BRICK
Where’s Zeebot 😶🌫️
I think he meant he is the llunch?
AVZ Discussion 2022
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forestgump
Member
Hopefully the announcement on the number of shareholders voting for or against puts any arguments from Fat Tail to bed.
Cumquat Cap
Regular
essentially 7 to 1 of voters for all 3 MMGA directors - they got fucking smashed and hopefully this puts it to bed.
They will lose every election onto our board and should go play in traffic
They will lose every election onto our board and should go play in traffic
Would be great to get some clarity from Felix T on his stand against corruption and following the mining act in the DRC.
Bray
Regular
He cannot do that as it goes against his peoples (china)
Xerof
Flaming 1967
Coming for you Tom and others, merry fucking christmas
The Company is continuing to investigate the conduct of certain third parties and the unauthorised disclosure of confidential and privileged information over the past 12 months 1, particularly in light of the voting information available to the Company following the AGM, and importantly as to whether there are any regulatory implications of such conduct.
1 Commencing in December 2022 following publication of certain articles in the Australian Financial Review by Tom Richardson on 12 and 20 December 2022.
The Company is continuing to investigate the conduct of certain third parties and the unauthorised disclosure of confidential and privileged information over the past 12 months 1, particularly in light of the voting information available to the Company following the AGM, and importantly as to whether there are any regulatory implications of such conduct.
1 Commencing in December 2022 following publication of certain articles in the Australian Financial Review by Tom Richardson on 12 and 20 December 2022.
Dave Evans
Regular
And plenty of shareholders on TSE with stored evidence of their disinformation. It might be time to repost this one of tommy’s deliberate attempt to mislead people into thinking a group of locals in the DRC were protesting against AVZ
Dave Evans
Regular
Here’s some information on Fat Tail and MMGA. I don’t really know what to make of it yet, I just thought I would put it here so I can reference it easier down the track.
Fat Tail registered in March 2023. MMGA registered in August 2023.
The information was from @9cardomaha @aanti.dumb and @protoje
Domain registered 6 days ago with "redacted" registrar details.
forestgump
Member
If i had the time and money i would register domains for .com.au and variations to makemanonogreatagain such as MMGA etc.
Sorry to bring up the topic again . What is the method of extraction when it comes to collecting the $$$ from Cominiere ? Where are the $$$ coming from ? Does AVZ get it in one lump sum or can the DRC delay it or f--k us around and drip feed it ? Clearly if AVZ can access this money then concerns around running costs and legal expenses disappear completely . 1 million $$$ a week in fines is in and of itself a decent business and Cominiere is being very accommodating providing proof on a regular basis of their breach. CheersMMGA's bullshit about LOCKE is just a scare tactic - and clearly has sown doubt so hopefully this helps people focus a little.
- ICC Emergency injunction 2 (post 15775) submitted October 30, emergency ruling Nov 15.
- ICC tribunal already formed and waiting for submissions before Dec 15 - enforcement will come around January for breaches already incurred.
- Emergency measures request ICSID Nov 7, Tribunal response Nov 20 with measures and timetables, sets Dec 11 hearing - verdict likely before Christmas.
Don't go drinking the MMGA cool-aid...
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BRICK
Where’s Zeebot 😶🌫️
DRC= Democratic republ of CONGO
BTW last time i checked makemanonogreatagain.com.au was available to regiserHere’s some information on Fat Tail and MMGA. I don’t really know what to make of it yet, I just thought I would put it here so I can reference it easier down the track.
Fat Tail registered in March 2023. MMGA registered in August 2023.
The information was from @9cardomaha @aanti.dumb and @protoje
Domain registered 6 days ago with "redacted" registrar details.
Excellent Tweet by Jens
Jens Emil Soderlund
@emil_jens
$AVZ so ppl asking me what’s next - not an easy question to answer IMO Note: Below are my views based on observations and local intel from Congolese;
1. MMGACIC huge tick, as been booted and this has now to get back to DRC higher powers (PR, MoP, MoJ, Mom etc), so question remains will this be enough to readdress our MoU, which has been drafted up, reviewed and ready to sign ? Personally, I don’t think so as geo political landscape is getting muddier and more complicated (elections - EU has withdrawn their team for coming elections);
2.
As a local Congolese contact commented re EU withdrawal of electoral experts “IF THERE ARE REAL ELECTIONS” So he is hinting will this be another rigged election ?
3. The two main opponents to Mr Felix Tshisekedi, who are the most popular are Katumbi and Fayulu - leading contender more Moise Katumbi. Best outcome for us SHs is IF one of these contenders or both bring up “AVZ file” as an exemple how corrupt Sama2 has been and use this file as debate topic (as here Australian followed their Law and Minining Code down to a tee, and see you let Chinese Zijin steal it out from under their nose) or
4.
Will any opponent go as far as calling out the PR as a traitor ((selling out his country, as in still too much corruption) and which still carries the death sentence in DRC)), but I doubt this will happen as society / government will be thrown into kaos and even a sound mind of any opponent wouldn’t want this for their People / country, as all know democracies are not built over a day.
5.
ICC / Washington / ICSID. It is well known in local circles that the Cominiere informed his superiors (MoP, MoM, MoJ and higher up to PR, that AVZ has done nada in PR15775, as in not proving up any resource in that area - we all know this is an outright lie (CdL and more), once this is known and proven to higher powers, this hopefully will - minimum - move the boarder line to original ML decree (where South was much higher up than so claimed Manono Lithium (Zijin)), and North originally was to provided to us as an extended exploration license) Conclusion, with all above taken into consideration, worst case we will have an MoU / ML for the “original” South, the million dollar question is how soon or after elections Q1 next year under a new PM (like VK) and where MoP is moved to some other small ministerial function.
So yes, IMO Mr Tshisekedi will be re-elected again, whether rightfully or not. In the meantime, we will just have to witness Zijin drilling on an area of Manono (since November 15), part of which drillings has already been proven up with the blessing of corrupt Cominiere; Lisette, Célestin and Adele #Zijin but there will IMO be consequences here (as in at least moving the Manono Lithium further North). Next couple of months will be a nervy one for all, both for locals and us foreign investors and hope that the higher powers in DRC will take ICC further findings seriously and address AVZ file, accordingly. As for ICSID - any incumbent would have to take this seriously, last trump card - that has to disappear - otherwise no more funding from current stalled 1bn USD World Bank funds !! Jens Emil Soderlund
Jens Emil Soderlund
@emil_jens
$AVZ so ppl asking me what’s next - not an easy question to answer IMO Note: Below are my views based on observations and local intel from Congolese;
1. MMGACIC huge tick, as been booted and this has now to get back to DRC higher powers (PR, MoP, MoJ, Mom etc), so question remains will this be enough to readdress our MoU, which has been drafted up, reviewed and ready to sign ? Personally, I don’t think so as geo political landscape is getting muddier and more complicated (elections - EU has withdrawn their team for coming elections);
2.
As a local Congolese contact commented re EU withdrawal of electoral experts “IF THERE ARE REAL ELECTIONS” So he is hinting will this be another rigged election ?
3. The two main opponents to Mr Felix Tshisekedi, who are the most popular are Katumbi and Fayulu - leading contender more Moise Katumbi. Best outcome for us SHs is IF one of these contenders or both bring up “AVZ file” as an exemple how corrupt Sama2 has been and use this file as debate topic (as here Australian followed their Law and Minining Code down to a tee, and see you let Chinese Zijin steal it out from under their nose) or
4.
Will any opponent go as far as calling out the PR as a traitor ((selling out his country, as in still too much corruption) and which still carries the death sentence in DRC)), but I doubt this will happen as society / government will be thrown into kaos and even a sound mind of any opponent wouldn’t want this for their People / country, as all know democracies are not built over a day.
5.
ICC / Washington / ICSID. It is well known in local circles that the Cominiere informed his superiors (MoP, MoM, MoJ and higher up to PR, that AVZ has done nada in PR15775, as in not proving up any resource in that area - we all know this is an outright lie (CdL and more), once this is known and proven to higher powers, this hopefully will - minimum - move the boarder line to original ML decree (where South was much higher up than so claimed Manono Lithium (Zijin)), and North originally was to provided to us as an extended exploration license) Conclusion, with all above taken into consideration, worst case we will have an MoU / ML for the “original” South, the million dollar question is how soon or after elections Q1 next year under a new PM (like VK) and where MoP is moved to some other small ministerial function.
So yes, IMO Mr Tshisekedi will be re-elected again, whether rightfully or not. In the meantime, we will just have to witness Zijin drilling on an area of Manono (since November 15), part of which drillings has already been proven up with the blessing of corrupt Cominiere; Lisette, Célestin and Adele #Zijin but there will IMO be consequences here (as in at least moving the Manono Lithium further North). Next couple of months will be a nervy one for all, both for locals and us foreign investors and hope that the higher powers in DRC will take ICC further findings seriously and address AVZ file, accordingly. As for ICSID - any incumbent would have to take this seriously, last trump card - that has to disappear - otherwise no more funding from current stalled 1bn USD World Bank funds !! Jens Emil Soderlund
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cruiser51
Top 20
lynch?
Cumquat Cap
Regular
How much is the Rd/South worth in everyone's estimation? would be nice to get this moving whilst they bicker over the northern portion FFS
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