AVZ Discussion 2022

[Bonsoir]

300,000 - that's as many as Hobart.

And how many could afford power, 10% ? At least AVZ would be offering to the people of Manono the best deal imo if in control of power station.

The power to the mine with the bonus of supplying townships. Fuck sounds like a win win to me.

 

[Azzler]

Compared to Manono today, the Manono of tomorrow will have SO much money pumped into the town from wages, and services needed/provided it will absolutely transform the place.
Skilled people will be moving to the town, training facillities needed, and with money comes growth, buildings, infrastructure improvements.
With money comes demand for services, those services are additional jobs created.
It's a fabulous story for this very poor town.
Does anyone know if there's any industry at all in Manono? Farms I'm guessing.

 

[Dijon101]

Thanks to @MoneyBags1348 and his thread on the Power plant.

"Since September 2022, the General Management of Cominière SA, a member of which is supposed to sit on the Technical Committee for Monitoring the works of the rehabilitation project for the Mpiana-Mwanga power stations, has launched a call for tenders claiming that the said power stations are abandoned. During a meeting organized by the communities of Manono on Saturday November 12, 2022 on Dathcom Mining SA, the delegate of Cominière SA publicly declared that they have “selected the Chinese group Zijin for the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power stations of Mpiana Mwanga within three years and unconditionally”, according to information in our possession received from a participant in the said meeting. While the official documents in our possession (including the ministerial decree of which we publish a copy in this press release) prove the contrary.

The signatory organizations find in this one more unfortunate maneuver to block the start of the mining project of Dathcom Mining SA"

 

[Sammy_da_Smile]

Anyone want to purchase the project intelligence report haha

AVZ – Mpiana-Mwanga Hydroelectric Plant Rehabilitation 54 MW – Katanga

www.globaldata.com

 

[Bin59]

The BNC site was updated 26 June 23 which also shows AVZ as still being involved in the project.

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[Retrobyte]

Does anyone know if there's any industry at all in Manono? Farms I'm guessing.

Artisanal mining

Lithium Bonanza: China Battles West for Raw Material of the Future

The Democratic Republic of the Congo is home to perhaps the largest lithium deposit in the world. China is eagerly trying to get its hands on the valuable resource, but the concession is controlled by an Australian company. Work-hungry locals are hoping the conflict will soon be resolved.

www.spiegel.de

 

[Azzler]

Artisanal mining

Lithium Bonanza: China Battles West for Raw Material of the Future

The Democratic Republic of the Congo is home to perhaps the largest lithium deposit in the world. China is eagerly trying to get its hands on the valuable resource, but the concession is controlled by an Australian company. Work-hungry locals are hoping the conflict will soon be resolved.

www.spiegel.de

For tin?
I wonder who's buying their bags of dirt.

 

[Azzler]

Artisanal mining

Lithium Bonanza: China Battles West for Raw Material of the Future

The Democratic Republic of the Congo is home to perhaps the largest lithium deposit in the world. China is eagerly trying to get its hands on the valuable resource, but the concession is controlled by an Australian company. Work-hungry locals are hoping the conflict will soon be resolved.

www.spiegel.de

Ah that was the very article I was referring to a couple posts back. It's quite comprehensive and well put together.

I'm sure AVZ would well afford to pay these artisinal miners a few dolars a day just to take out the garbage, sweep the steps, ect. Just to clear them out of the area without upsetting the people.
Just heartbreaking that's the best these people can get for diggign up dirt and standing in water for 10 hours a day... with their 6 children in tow!

 

[Hodlandwin69]

"Everything is on hold"

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Ah that was the very article I was referring to a couple posts back. It's quite comprehensive and well put together.

I'm sure AVZ would well afford to pay these artisinal miners a few dolars a day just to take out the garbage, sweep the steps, ect. Just to clear them out of the area without upsetting the people.
Just heartbreaking that's the best these people can get for diggign up dirt and standing in water for 10 hours a day... with their 6 children in tow!

Thanks for that article - it was pretty good except that it downplayed the naked greed and corruption form our Chinese mates, including #FuckZijin.

Re the artisanal miners - i have a vague recollection of something in the mining code that preserved artisanal mining rights within other leases. It sounded like a way of ensuring no loss of employment for those involved (which is quite reasonable), but who knows how that could work in practice in the precinct of a large-scale mine. Nothing to worry about unless #Fuckzijin bring an army of their chinese brethren into manono and start claiming artisanal mining rights. With excavators…

Fuck, i might have just given them an idea - I should just shut up, hey?

 

[Samus]

 

[Juba1845]

Hope that's not a recent photo.

 

[Doc]

Hope that's not a recent photo.

Hope it is. El Presidento had him dragged in to tell him in no uncertain terms that all road blocks for Manono and Dathcom are to cease and to get the fuck on with it
At least in my head that’s what would of been said

 

[wombat74]

Hope it is. El Presidento had him dragged in to tell him in no uncertain terms that all road blocks for Manono and Dathcom are to cease and to get the fuck on with it
At least in my head that’s what would of been said

The C--T was just promoted by Presidential Order . Recent Official photo is my guess . Followed by a big dinner and a chit chat over a few whiskeys .

 

[cruiser51]

Cadastre has spoken with AVZ, Cominiere, Anser (Electrical Dept.) and a meeting organised by the IGF with the people of MoP.

I don't know if it spoke with Dathomir, or Zijin.

I would say on the basis of these discussions a way forward will be developed.

What will that be?
I would say there will be more discussions following.
As Cadastre CEO has said he works under direction of MoM, which is essentially El Presidente.

After everything is signed and sealed (ML), BoD will announce that fact, but not the progress on the court cases.
Progress of court cases will be discussed after they have been finalised, or if delayed.

AIMO

He is probably thinking: What am I going to tell Zijin.

 

[Xerof]

 

[Skar]

Ah that was the very article I was referring to a couple posts back. It's quite comprehensive and well put together.

I'm sure AVZ would well afford to pay these artisinal miners a few dolars a day just to take out the garbage, sweep the steps, ect. Just to clear them out of the area without upsetting the people.
Just heartbreaking that's the best these people can get for diggign up dirt and standing in water for 10 hours a day... with their 6 children in tow!

I was at the roadshow in Sydney, there was talk of actually working with them, training and education programs, providing better tools and employment, not exploiting them or looking down on them. They were seen as neighbors not squatters.

It makes it all the more unfortunate the corrupt actions of some of their elite class, are what is keeping them from a better way of life... as an Australian company there are things we just cant do (and even if we were legally allowed to we wouldn't), where as China can and does.

 

[wombat74]

"Everything is on hold"

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"Everything is on hold "

No sh1t sherlock . 15 months and counting . New CAMI need the next 8 months( conveniently ) to get up to speed on what the f--ks been going on for the past 24 months ?Gives MoM a safe passage into OZ ? Hey Hodlandwin69 you still good for the ML to be sorted by last Tuesday ? Can you touch base with Azzler and get back to me . Oh and can you order an Italian take away for Nelly . She's fading away to nothing . 10 4 big doggie

 

[Azzler]

I think old wobbles might need a welfare check.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

"Everything is on hold "

No sh1t sherlock . 15 months and counting . New CAMI need the next 8 months( conveniently ) to get up to speed on what the f--ks been going on for the past 24 months . Gives MoM a safe passage into OZ . Hey Hodlandwin69 you still good for the ML to be sorted by last Tuesday ? Can you touch base with Azzler and get back to me . Oh and can you order an Italian take away for Nelly . She's fading away to nothing . 10 4 big doggie

Yeh man, all sorted