AVZ Discussion 2022

cruiser51

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Ohh, la, la

Master Christian gets a Guernsey too !

There is much to be found and absolutely worth reading.

My conclusion.....
Cominière and CKK are tolately and royally fukked.

9. The new facts invoked by the Defendant (Cominière) in its letter of October 25 2024

A. The dispute with Maître Christian Lukusa/Cabinet Momentum Attorneys & Advisors

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The Arbitral Tribunal notes that the new documents filed by the Respondent on October 25, 2024, in particular exhibits R-326, R-329 and R-330, and by the The plaintiffs (AVZI) on October 30, 2024, particular exhibits DM-305, DM-306 and DM- 308, show that there is ongoing litigation in the DRC between AVZI and its former lawyer Maître Christian Lukusa in connection with an escrow amount of USD 20 million which he was mandated to hold for AVZI in an escrow account.

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This is not disputed by AVZI, which states that it was forced to terminate Christian Lukusa's representation and file a formal criminal complaint against him for breach of trust, and forgery on September 30, 2024.

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In this context, a press article was published in Iigne on mines.cd on October 20, 2024 entitled "Démenti, droit de réponse et clarifications sur les accusations portées contre Me Christian Lukusa". This article was referred to by the Defendant in its letter of October 25, 2024, but produced by the Plaintiffs as Exhibit DM -308.

918.
In this article, Ple Christian Lukusa alleges, among other things, that AVZI's directors made false declarations in connection with the partial waiver PR 13359 and failed to pass on the "true amounts" in the case of the "Media consultant".

919.
The dispute between AVZI and its former lawyer is pending and has not yet been adjudicated, so that the Arbitral Tribunal cannot take any position on the acts of which the lawyer is accused or on the fate of the escrow funds.

920.
The arbitral tribunal notes that it is AVZI that considers itself to have been the victim an offence, since it has lodged a criminal complaint against its former lawyer, who is alleged to have potentially misappropriated funds.

921.
The Arbitral Tribunal therefore cannot accept the Defendant's position that this state of affairs "raises numerous questions as to AVZ's probity" 414.

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As it stands, the Arbitral Tribunal cannot attach any probative value to the elements reported by AVZI's former lawyer in a press article41' since the latter, who is the subject of criminal complaint for possible misappropriation funds and is in open conflict with AVZI, provides no evidence in support of his accusations. In these circumstances, the comments made by AVZI's former lawyer must be treated with the utmost circumspection.

923.
Moreover, the content of this article is too vague to allow any conclusions to be drawn in relation to the present proceedings.

924.
The article mentions only that "(...) the statements made to the Court by Nigel and John are false in relation to the realities of the partial assignment the PR 13359 License", so it is not possible to determine which statements are involved, what their content is, or whether they refer to the demerger of PR 13359, the relinquishment of part of the scope of PR 13359, or something else.

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BEISHA

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The full transcript is a read and a half.
The delays, the tactics and even the balls to ask the emergency arbitrator to have AVZ pay all legal costs even after we won 🤣 fucking clowns.

Exhaustive read and yes, the delay tactics is beyond the pale.

This is the reason why ICC / ICSID cases take years to conclude no doubt....:rolleyes:

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And not that there was any doubt, Cominiere cant pay.

So how one extracts water out of a stone will be intriguing.
 
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cruiser51

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Exhaustive read and yes, the delay tactics is beyond the pale.

This is the reason why ICC / ICSID cases take years to conclude no doubt....:rolleyes:

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And not that there was any doubt, Cominiere cant pay.

So how one extracts water out of a stone will be intriguing.
I would say you need a proper processing plant..

Cominière and the DRC operates on the basis, the moment the paper bag arrives it gets subdivided into individual overseas accounts.
The money gets moved in leather briefcases and deposited in Swiss accounts, only Christian puts it into the Rawbank.
 
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AVZ is requesting compensation as follows:
  1. General Damages: AVZ and its affiliates (GLH and Dathcom) have requested an amount to be determined for damages resulting from the delays in starting the Manono Project due to Cominière's contractual breaches.
  2. Specific Claims:
    • USD 6.243 billion to compensate for the complete destruction of the value of the Manono Project.
    • USD 2.081 billion to Dathcom for losses related to the same destruction.
    • USD 1.0935 billion for the breach of AVZ's right of first refusal.
    • USD 394,400 for legal costs incurred in protecting their interests in Congolese courts.
  3. Additional Requests:
    • An amount to be determined for reputational damage.
    • Full reimbursement of arbitration costs, attorney fees, and all related expenses.
    • Interest at the French legal rate with anatocism (compound interest) from 15 days after the notification of the award.
I see that list of claims as setting a “takeover price” to anyone sniffing around.
 
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Frank

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Exhaustive read and yes, the delay tactics is beyond the pale.

This is the reason why ICC / ICSID cases take years to conclude no doubt....:rolleyes:

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And not that there was any doubt, Cominiere cant pay.

So how one extracts water out of a stone will be intriguing.
Well Comminiere sure as shit dont have any cash but legally they have still got a 15% share of Dathcom. Through whatever shitfuckery and black magic they created the JV with Shitzin for the North with realigned boundaries and stole our water and camp...including all our cores as well as grabbing the hydro and then issuing themselves a mining licence using the same shitfuckery black magic
I reckon 39 million Euro plus the balance of penalties owed plus reinstating the original boundary and returning the hydro is a fair swap for the 15 % they own. Shitzin can go for their lives in Micaville and we will happily sell to the highest bidder. Celestine can fo f...k himself.
 
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Winenut

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I see that list of claims as setting a “takeover price” to anyone sniffing around.
Yep

When I first saw those numbers my quick mental arithmetic got a nice USD 9 billion number......

or there abouts :cool:
 
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"I spoke to Elon, a nice man. A great American. He agrees that $US 9 billion is a big number. It's a beautiful number. It's going to get bigger"
 
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It looks like Reuters is the leading and most trusted source of news and the Mining Media sourced, then copied and pasted the information from Reuters so Reuters might be the best to try and follow up with.

Specifically the following people who reported and edited the AVZ win👇

Reporting by Aaditya Govind Rao in Bengaluru; Editing by Vijay Kishore

It’s a pity Sonia Rolley (with her 793 thousand followers) wouldn’t help us. I and others on X tried to draw her attention to our project and the corruption but she never replied

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She did to me, just never followed up. Same with the Mining editor at The Wall St journal.
I've emailed the new editor

peter.stiff@wsj.com
 
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Dazmac66

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WTF - Cominiere still posting on Twitter. Are they just bat shit crazy or do the believe some sort of deal has been done giving them immunity(Zijin will pay). Also does the fact that Zijin are still working on the power station in complete contradiction to the ICC rulings indicate they know an agreement is happening? Surely they aren't completely stupid!!
 
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Mute22

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WTF - Cominiere still posting on Twitter. Are they just bat shit crazy or do the believe some sort of deal has been done giving them immunity(Zijin will pay). Also the does the fact that Zijin are still working on the power station in complete contradiction to the ICC rulings indicate they know an agreement is happening? Surely they aren't completely stupid!!
Zijin would be 100% pushing to keep the North for any kind of deal.

Completely unacceptable, they can have it if they buy it with our permission. The courts will reflect this and the bill will keep ramping up.

On Cominerie's part, yes - they are just that dumb and arrogant.
 
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Remark

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WTF - Cominiere still posting on Twitter. Are they just bat shit crazy or do the believe some sort of deal has been done giving them immunity(Zijin will pay). Also the does the fact that Zijin are still working on the power station in complete contradiction to the ICC rulings indicate they know an agreement is happening? Surely they aren't completely stupid!!
Never underestimate Cominiere's stupidity Daz
 
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Zijin would be 100% pushing to keep the North for any kind of deal.

Completely unacceptable, they can have it if they buy it with our permission. The courts will reflect this and the bill will keep ramping up.

On Cominerie's part, yes - they are just that dumb and arrogant.
I imagine Zijin has given them some kind of reassurance. With their lawyers probably saying don't worry, this is all unenforceable, and if anything happens financially we'll sort you out. I cant see how they could be so blase otherwise
 
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I imagine Zijin has given them some kind of reassurance. With their lawyers probably saying don't worry, this is all unenforceable, and if anything happens financially we'll sort you out. I cant see how they could be so blase otherwise
Part of it would be optics, not everybody especially in the Congo is going to be reading ICSID transcripts.

If they comply in anyway they are admitting a) that they have have given up the operation and b) they respect and will follow ICSID rulings.
 
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Frank

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Well Comminiere sure as shit dont have any cash but legally they have still got a 15% share of Dathcom. Through whatever shitfuckery and black magic they created the JV with Shitzin for the North with realigned boundaries and stole our water and camp...including all our cores as well as grabbing the hydro and then issuing themselves a mining licence using the same shitfuckery black magic
I reckon 39 million Euro plus the balance of penalties owed plus reinstating the original boundary and returning the hydro is a fair swap for the 15 % they own. Shitzin can go for their lives in Micaville and we will happily sell to the highest bidder. Celestine can fo f...k himself.

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I imagine Zijin has given them some kind of reassurance. With their lawyers probably saying don't worry, this is all unenforceable, and if anything happens financially we'll sort you out. I cant see how they could be so blase otherwise
Agree . Cominere is a bit player taking instructions from Zijin and is completely immune .The ICC is a toothless tiger . China will pay no attention to it's findings and carry on business as usual . Fines and penalties are just numbers that will never see the light of day . AVZ last and only chance rests with the United States for the southern region . It's 50/50 at best and that's being generous . The current hype in the media could be seen as misleading .
 
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BEISHA

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Agree . Cominere is a bit player taking instructions from Zijin and is completely immune .The ICC is a toothless tiger . China will pay no attention to it's findings and carry on business as usual . Fines and penalties are just numbers that will never see the light of day . AVZ last and only chance rests with the United States for the southern region . It's 50/50 at best and that's being generous . The current hype in the media could be seen as misleading .
is that you Shane ?
 
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