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wilzy123

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We need to stop bashing every one who has a different opinion though.
It's cringy and embarrassing.
Reading between the lines, I don't think Lou is making a point about difference of opinion. And yes, bashing anyone for a difference of opinion would be cringy and embarrassing.
 
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Another neuromorphic company funded by Boeing, claiming all sorts of things.

I was only reading an article on Boeing yesterday and wondering if they were an EAP. This was from 2019.


Physics Today 72, 10, 28 (2019); https://doi.org/10.1063/PT.3.4316



Every hour during an airliner flight, dozens of sensors monitoring thousands of parameters produce around 1.5 terabytes of information. As more sensors are added in next-generation aircraft to detect maintenance issues before they become a problem, the volume of data is expected to increase 10-fold, and more than a petabyte of information could be generated during a 10-hour flight.
Jay Lowell is a Boeing senior technical fellow and one of more than 90 physicists who work at Boeing Research & Technology, the aerospace giant’s central R&D organization. He and his team will have to cope with that growing data avalanche. He believes neuromorphic processors—chips configured like neural networks—can help address the onboard data-processing crunch and flag abnormal situations. “They are exceedingly efficient for machine learning and artificial intelligence applications,” he says.
But running machine learning and artificial intelligence programs with current processor technology would require tens or hundreds of kilowatts of power, compared with the 50 watts typically used by today’s planes to process maintenance data. There will never be enough bandwidth to transfer all that data from a fleet of aircraft to the cloud for processing, Lowell adds, noting that around 10 000 Boeing 737s alone are currently in service.
The data problem is one of the challenges Boeing physicists are working on under the rubric of the company’s initiative on disruptive computing and networks. A second thrust seeks to advance high-performance computing architectures by pairing central processing units with coprocessors such as graphics processing units. GPUs are “exceedingly more efficient” than CPUs at performing a smaller number of specific tasks, Lowell says. Boeing is looking at architectures that use a wider variety of coprocessors than today’s top-performing supercomputers do. Looking further out, Boeing sees a future in quantum sensing and computing to address such problems as optimization in manufacturing.
 
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Dozzaman1977

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We need to stop bashing every one who has a different opinion though.
It's cringy and embarrassing.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as long as they are not bashing the company and management, which was happening at HC.

But genuine concerns shouldn't be discouraged, otherwise it'd be an echo chamber. People literally have their savings on the line, while my motto is don't put more than you can afford to lose, to say that share holders shouldn't voice their opinions isn't something I agree with.

Downrampers need to dealt with, no doubt.
But just because someone says he's concerned about recent market action isn't a solid base to prove he's a downramper. We all go through such stages of psychological roller coaster. Someone who has been investing for 20 years would take it a bit better than someone who started investing 2 years ago.

This is a forum and there'll be different opinions. Ignore function is handy which I recommend to anyone who doesn't want to hear a particular poster's opinion.
Well said
 
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We are required under the option agreement to seek the funding anyway before the end of 2023 if I remember correctly. So its a case of sooner rather than later. And as previously observed, KS has proven adept at timing the calls when it best suits the company........

If the pending chip run is a major supply order rather than a "proof of concept" for a new version, it stands to reason that the client would be required to stump up a sizable deposit, big enough to cover our initial costs of production. And consider this. If we have received an order for a major supply of chips there would certainly be a substantial $ figure attached to it, which would necessitate an ASX release - which we haven't seen. Additionally, if its for large scale production of our commercial product (at this stage only AKIDA 1000) why do we need to go through pre-production processes? To me these things seems to put to rest the idea that the funding is for a major production run.

I think there is a clue about the nature of the chip to be produced in the statement that we will also be releasing a substantial upgrade to our IP at, or near, the same time. All this convinces me its AKIDA 2000 (or whatever its going to be called) they're alluding to in the statement about the option call.

Remember, these are my own thought bubbles, not fact or advice.
Hi @toasty

You could be correct I am just not certain. I should clarify what I mean by major production run I am thinking along the AKD2000 commercial chip production which was in the thousands and probably guessed to be 7,000 chips not ten million or the like.

Tod Vierra raised the AKIDA USB issue again in the lecture to CMU students.

I see no downside in all of this it’s just I cannot get past something has changed.

My opinion only DYOR
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AKIDA BALLISTA
 
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charles2

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Another neuromorphic company funded by Boeing, claiming all sorts of things.

Funding from Boeing I believe is $600k USD. Bit of a head scratcher if you read their rather fanciful website.
Maybe it is just me but I know Boeing could do better. They are looking for small tranches of private funding. Oh well what is $600k.
 
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Hi @toasty

You could be correct I am just not certain. I should clarify what I mean by major production run I am thinking along the AKD2000 commercial chip production which was in the thousands and probably guessed to be 7,000 chips not ten million or the like.

Tod Vierra raised the AKIDA USB issue again in the lecture to CMU students.

I see no downside in all of this it’s just I cannot get past something has changed.

My opinion only DYOR
FF

AKIDA BALLISTA
FF, I still think way back, that it was more like 7,000 waffers produced not 7,000 actual chips. When you now look back at things, I don't think 7,000 chips would have been sufficient enough as an introductory chip for future & potential customers back then.

With all this secrecy going on all around us and NDA's at the present, I am strongly of the view & suspecting that there may be a strong military element at play here with the potential release of Akida 2000 and just even maybe Akida 3000...... !!

I
 
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Diogenese

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Was looking at the Jobs posted on Brainchip's Career page, and maybe there are clues here like the ARM knowledge required.

This position reports to "Director of Digital Design"?

Perhaps it is easy for someone to explain what is going on in each location. I am interested, perhaps others. Sorry if this is common knowledge.

"We have offices in Laguna Hills, California; Toulouse, France; Hyderabad, India; and Perth, Australia."

https://careers.brainchip.com/PortalViewRequirement.do?reqGK=27662722

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"Experience in integrating Verification IPs, and HW/SW co-simulation is a plus"

"Develop verification plan for IP and SoC features"

This job is probably related to the foreshadowed tape-out of a SoC in 2023.
 
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Foxdog

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If Accenture decide that Brainchip is the "go to" for neuromorphic computing, then we will have hit the Gravy Train Motherlode !!
It'll be shrouded in NDA's and we'll never know 😳😂
 
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We need to stop bashing every one who has a different opinion though.
It's cringy and embarrassing.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as long as they are not bashing the company and management, which was happening at HC.

But genuine concerns shouldn't be discouraged, otherwise it'd be an echo chamber. People literally have their savings on the line, while my motto is don't put more than you can afford to lose, to say that share holders shouldn't voice their opinions isn't something I agree with.

Downrampers need to dealt with, no doubt.
But just because someone says he's concerned about recent market action isn't a solid base to prove he's a downramper. We all go through such stages of psychological roller coaster. Someone who has been investing for 20 years would take it a bit better than someone who started investing 2 years ago.

This is a forum and there'll be different opinions. Ignore function is handy which I recommend to anyone who doesn't want to hear a particular poster's opinion.
Yeah agreed, I find people being *shutdown* for being concerned more like ramping than people actually expressing it openly and having a discussion about it
 
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I was only reading an article on Boeing yesterday and wondering if they were an EAP. This was from 2019.


Physics Today 72, 10, 28 (2019); https://doi.org/10.1063/PT.3.4316



Every hour during an airliner flight, dozens of sensors monitoring thousands of parameters produce around 1.5 terabytes of information. As more sensors are added in next-generation aircraft to detect maintenance issues before they become a problem, the volume of data is expected to increase 10-fold, and more than a petabyte of information could be generated during a 10-hour flight.
Jay Lowell is a Boeing senior technical fellow and one of more than 90 physicists who work at Boeing Research & Technology, the aerospace giant’s central R&D organization. He and his team will have to cope with that growing data avalanche. He believes neuromorphic processors—chips configured like neural networks—can help address the onboard data-processing crunch and flag abnormal situations. “They are exceedingly efficient for machine learning and artificial intelligence applications,” he says.
But running machine learning and artificial intelligence programs with current processor technology would require tens or hundreds of kilowatts of power, compared with the 50 watts typically used by today’s planes to process maintenance data. There will never be enough bandwidth to transfer all that data from a fleet of aircraft to the cloud for processing, Lowell adds, noting that around 10 000 Boeing 737s alone are currently in service.
The data problem is one of the challenges Boeing physicists are working on under the rubric of the company’s initiative on disruptive computing and networks. A second thrust seeks to advance high-performance computing architectures by pairing central processing units with coprocessors such as graphics processing units. GPUs are “exceedingly more efficient” than CPUs at performing a smaller number of specific tasks, Lowell says. Boeing is looking at architectures that use a wider variety of coprocessors than today’s top-performing supercomputers do. Looking further out, Boeing sees a future in quantum sensing and computing to address such problems as optimization in manufacturing.


Brainchip were in contact with Boeing (amongst others) back in 2019:


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TechGirl

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Just browsing BrainChip website & came across a new blog from 7th Jan titled "4 Bits Are Enough" but it's password protected & we can't read it. Wonder if it will be about benchmarking? Wonder when it will be available?

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Just browsing BrainChip website & came across a new blog from 7th Jan titled "4 Bits Are Enough" but it's password protected & we can't read it. Wonder if it will be about benchmarking? Wonder when it will be available?

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Try "brainchip123" :D
 
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Just browsing BrainChip website & came across a new blog from 7th Jan titled "4 Bits Are Enough" but it's password protected & we can't read it. Wonder if it will be about benchmarking? Wonder when it will be available?

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Great find.

Regards
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AKIDA BALLISTA
 
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Diogenese

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I know that, but if MERC stayed with the Akida chip rather than using Akida IP, I'm sure BRN would oblige.
I think any mass order for SoC would be referred to MegaChips.
 
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Murphy

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I may have missed it earlier, Diogenese, but what exactly is 'taping-out'?

If you don't have dreams, you can't have dreams come true!
 
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jk6199

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I'm just back from a couple of days in Melbourne and was sitting down trying to work out IP commissions.

Some have posted $1 here and 80 cents there for each unit sold as BRN's profit take. Me thinking, how do we make millions from this?

Sitting in a big shopping complex, I watched people lining up and ordering food from a couple of big multinational takeaway food businesses. Then it clicked a lot more.

Every Mercedes car when I ask, "Hey Mercedes, where's the nearest public toilet" when I get caught short travelling? Multiply this by every Mercedes in the future plus 4 to 5 more vehicle companies?

The use of Nanose where it can identify & point out the secret farter in the elevator. Multiply this by every elevator?

That pesky drone that catches me in my own back yard trying to be discreet wearing my mankini, multiply those drones?

Every Christmas party where for some reason, my front door key can't fit in the lock to let me in? Luckily my smart door bell camera recognises me, and lets me in (unless the better half has programmed it to recognise me less that fit for entry)? Multiply that by every other Christmas party.

The list goes on. It's not always the big ticket items that make the money, but the accumulation of everyday life.

So, to all you out there that occasionally get caught short driving, with bad wind at the least opportune times, dressed in a mankini while walking home drunk from a party, welcome to my life. Not quite the secret sauce we talk about, but sauce anyway! ;)
 
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I may have missed it earlier, Diogenese, but what exactly is 'taping-out'?

If you don't have dreams, you can't have dreams come true!
“Tape-out” = create

“Tapping-out” was never said
 
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Salad1

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We need to stop bashing every one who has a different opinion though.
It's cringy and embarrassing.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as long as they are not bashing the company and management, which was happening at HC.

But genuine concerns shouldn't be discouraged, otherwise it'd be an echo chamber. People literally have their savings on the line, while my motto is don't put more than you can afford to lose, to say that share holders shouldn't voice their opinions isn't something I agree with.

Downrampers need to dealt with, no doubt.
But just because someone says he's concerned about recent market action isn't a solid base to prove he's a downramper. We all go through such stages of psychological roller coaster. Someone who has been investing for 20 years would take it a bit better than someone who started investing 2 years ago.

This is a forum and there'll be different opinions. Ignore function is handy which I recommend to anyone who doesn't want to hear a particular poster's opinion.
Spot on.
 
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HarryCool1

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We need to stop bashing every one who has a different opinion though.
It's cringy and embarrassing.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, as long as they are not bashing the company and management, which was happening at HC.

But genuine concerns shouldn't be discouraged, otherwise it'd be an echo chamber. People literally have their savings on the line, while my motto is don't put more than you can afford to lose, to say that share holders shouldn't voice their opinions isn't something I agree with.

Downrampers need to dealt with, no doubt.
But just because someone says he's concerned about recent market action isn't a solid base to prove he's a downramper. We all go through such stages of psychological roller coaster. Someone who has been investing for 20 years would take it a bit better than someone who started investing 2 years ago.

This is a forum and there'll be different opinions. Ignore function is handy which I recommend to anyone who doesn't want to hear a particular poster's opinion.
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