of us off guard. Today, due to the statements made by the management our expectations are lots of ip licenses along with revenue growth. So these demos and confirmations are certainly nice to have but they really don’t matter a lot for the vast majority of the investors. The share price acknowledges what we expect and it’s not what we’re getting right now.
I’m positive nevertheless and these demos show that it’s just a matter of time.

 

[Rach2512]

Dynamic Vision Sensor (DVS) and the Dynamic Audio Sensor (DAS)

Published on Jan 16, 2024

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Kailash PrasadDesign Engineer @ Arm | PMRF | IIRF | nanoDC Lab…

Published Jan 16, 2024

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Have you ever wondered how the human eye and ear can process complex and dynamic scenes with such high speed and accuracy? Imagine if we could design artificial sensors that mimic the biological mechanisms of vision and hearing, and produce data that is more efficient and meaningful than conventional sensors.


In this post, I will introduce you to two types of neuromorphic sensors: the Dynamic Vision Sensor (DVS) and the Dynamic Audio Sensor (DAS).


These sensors are inspired by the structure and function of the retina and the cochlea, respectively, and use a novel paradigm of event-based sensing. Unlike conventional sensors that capture frames or samples at a fixed rate, event-based sensors only output data when there is a change in the input signal, such as brightness or sound intensity. This results in a stream of asynchronous events that encode the temporal and spatial information of the scene, with high temporal resolution, low latency, and high dynamic range.


- "In simpler terms, these special sensors work like our eyes and ears. They're designed based on the way our eyes' retinas and ears' cochleae function. But what sets them apart is their unique approach called event-based sensing. Unlike regular sensors that take pictures or recordings at a set speed, these event-based sensors only provide information when there's a change. Whether it's a shift in light or a change in sound, they only capture those moments. Instead of a constant flow of data, you get quick updates that show when and where things change. This gives you highly detailed and fast information about what's happening, with minimal delay and a wide range of details. It's like having sensors that focus on the important stuff, making them efficient and responsive."


The DVS is an imaging sensor that responds to local changes in brightness, and outputs events that indicate the pixel address, the polarity (increase or decrease) of the brightness change, and the timestamp. The DVS can achieve a temporal resolution of microseconds, a dynamic range of 120 dB, and a low power consumption of 30 mW. The DVS can also avoid motion blur and under/overexposure that plague conventional cameras. The DVS can be used for applications such as optical flow estimation, object tracking, gesture recognition, and robotics.


The DAS is an auditory sensor that mimics the cochlea, the auditory inner ear. The DAS takes stereo audio inputs and outputs events that represent the activity in different frequency ranges. The DAS can capture sound signals with a frequency range of 20 Hz to 20 kHz, a dynamic range of 60 dB, and a temporal resolution of microseconds. The DAS can also extract auditory features such as interaural time difference, harmonicity, and speaker identification.


Both the DVS and the DAS are compatible with neuromorphic computing architectures, such as spiking neural networks, that can process the event data in a parallel and distributed manner. This enables low-power and real-time computation of complex tasks such as scene understanding, speech recognition, and sound localization.


Some examples of recent products that use the DVS and the DAS are:


- The Prophesee Metavision Camera, which is a high-resolution DVS camera that can capture fast and complex motions with minimal data and power consumption.

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You beat me to it IloveLamp, great read thanks Tothemoon24

 

[CHIPS]

I only hope they weren't put off by all the childish spamming and idiotic, relentless questions about brainchip on social media etc... I really do hope thats not the case. Im worried we have infact become a meme stock... Just sit back and let management do their thing. Ive said it from the start...
Edit: This is not directed at you Bravo. Love your work. Mainly a certain" verification engineer"...all over the network.

Oh yes, they might say "We better not use Akida, because its fan club is too annoying. They might even buy our cars later on."

 

[Fact Finder]

It’s certainly a big step up but the expectations were very different back then.
Mercedes was the first prestigious company that actually used the chip for something and told the masses about it on the big stage to announce their concept car. Back then revenue was so far away and this announcement caught everyone of us off guard. Today, due to the statements made by the management our expectations are lots of ip licenses along with revenue growth. So these demos and confirmations are certainly nice to have but they really don’t matter a lot for the vast majority of the investors. The share price acknowledges what we expect and it’s not what we’re getting right now.
I’m positive nevertheless and these demos show that it’s just a matter of time.

Yes accept all of your reasoning but what logic saw investors find a reason to sell off and drop the price to 16 cents?

What was the bad news that caused the loss of confidence?

Your thinking and mine align except that I am not asking why the price did not explode and go to $2.34 and beyond but why the engagement with these three companies is considered a negative.

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By the way Kailash PrasadDesign Engineer @ Arm in the following confirms the statements by the representative of Infineon at CES 2024 that what sets AKIDA apart is its capacity to scale and fuse multiple inputs while providing low powered inference:

“The Brainchip Akida Neuromorphic System-on-Chip, which is a low-power and scalable chip that can integrate multiple DVS and DAS sensors and perform event-based learning and inference”

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

 

[wilzy123]

OK, so I said " I'm VERY disappointed that the share price has gone nowhere after the C.E.S., to which Wiltzy said "Where was it supposed to go? LOL. Perhaps I am the naive one, and you will enlighten me as to where it should have gone and why."

Fullmoonfever has clarified and I believe he's correct i.e. CES is a trade show & that's where I was wrong Wiltzy.

NOW, trying to be constructive, I still believe there was an opportunity missed at the CES.
I suggest that at future shows like the CES, we could have the best of both worlds.

Have a person or persons demoing, and another discussing investing in us. Have the booth clearly set up between the two and I reckon some visitors would see the demo, go off, thinking, then, realising the potential, and having subliminally noticed the investing idea, would come back for info. We could also be a bit naughty by employing a crowd enthusiastically jostling and calling out "how can I invest".

"Have a person or persons demoing, and another discussing investing in us. Have the booth clearly set up between the two and I reckon some visitors would see the demo, go off, thinking, then, realising the potential, and having subliminally noticed the investing idea, would come back for info. We could also be a bit naughty by employing a crowd enthusiastically jostling and calling out "how can I invest""

You are still not getting it LMAO

 

[DerAktienDude]

Yes accept all of your reasoning but what logic saw investors find a reason to sell off and drop the price to 16 cents?

What was the bad news that caused the loss of confidence?

Your thinking and mine align except that I am not asking why the price did not explode and go to $2.34 and beyond but why the engagement with these three companies is considered a negative.

****************

By the way Kailash PrasadDesign Engineer @ Arm in the following confirms the statements by the representative of Infineon at CES 2024 that what sets AKIDA apart is its capacity to scale and fuse multiple inputs while providing low powered inference:

“The Brainchip Akida Neuromorphic System-on-Chip, which is a low-power and scalable chip that can integrate multiple DVS and DAS sensors and perform event-based learning and inference”

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

I guess most investors expect big announcements during these trade shows but honestly I cannot explain it.
The ones like you me and a lot of other in this forum know that this won’t happen and share their frustrations but still know that it’s not if but when when it comes to commercial success.
Greetings from Germany

 

[Diogenese]

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So while CES 24 was saying "Look over here!" the real action was going on at the VLSI Design Conference.

 

[Fullmoonfever]

Yes accept all of your reasoning but what logic saw investors find a reason to sell off and drop the price to 16 cents?

What was the bad news that caused the loss of confidence?

Your thinking and mine align except that I am not asking why the price did not explode and go to $2.34 and beyond but why the engagement with these three companies is considered a negative.

****************

By the way Kailash PrasadDesign Engineer @ Arm in the following confirms the statements by the representative of Infineon at CES 2024 that what sets AKIDA apart is its capacity to scale and fuse multiple inputs while providing low powered inference:

“The Brainchip Akida Neuromorphic System-on-Chip, which is a low-power and scalable chip that can integrate multiple DVS and DAS sensors and perform event-based learning and inference”

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

For mine, the mkt isn't logical...well...when it comes to retail anyway

SM, Funds, Instos etc have no emotional attachment. It's a numbers and profit game for them.

The run to the ATH was driven by Merc (pun intended) as we know and the promise of more at the time hence the FOMO.

I agree there was no bad news or anything negative with the 3 engagements, merely the unfilled "promise" of a follow up formal Ann or agreement.

That is not by design of BRN or the other companies. Merely, the engagements, tech etc were at early stages imv.

The formal side just hasn't happened....yet.

So those looking for the quick flip, short term follow through or even longer term confirmation of something formal, move on, hence the drift down as the demand isn't outstripping supply.

They will be back when there is something more formal to their liking, whether it's an Ann or revenue or both.

With that though comes the volatility.

 

[AusEire]

OK, so I said " I'm VERY disappointed that the share price has gone nowhere after the C.E.S., to which Wiltzy said "Where was it supposed to go? LOL. Perhaps I am the naive one, and you will enlighten me as to where it should have gone and why."

Fullmoonfever has clarified and I believe he's correct i.e. CES is a trade show & that's where I was wrong Wiltzy.

NOW, trying to be constructive, I still believe there was an opportunity missed at the CES.
I suggest that at future shows like the CES, we could have the best of both worlds.

Have a person or persons demoing, and another discussing investing in us. Have the booth clearly set up between the two and I reckon some visitors would see the demo, go off, thinking, then, realising the potential, and having subliminally noticed the investing idea, would come back for info. We could also be a bit naughty by employing a crowd enthusiastically jostling and calling out "how can I invest"

CES is not an investors conference.
It's an opportunity to show off the tech to potential customers that haven't already been engaged. It's not an opportunity to pump the shit out of the SP.

So I'm not sure what opportunity was missed?

What were you expecting?

 

[David holland]

Yes accept all of your reasoning but what logic saw investors find a reason to sell off and drop the price to 16 cents?

What was the bad news that caused the loss of confidence?

Your thinking and mine align except that I am not asking why the price did not explode and go to $2.34 and beyond but why the engagement with these three companies is considered a negative.

****************

By the way Kailash PrasadDesign Engineer @ Arm in the following confirms the statements by the representative of Infineon at CES 2024 that what sets AKIDA apart is its capacity to scale and fuse multiple inputs while providing low powered inference:

“The Brainchip Akida Neuromorphic System-on-Chip, which is a low-power and scalable chip that can integrate multiple DVS and DAS sensors and perform event-based learning and inference”

My opinion only DYOR
Fact Finder

Obviously the forum knows your background and the field you worked in Fact Finder and your level of intelligence is high,
The question I'm going to ask may seem silly because I'm not up with it.
Is it possible ARM could take a licence with us ? Or they would just buy our company out instead of a licence and keep the secret sauce for themselves