AVZ Discussion 2022

[Samus]

Well it's been 3 months since the Perth roadshow. I am interested if the majority of people who attended are still confident at a positive result (ML issued, retain 75% and gain 15% FROR).
There was talk about "having the ML by the AGM" from management and even talk about a presidential decree from FT because Nigel was due to meet with FT.

We've seen Felix come out and publicly tell the youth "show me the evidence and corrupt ministers will be gone", we've seen the IGF publicise their report showing how guilty the Green toad has been and yet she still appears in "the first council of ministers of Sama Lukonde 2 government."

We've got Frank being relatively quiet on the bird. We've had Marius and momentum tell us that "its time" 4 months ago.

Wonder which countries Felix will be flying to this month in his new plane. When is this Lion going to show his damn teeth @Carlos Danger ???

How much longer do we have to wait before releasing the "amazing string of announcements" and then flicking this off.

Has the idea ever crossed managements minds to reduce their salaries in the interim?

Farkn. Need another "Site update" showing us that we have built some more housing....

Well we've got Nigel speaking at 121 mining in Cape Town on the 6th, they must have been desperate. He can repeat all the shit he's been saying for 2+ years. How embarrassing.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Well it's been 3 months since the Perth roadshow. I am interested if the majority of people who attended are still confident at a positive result (ML issued, retain 75% and gain 15% FROR).
There was talk about "having the ML by the AGM" from management and even talk about a presidential decree from FT because Nigel was due to meet with FT.

We've seen Felix come out and publicly tell the youth "show me the evidence and corrupt ministers will be gone", we've seen the IGF publicise their report showing how guilty the Green toad has been and yet she still appears in "the first council of ministers of Sama Lukonde 2 government."

We've got Frank being relatively quiet on the bird. We've had Marius and momentum tell us that "its time" 4 months ago.

Wonder which countries Felix will be flying to this month in his new plane. When is this Lion going to show his damn teeth @Carlos Danger ???

How much longer do we have to wait before releasing the "amazing string of announcements" and then flicking this off.

Has the idea ever crossed managements minds to reduce their salaries in the interim?

Farkn. Need another "Site update" showing us that we have built some more housing....

If Felix turns his back on the IGF, the NGO's and the local journalists that have supported his fight against corruption then he probably won't be President much longer. That's why we need to sell if he doesn't show his teeth soon. The best case scenario out of the election would be Felix remains in office and we still have delays.

I back Nigel and the bod because everything they said about the delays at the AGM has been proven to be true by the official documents that have been released since. I'm 99% sure they are telling the truth when they have given the laughable deadlines for the ML. But at some point there has to be a decision made that it's best to get the fuck out of there because it's not happening.

Maybe lions gonna lion. Maybe Felix doesn't want us to mine it. Maybe it is simple incompetence and Felix can't back up his talk. Maybe this whole shitshow was thought up by Nigel and Klaus over a few gin and tonics one night in Kinshasa and they will end up working as 'advisers' to whoever buys us out. Maybe the best thing to do is roll the bod and find out exactly what's going on.

 

[Doc]

Well we've got Nigel speaking at 121 mining in Cape Town on the 6th, they must have been desperate. He can repeat all the shit he's been saying for 2+ years. How embarrassing.

I heard they just replaying his 121 talk from a few years ago on the big screen.
Nothings changed

 

[Samus]

I heard they just replaying his 121 talk from a few years on the big screen.
Nothings changed so no need to fly all that way for nothing

Even last time was a repeat of everything we'd already heard for the 12 months prior.
It's seriously embarrassing!

 

[tonster66]

IMO there is a delay in the reshuffle because of the visit by the pope. You can't air your dirty laundry in front of the world. I believe that it was reported that the reshuffle could take up to a couple of weeks from when Felix returned to the DRC. So, we can look forward to next week.

 

[Hemicuda]

If Felix turns his back on the IGF, the NGO's and the local journalists that have supported his fight against corruption then he probably won't be President much longer. That's why we need to sell if he doesn't show his teeth soon. The best case scenario out of the election would be Felix remains in office and we still have delays.

I back Nigel and the bod because everything they said about the delays at the AGM has been proven to be true by the official documents that have been released since. I'm 99% sure they are telling the truth when they have given the laughable deadlines for the ML. But at some point there has to be a decision made that it's best to get the fuck out of there because it's not happening.

Maybe lions gonna lion. Maybe Felix doesn't want us to mine it. Maybe it is simple incompetence and Felix can't back up his talk. Maybe this whole shitshow was thought up by Nigel and Klaus over a few gin and tonics one night in Kinshasa and they will end up working as 'advisers' to whoever buys us out. Maybe the best thing to do is roll the bod and find out exactly what's going on.

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These are daily thoughts in the absence of any information, how else are you supposed to justify what is taking place, was the cat enjoying one of those gnt’s ?

 

[TDITD]

Well it's been 3 months since the Perth roadshow. I am interested if the majority of people who attended are still confident at a positive result (ML issued, retain 75% and gain 15% FROR).
There was talk about "having the ML by the AGM" from management and even talk about a presidential decree from FT because Nigel was due to meet with FT.

We've seen Felix come out and publicly tell the youth "show me the evidence and corrupt ministers will be gone", we've seen the IGF publicise their report showing how guilty the Green toad has been and yet she still appears in "the first council of ministers of Sama Lukonde 2 government."

We've got Frank being relatively quiet on the bird. We've had Marius and momentum tell us that "its time" 4 months ago.

Wonder which countries Felix will be flying to this month in his new plane. When is this Lion going to show his damn teeth @Carlos Danger ???

How much longer do we have to wait before releasing the "amazing string of announcements" and then flicking this off.

Has the idea ever crossed managements minds to reduce their salaries in the interim?

Farkn. Need another "Site update" showing us that we have built some more housing....

Not as confident that's for sure, probably due to the information that's been leaked out of just how much shits been thrown around.

Still confident due to some movement made: Cominere accosted, IGF onside, 40 NGOs onside, Felix rid himself of advisors two of which were known against AVZ so Mupande stooges hence weakening him too, Felix changed his cabinet and is about to change Lukondes too.

Still unsure on Felix, does he want some honey? he does have expensive taste in watches that his salary can't afford.

We have Chinese with DEEP pockets and DRC politicians that LOVE diabetes, not a great mix.
It looks like with this reshuffle we will find out soon on which side Felix falls, Corrupt or Corruption fighter. Expecting the Green Mumba to stay, but be moved into a less lucrative position.
Remember reading somewhere it would take a couple of weeks once Felix is back in country (Kikki?)
so hoping next week, expecting Africa-time so 2-3 weeks away probably

If Felix fucks off on his new plane before sorting the reshuffle out I'm going to need a padded room.

This whole situation is ridiculous, the US are looking into investing in the DRC as are many other countries (germans, japs, koreans). These countries are watching the rampant corruption behind Manono, Felix must have an idea how weak he looks and how bad an idea investing into the DRC looks.

Managements wages are a big piss-off, Nigel will probably laugh as with his not-a-conflict-of-interest AJN holding "none of your business peasant" nudge-wink. They put us here through their actions end of, they should take a cut. wink-nudge-wink

 

[TDITD]

If Felix turns his back on the IGF, the NGO's and the local journalists that have supported his fight against corruption then he probably won't be President much longer. That's why we need to sell if he doesn't show his teeth soon. The best case scenario out of the election would be Felix remains in office and we still have delays.

I back Nigel and the bod because everything they said about the delays at the AGM has been proven to be true by the official documents that have been released since. I'm 99% sure they are telling the truth when they have given the laughable deadlines for the ML. But at some point there has to be a decision made that it's best to get the fuck out of there because it's not happening.

Maybe lions gonna lion. Maybe Felix doesn't want us to mine it. Maybe it is simple incompetence and Felix can't back up his talk. Maybe this whole shitshow was thought up by Nigel and Klaus over a few gin and tonics one night in Kinshasa and they will end up working as 'advisers' to whoever buys us out. Maybe the best thing to do is roll the bod and find out exactly what's going on.

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Agree. $10

I reckon if Felix $10comes down on the Chinese side, if the BOD hasn't read the writing on the wall and aren't looking to sell. Then they better have the worlds greatest reason why, as even that may go down like a lead balloon$10. The talk of rolling the BOD becomes a bit more real in that $10 scenario.

Don't think it'll come to that though. famous last words

$10

$10

 

[wombat74]

Well it's been 3 months since the Perth roadshow. I am interested if the majority of people who attended are still confident at a positive result (ML issued, retain 75% and gain 15% FROR).
There was talk about "having the ML by the AGM" from management and even talk about a presidential decree from FT because Nigel was due to meet with FT.

We've seen Felix come out and publicly tell the youth "show me the evidence and corrupt ministers will be gone", we've seen the IGF publicise their report showing how guilty the Green toad has been and yet she still appears in "the first council of ministers of Sama Lukonde 2 government."

We've got Frank being relatively quiet on the bird. We've had Marius and momentum tell us that "its time" 4 months ago.

Wonder which countries Felix will be flying to this month in his new plane. When is this Lion going to show his damn teeth @Carlos Danger ???

How much longer do we have to wait before releasing the "amazing string of announcements" and then flicking this off.

Has the idea ever crossed managements minds to reduce their salaries in the interim?

Farkn. Need another "Site update" showing us that we have built some more housing....

I see this in very simple terms . A decision on the ML will be made in the coming days / weeks by Felix's actions . At that point if the right changes haven't been made then the ML is lost . It is not ambiguous . We don't need to wait for a Yes ML or No ML . This is the moment SH tell Nigel to pull the rip cord and get us the f--k out of there . We are getting close to the moment where this either starts or finishes . IMO

 

[Misfits]

FROM TITAN ON THE CRAPPER

reshuffle was supposed to be latest friday , we are all waiting hopefully in next few days .
Glencore fined 180 million for bribes in DRC up till 2018 .
Cleaning the cupboard pushing for reparations under Corrupt Kabila reign .
The Chinese it should be noted are under the reparation microscope as well with Felix openly leading that avenue .
So in the context of they above do you really think they are going to let major corruption slide in full international view , when in reality AVZ is a major player in the supply chain regarding MOU with USA .
Felix will carry on with his anti corruption adgenda ,and anyone stating otherwise is completely disingenuous .

Yes i know if any thing is obvious it is like the Sloth out of Zootopia , so slow it's painful, dying from a thousand razor blade cuts .
As Pazboz stated the untouchable man Jean Felix( great respect for Paz ) but i think he will be man handled by the new Minister of Mines .
The Green Woman moved on , the new sheriff dissolving the corrupt 15% Zingin purchase .
My logic unequivocally tells me under the DRC and USA MOU , that AVZ being shafted is just not going to fly .
The alternative is what a chinese run mine , Blinken will pop the champagne on that one .
There is only one option my Fellow LTH i was told that by a little birdie in a Balinese Cab .
look foward to Nigels talk , i think a bit of Morse code will be fowarded if we listen carefully .

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[Roon]

I'm not sure why everyone is counting in this reshuffle so much, from what we've seen in the past it'll take any new ministers a good while to find their feet. And who's to say that the replacement isn't just another criminal since the government is rife with them. FT was our only answer for a quick resolution but this isn't going so well. Vidiye Tshimanga has cast doubt on his integrity as has his inaction to date on the IGF findings.
Also there is nothing to sell with no licence unless we're talking about selling for a pittance. Even then you'd assume that ownership needs 100% clarity.
Everything is hinging on the licence, management even said as much at the roadshow.
Not sure about anyone else but I'm getting sick of being strung along by one false hope afrer another that make no sense.
I don't expect any sort of quick resolution after the government reshuffle, if it even happens and if the grub is truly gone.
Unless something monumental happens behind the scenes I reckon we're still in for a slow grind.
Remember still zero resolution to any of the outstanding issues to date.

Totally agree Sammo.

 

[Frank]

“President Félix Tshisekedi thanks Pope Francis “for his inspiring words around peace and solidarity”….

With a smirk on his face while his minister of mines meets with the corrupt Chinese to create some solidarity around a win-win situation of embezzlement fraud and theft of a nations resources.

Let’s see the reshuffle

Let’s see the reshuffle

*Ditto, Now the Pope has pissed off, lets see the long awaited / overdue / Imminent

Government reshuffle:

Yes the announcement has been made officially.

“It is true that it is imminent, but that could happen after the return of the President of the Republic who has already been in Switzerland since last night.

Things are already fixed, the new government team will be known before the end of January.

Maybe next weekend in the evening,” said a close associate of the President of the Republic who requested anonymity.

The Ministers on whom the suspicions of corruption weigh will not be renewed, according to our source.

“For the Head of State, all the ministers who are in the sights of the General Inspectorate of Finance will not be renewed.

Already the restructuring of his cabinet has been a strong message with the sidelining of people considered to be powerful advisers…”, Continues our source.

The RTNC will certainly be the most followed media in this period when the Congolese are waiting for the new government team.

 

[Dazmac66]

Maybe the political hitting power of announcing one of the world's most profitable mining ventures getting the green light is being used as a vote winner by Felix - the closer to the the election the greater the impact on voters come ballot day. I can think of no other reason for the bewildering lack of leadership.

 

[Xerof]

Even from Dubai, Utahjazz doesn’t escape my moderation reporting of his blatant cross promotion of TTX.

Kunt

There was a very interesting discussion on Twitter involving Solo and a local Congolese, which @JAG might like to post in here if he has time and can find it

Related to the political arrangements between FT and JK

 

[Samus]

ACAJ congratulates the Minister of Mines for having signed decrees nos. 00031 and 00032 dated 01/28/23 relating to decrees nos. 00147 and 00080 relating respectively to the granting of exploitation permit no. his partial waiver of the

exploration permit no. 13359. It is a courageous decision that allows the state-owned company COMINIERE SA to recover all of its rights to the Manono lithium concession. ACAJ reiterates to the Government its request for review of the DATHCOM contract
@KapiambaGeorges

 

[Doc]

ACAJ congratulates the Minister of Mines for having signed decrees nos. 00031 and 00032 dated 01/28/23 relating to decrees nos. 00147 and 00080 relating respectively to the granting of exploitation permit no. his partial waiver of the

exploration permit no. 13359. It is a courageous decision that allows the state-owned company COMINIERE SA to recover all of its rights to the Manono lithium concession. ACAJ reiterates to the Government its request for review of the DATHCOM contract
@KapiambaGeorges

Da fuq does that all mean????

 

[Samus]

Da fuq does that all mean????

Fucked if I know doesn't sound good. Unless it's only related to the mmcs/zijin give away. We need more info, or just as likely it's bullshit.

 

[Mr Clean]

Sounds like Zijin’s fucked if Cominiere regain their rights. That’s certain.

Though, I wonder if this means they are trying to revoke AVZ’s rights all the way back from 2016. They have a problem with the Dathcom JV afterall

 

[Doc]

Never a dull moment…..

 

[Mr Clean]

Honestly this is a positive development. If Zijin and friends are kicked from the project that’s great. If the DRC have kicked everyone, we can sue for damages in the ICC. Would the DRC be that brazen to try and remove us as well? I’m not sure.

But it’s finally progress after 10 months.

Something is actually happening.