AVZ Discussion 2022

Charbella

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This part of the below article should be interesting to anyone who attended the roadshows with regards to Nigel's version of events and the twisted narrative of the Minister of Portfolio:

The Office of Her Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of Portfolio, recalls with regard to the dispute between DATHOMIR and AVZ, the following:
Under two share sale contracts entered into in June 2019 and August 2020, AVZ INTERNATIONAL PTY LTD acquired 15% of DATHCOM MINING shares held by DATHOMIR MINING RESOURCES SARLU at the price of
21.0. 000 US. But, towards the end of 2020, a stock market announcement from AVZ revealed an agreement to sell its own 24% shares in DATHCOM MINING SA to the company Cath Energy at a price of US$240,000,000.

This strong disproportion between the two prices led DATHOMIR to request, by its letter of December 31, 2020, the valuation of its 15% of shares to protect itself from the possible risks of injury and even significant tax adjustments.
Given the refusal of AVZ INTERNATIONAL PTY LTD, DATHOMIR terminated the contracts on May 14, 2021.
After termination, AVZ INTERNATIONAL, after payment of a deposit of USD 1.0,000, attempted to pay USD 20,000,000, a sum which was immediately returned to it.
Curiously, by fraud, the CEO of DATHCOM obtained from the Principal Registrar of the Single Window for Business Creation, Lubumbashi Branch, a share certificate and a register of associates of DATHCOM MINING SA dated August 31 and 1 September 2021 according to which AVZ INTERNATIONAL PTY LTD would have become the holder of 75% of the shares of DATHCOM MINING SA, :rolleyes: that is to say the 15% of DATHOMIR MINING included despite the termination of the contracts and the restitution of 20,000,000 US$.
Cited by DATHOMIR MINING RESOURCES SARLU before the TGI/Lubumbashi under RP 14944 for forgery, the CEO of DATHCOM MINING SA, the Principal Registrar of the Single Window for Business Creation and the civilly liable DATHCOM MINING SA were sentenced respectively to 3 years in firm main penal servitude, 1 year suspended SPP and 50,000,000 US dollars for DI on the basis of the judgment of December 24, 2021.
The CEO of DATHCOM MINING SA, the Principal Registrar of the Single Window had appealed against this judgment before the Court of Appeal of Lubumbashi under RPA 7610.
The Court of Appeal of Lubumbashi condemned the CEO of DATHCOM MINING to 3 years of SPP and DATHCOM MING SA to 25,000,000 $US in damages.
In addition, the Commercial Court of Lubumbashi, seized under RAC 2858, ordered the suspension of the payment of the amount of US$20,000,000, and this, while waiting for the ICC, arbitration judge chosen by the parties, to rule on the decision. termination of two aforementioned contracts for the sale of shares between AVZ and DATHOMIR. o_O
For the Ministry of Portfolio representing the interests of the State, the share capital of DATHCOM Mining is distributed as follows:
- AVZ International: 60% instead of 75%
- DATHOMIR MINING Resource SARLU: 15%
- COMINIERE: 25 of which 15% were sold ZI JING and 5% to MMCS
The State shareholder, expects, in accordance with Article 71 of the Mining Code, to obtain the transfer of 10% non-dilutable of the share capital, percentage to be distributed in proportion to the shares of each shareholder, after transformation of the exploration permit (PR13359) into operating license.


Either she's got nfi what's actually going on and AVZ needs to send a representative to get her up to date with the facts.
Or more likely she's corrupt as all get out.
How is Cominiere taken hostage? Cominiere still have their 25% and no one is disputing that except Zijin.

Our 75% in Dathcom have nothing to do Cominiere. Adele Kayinda is clearly not defending the interests of the State, Dathomir Mining is NOT a state portfolio company! Is she confused?
 
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Flight996

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This part of the below article should be interesting to anyone who attended the roadshows with regards to Nigel's version of events and the twisted narrative of the Minister of Portfolio:

The Office of Her Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of Portfolio, recalls with regard to the dispute between DATHOMIR and AVZ, the following:
Under two share sale contracts entered into in June 2019 and August 2020, AVZ INTERNATIONAL PTY LTD acquired 15% of DATHCOM MINING shares held by DATHOMIR MINING RESOURCES SARLU at the price of
21.0. 000 US. But, towards the end of 2020, a stock market announcement from AVZ revealed an agreement to sell its own 24% shares in DATHCOM MINING SA to the company Cath Energy at a price of US$240,000,000.
Hi Sammuel

Re: The Office of Her Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of Portfolio, recalls with regard to the dispute between DATHOMIR and AVZ...

The important word here is recalls.

I am not aware of any documentary evidence to back up Princess voodoo bitchface in a green dress's recollection. Her recollection is a fantasy story just like Donald Trump's big steal mantra (apologies in advance to Trump supporters and Collingwood fans).

Cheers
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Hi Sammuel

Re: The Office of Her Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of Portfolio, recalls with regard to the dispute between DATHOMIR and AVZ...

The important word here is recalls.

I am not aware of any documentary evidence to back up Princess voodoo bitchface in a green dress's recollection. Her recollection is a fantasy story just like Donald Trump's big steal mantra (apologies in advance to Trump supporters and Collingwood fans).

Cheers
F
Not to keen on trumpsters but I can wear it but definitely not Collingwood fans
 
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I don't see why we aren't engaging more in the media - our silence is deafening and may be perceived locally as a admission of culpability. Why are we letting the Chinese set the narrative? Like any politician, FT is responsive to the winds of public sentiment, and were one in DRC to read the news or engage on social media, you would largely think that AVZ is the bad guy! Look at all the politicians online supporting our enemies, and yet nothing from our management or anybody in power supporting our position. Haven't we learned from the Covid experience that we can't allow others to poison the chalice of our local perception? Like they did with FT?
Need to tread carefully and not give the detractors/bad actors anymore ammunition. Focus is to lock away the ML and then we can put the foot to the throat to the detractors
 
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The Fox

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If we can afford to pay the outragous salary of 500k for the boss of a non producing wannabe mining company that has yet to even get a mining licence, I'm sure we can afford to pay a local (probably a pittance) to conduct PR interviews and photos and stories, and a freelance Aussie copywriter to publish to an English speaking audience.
Again, there is so much in terms of positive future stories behind AVZ, other than just the excitement of an up an comming Aussie company.
The green EV future, ethical employment in the DRC, money injection into impoverished nations, you all know the drill.
There is SO much to pump and keep us all excited about.
I think it's a massive oversight that is isn't already happening.
Mate, I think the commercial strategy being undertaken by AVZ to overcome current hurdles in the DRC is a little more important then taking this fight to social media or via positive company announcements (just to keep shareholders a little happier if that is at all possible.) Hint, this is one of the reasons for the road shows, to make some effort at this difficult time to assure larger holders there are reasons for the way things are being managed and in due course playing out for our expected benefit.

There is a strategy for positive info to be timed appropriately IMO. Personally I would only like to see any positive announcements released once AVZ is trading again, not now (if there is any discretion) as such annoucments would be lost like tears in the rain and sucked up and spit out by AVZ adversaries in a moment.

Of course I'm sure any announcements that require disclosure under listing rules are being released etc, yet I think we all know there is a certain amount of discretion available to the company much of the time on such things.

I'd suggest radio silence is the smart move at present no matter how anxious some shareholders are seeking a better social media footprint or announcements to combat attacks by incumbent, corrupt and nefarious players. For what it is worth, sit tight, what you seek will not help or change the game afoot.

Cheers The Fox 🦊

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Mate, I think the commercial strategy being undertaken by AVZ to overcome current hurdles in the DRC is a little more important then taking this fight to social media or via positive company announcements (just to keep shareholders a little happier if that is at all possible.) Hint, this is one of the reasons for the road shows, to make some effort at this difficult time to assure larger holders there are reasons for the way things are being managed and in due course playing out for our expected benefit.

There is a strategy for positive info to be timed appropriately IMO. Personally I would only like to see any positive announcements released once AVZ is trading again, not now (if there is any discretion) as such annoucments would be lost like tears in the rain and sucked up and spit out by AVZ adversaries in a moment.

Of course I'm sure any announcements that require disclosure under listing rules are being released etc, yet I think we all know there is a certain amount of discretion available to the company much of the time on such things.

I'd suggest radio silence is the smart move at present no matter how anxious some shareholders are seeking a better social media footprint or announcements to combat attacks by incumbent, corrupt and nefarious players. For what it is worth, sit tight, what you seek will not help or change the game afoot.

Cheers The Fox 🦊

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Spot on. The likes of Svetlana, Maja and Dominic Furtaro among others on Twitter who tag every politician, NGO, DRC media outlet, and world leader they can, as well as Elon Musk, are definitely not helping the cause.
 
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Thanks Chilla. Great idea. I've applied for membership.
Sounds great- I’ll apply for membership also. Keen to assemble a regular AVZ catchup
 
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Spot on. The likes of Svetlana, Maja and Dominic Furtaro among others on Twitter who tag every politician, NGO, DRC media outlet, and world leader they can, as well as Elon Musk, are definitely not helping the cause.
You have to wonder why people think tagging the likes of Elon Musk in posts will get them anywhere.

Reckon he's taking a break from breakfast before he goes to run his billions of dollars to read a post from some loud mouth in Melbourne that gambled too hard at the ASX casino and couldn't pay for her house?

Imagine how many notifications he has on his Twitter when he wakes up in the morning. I just clear them and don't bother reading them if I have more than 5.
 
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Chilla

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Sounds great- I’ll apply for membership also. Keen to assemble a regular AVZ catchup
Awesome….a few I spoke to on Tuesday sounded keen for a regular catch-up amongst like minds….it could be a bitch session or therapy group or $5 club depending on where we are at on the roller coaster:LOL::LOL::LOL:
 
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JNRB

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Guys do not bother asking/wondering whats being said in this video below it is an absolute shitshow, she is the puppet master and they seem to be following her lead. What a bunch of clowns. Half of it makes no sense tbh. IGNORE. I tried to watch but had to stop... horrible what a farce



I watched a bit of it, hard to follow with bad audio and shitty YouTube autotranslate.

But on the whole, all of what she was saying seemed to come down to "I don't like it" "I feel like this so I've just done whatever"

All very much came across as her just doing what she wanted and trying to make excuses for it, not so much anything to do with actual procedure. That gives me a little confidence it's all bullshit that we'll eventually get sorted out and she's not gonna get her way 'just because'
 
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Awesome….a few I spoke to on Tuesday sounded keen for a regular catch-up amongst like minds….it could be a bitch session or therapy group or $5 club depending on where we are at on the roller coaster:LOL::LOL::LOL:
The Sydney crew are looking forward at $5 to champagne and caviar on a harbour cruise instead of our pre-RS schooners in a sports bar. And hopefully the barmaids on the boat will be better looking too
 
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Chilla

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The Sydney crew are looking forward at $5 to champagne and caviar on a harbour cruise instead of our pre-RS schooners in a sports bar. And hopefully the barmaids on the boat will be better looking too
Haha I will fly up and join you…Sydney is my home town and I get back frequently. The boat sounds good as long as the dude in the corset at the sports bar isn’t the barmaid on the boat :oops::oops:
 
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CashKing

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She has no recollections . She is making this crap up . The brown paper bag full of cash also had instructions on what to say . Nigel clearing says in an interview on youtube we have a very good relationship with MoP . The Chinese have obviously made her an offer too good to refuse . I watched the video . She is talking a load of sh1t and appears to be reading off script towards the end when referring to AVZ .Every now and then raising her voice for effect . It's all made up Bull Shit . In war they are called red flag events . They are making up Bull shit to try and justify the action they want to take .
I’m pretty sure you get off most shit if you just say. “ I cannot recall” 😉

Smacks of she’s on the payroll.

Her face pisses me off also…

Let’s hope it gets sorted ASAP

Tick Tock or until
The next suspension extension 😮

GLTAH
 
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Frank

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Mate, I think the commercial strategy being undertaken by AVZ to overcome current hurdles in the DRC is a little more important then taking this fight to social media or via positive company announcements (just to keep shareholders a little happier if that is at all possible.) Hint, this is one of the reasons for the road shows, to make some effort at this difficult time to assure larger holders there are reasons for the way things are being managed and in due course playing out for our expected benefit.

There is a strategy for positive info to be timed appropriately IMO. Personally I would only like to see any positive announcements released once AVZ is trading again, not now (if there is any discretion) as such announcements would be lost like tears in the rain and sucked up and spit out by AVZ adversaries in a moment.

Of course I'm sure any announcements that require disclosure under listing rules are being released etc, yet I think we all know there is a certain amount of discretion available to the company much of the time on such things.

I'd suggest radio silence is the smart move at present no matter how anxious some shareholders are seeking a better social media footprint or announcements to combat attacks by incumbent, corrupt and nefarious players. For what it is worth, sit tight, what you seek will not help or change the game afoot.

Cheers The Fox 🦊

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Need to tread carefully and not give the detractors/bad actors anymore ammunition.
Focus is to lock away the ML and then we can put the foot to the throat to the detractors


Which is exactly what our Fearless Leader said will happen at the RS the other night if my memory serves me right LK :unsure:
 
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You have to wonder why people think tagging the likes of Elon Musk in posts will get them anywhere.

Reckon he's taking a break from breakfast before he goes to run his billions of dollars to read a post from some loud mouth in Melbourne that gambled too hard at the ASX casino and couldn't pay for her house?

Imagine how many notifications he has on his Twitter when he wakes up in the morning. I just clear them and don't bother reading them if I have more than 5.
Fyi, Was a very Interesting discussion on Q & A tonight re:- Musk / Twitter etc

Cyber Hacks, Musk and Trump

This week on Q+A, how fragile is our democracy?

With cyber-crime on the rise, politicians and their families coming under violent attack and existential threats looming – how can we protect ourselves and the system that has served us for so many years?

Millions of Australians have had their private data stolen by hackers, revealing just how vulnerable big companies are to ransom attacks.

So what more can we do as individuals to protect ourselves?

Has government dropped the ball on cyber security?

Meanwhile, Elon Musk’s Twitter takeover is causing a storm, with mass layoffs and companies pulling their advertising dollars over the Tesla billionaire’s changes.

Is it the end of the road for the social media giant?

What would a world without Twitter look like?

MEDIA – MUSK TWITTER TAKEOVER​

Melissa Keller-Tuberg asked: Elon Musk wants to create an internet where the most privileged people in society can punch down at marginalised groups - queer people, people of colour, women and gender minorities, the Jewish community - without facing any consequences.

In one of his first tweets as owner, he stated: comedy is now legal on Twitter. But the real comedy is that after people started making parody accounts impersonating Elon, he banned them.

What is the panel's position on Elon's policy changes on e-safety and how should Australia respond?


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Food for thought :unsure:

Frank :cool:
 
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TDITD

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Spot on. The likes of Svetlana, Maja and Dominic Furtaro among others on Twitter who tag every politician, NGO, DRC media outlet, and world leader they can, as well as Elon Musk, are definitely not helping the cause.
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We spoke to Nigel about this in Brisbane and he said yes to bugging them on social media, be the squeaky wheel, just as long as your polite.
 
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Need to tread carefully and not give the detractors/bad actors anymore ammunition.
Focus is to lock away the ML and then we can put the foot to the throat to the detractors


Which is exactly what our Fearless Leader said will happen at the RS the other night if my memory serves me right LK :unsure:
Cheers Frank. Not sure if Wombat mentioned it, but we visited the DRC, it was pretty scary and luckily they had crocodile on the menu when we were there, as we would have been in real trouble.

At least we got the whole story 👍

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Cheers Frank. Not sure if Wombat mentioned it, but we visited the DRC, it was pretty scary and luckily they had crocodile on the menu when we were there, as we would have been in real trouble.

At least we got the whole story 👍

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Does Nell know???
 
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