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I don’t think the Edge box is old news. My guess is that some of the companies mentioned on the Edge Box ecosystem have developed solutions. I also think the same will hold true for the Akida M2 set up. All of which I think we will be hearing about soon.
Some have expected more from the CES than small boxes using AK1000, myself included.What's with the bigthis morning??
AK2 and TENNs?? They should be talking about that instead, IMO.
I'd suggest that the market has had enough of Brainchip "revealing" partners through unofficial channels, with no real substance behind what being a partner means....How many partners do we have already that have resulted in zero revenue... yes that's right the majority of them!
This new "partnership" is clearly not material, since it is not worthy of an ASX announcement.
The market is waiting for real news, eg an announcement via the ASX that results in significant revenue. Until that happens it's all smoke and mirrors and the usual dot joining as shareholders are exasperated. It doesn't matter how many partners we have, we need real contracts with significant $$$ attached and with recognisable companies.
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If edge box & Akida M2 could return 25 mill a year to keep the lights on I be upbeat about the possibility’s .
Just my guess work that it won’t , more than happy to be wrong
Well this is interesting! Runs large language models from inside the vehicle eliminating cloud latency.
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jipu an AI car assistant that uses uses Intel AI for intent recognition and
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action execution to quickly respond to driver or passenger needs these are
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three examples of many in this growing ecosystem of AI enabled applications for
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Intel Automotive uh in the car and so with this significant Head Start I am
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now very proud to announce Intel arcb series graphics for automotive
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commonly known as battle mage this features over 200 tops and up
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to 12 megabytes of onboard memory this incredible chip will allow automakers to
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run an entire large language model inside the vehicle completely
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eliminating that annoying Cloud latency when asking a question and waiting for a
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response with in vehicle gaming growing in popularity there is no better grain gaming experience than what you get on
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the PC and so with battle mage in your car you can now enjoy AAA PC gaming in
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many new vehicles that will be on the market soon have kids that need to be entertained as I said before have ai
15:26
jipu an AI car assistant that uses uses Intel AI for intent recognition and
15:32
action execution to quickly respond to driver or passenger needs these are
15:37
three examples of many in this growing ecosystem of AI enabled applications for
15:44
Intel Automotive uh in the car and so with this significant Head Start I am
15:51
now very proud to announce Intel arcb series graphics for automotive
16:01
commonly known as battle mage this features over 200 tops and up
16:07
to 12 megabytes of onboard memory this incredible chip will allow automakers to
16:12
run an entire large language model inside the vehicle completely
16:17
eliminating that annoying Cloud latency when asking a question and waiting for a
16:24
response with in vehicle gaming growing in popularity there is no better grain gaming experience than what you get on
16:30
the PC and so with battle mage in your car you can now enjoy AAA PC gaming in
16:37
many new vehicles that will be on the market soon have kids that need to be entertained as I said before have ai
I was of the understanding, that a booth at the CES 2025 was costing ~US $22,000Actually, anyone involved in fairs and exhibitions should know that (not only) smaller companies take the opportunity to exhibit in hotel rooms. There’s nothing wrong with it, and interested parties do visit these exhibitions.
I get what you are saying Guzzi. My take on it is that the team are busy demonstrating the Edge box, M2, Akida 2 and TENNS to the people that matter.
And even from the couple of tweets and LinkedIn posts we know that BrainChip has been recently actively engaging with:
Prophesee
Edge Impulse
RTX
BeEmotion
AI Labs
De Girum
Quantum Ventura
Vedra Labs
I am sure we will hear more about these engagements soon.
White Horse
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Notice The option of "Degirum". New partner.
Model evaluation to streamline the AI workflow from experts at DeGirum, a leader in AI innovation with comprehensive solutions that simplify and accelerate the adoption of AI at the edge.
The way in which the company continues to “release” its meaningful announcements is average at best, management are well aware of shareholder concerns in regards to this and choose to continue regardless. The fact there was no further emphasis of this engagement makes one wonder if it was even supposed to be made public yet.
If you wondering why BrainChip is in a suite at CES instead of on the floor, listen to the last couple of minutes of this podcast.
Yes, I was just airing my frustrations, LOL.
From your short list, one really stand out: RTX, enormous company. Nice to see some top brass from them visiting the BRN hotel room.
Prophesee: Under bank administration, edge company that didn't make it, hmm.
BeEmotion: Less than 20 employees, smart car sensors and stuff.
Al Labs: Very interesting company, could be very beneficial to us down the road.
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De Girum: Small company, just saw the podcast, I slap you back and I slap yours, old buddy, but Bill Eichen knows what's he talking about.
Quantum Ventura: Around 25 employees, specializes in Artificial Intelligence / Machine Learning, AI/ML Verification & Validation, Cyber, etc.
Vedra Labs: Another small company but specialized in medical test products, interesting.
So a lot of engagements going on, which is good. Some said they have been fully booked during CES which is another very good sign that the interest is there.
We just have to be patient, I am convinced it's coming (the IP deals).
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Hi Guzzi, I too would like to see some contracts with huge companies. I think you are right and DTX could be big for us. However I don’t underestimate some of the smaller companies bringing us success. To be honest I am not sure if DiGirum needs to be any bigger to deliver the online service that they provide. I was impressed listening to the podcast and what DiGirum have been able to create so far. Also if Quantum Ventura and BrainChip can crack a stand out solution for cyber security then I think that could be big. From their original announcement we know they have been working on it for a couple of years now.Yes, I was just airing my frustrations, LOL.
From your short list, one really stand out: RTX, enormous company. Nice to see some top brass from them visiting the BRN hotel room.
Prophesee: Under bank administration, edge company that didn't make it, hmm.
BeEmotion: Less than 20 employees, smart car sensors and stuff.
Al Labs: Very interesting company, could be very beneficial to us down the road.
Home - Ai Labs
De Girum: Small company, just saw the podcast, I slap you back and I slap yours, old buddy, but Bill Eichen knows what's he talking about.
Quantum Ventura: Around 25 employees, specializes in Artificial Intelligence / Machine Learning, AI/ML Verification & Validation, Cyber, etc.
Vedra Labs: Another small company but specialized in medical test products, interesting.
So a lot of engagements going on, which is good. Some said they have been fully booked during CES which is another very good sign that the interest is there.
We just have to be patient, I am convinced it's coming (the IP deals).
Time will tell, but I see it as a positive that that companies we are working with are now being mentioned at a time when BrainChip has announced their new Akida stick.
Righto, some one list all these people please and their positions in the company. Cheers
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Nice comment by the wayBrainChip at #CES2025: Day 3 Recap | BrainChip
BrainChip at #CES2025: Day 3 Recap Day 3 brought exciting milestones as CMO Steve Brightfield appeared live on "The Gadget Guy" discussing neuromorphic computing's critical role in advancing #EdgeAI. All Things AI podcast included conversations with Jeff Bier, founder of the Edge AI and Vision...
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If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
"Best-in-class power efficiency", so they say! Whose NPU is this I wonder?
Says here the "basic R-Car X5H includes up to 32 Arm Cortex-720AE" and we know were are compatible across Arm's product range.
Renesas previously collaborated with Hailo to offer combined solutions that pair the R-Car V4H SoC with Hailo-8 AI accelerators.
However, there isn't any publicly available information indicating that Renesas and Hailo have collaborated on the R-Car X5H, at least none that I've found as yet.
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Chiplets Extend Automotive SoC AI and GPU Capability
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Renesas’ R-Car X5H SoC, which meets ASIL B/D, provides scalable automotive compute.
William G. Wong
https://www.electronicdesign.com/print/content/55252079
- Features of the R-Car X5H automotive system-on-chip family.
- How Renesas is taking advantage of chiplets.
The R-Car X5H family is a fifth-generation automotive system-on-chip (SoC) developed by Renesas that supports ASIL B/D capabilities as well as a neural processing unit (NPU). Built on the latest 3-nm chip technology, enhanced versions of the SoC come courtesy of chiplet technology. I talked with Cyril Clocher, Senior Director of the Automotive Product Line, about the details.
High-Performance Compute for Automotive Safety-Critical Apps
The basic R-Car X5H includes up to 32 Arm Cortex-720AE applications cores capable of delivering 1000K DMIPS of performance (Fig. 1). Real-time support is provided by half-a-dozen Arm Cortex-R52 cores with dual lockstep capability. These can deliver 60K DMIPS of performance while meeting ASIL B and ASIL D certification requirements.
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1. The Renesas R-Car X5H includes 32 Arm Cortex-720AE applications cores, six Arm Cortex-R52 cores with lockstep support, an NPU, and a GPU.
There are general-purpose DSP cores, too, along with specialized accelerators such as the image signal processor (ISP) and dense-optical-flow (DOF) hardware accelerator (HWA) for handling multi-megapixel camera video streams.
The on-chip NPU can deliver up to 400 TOPS, while the on-chip GPU generates 4 TFLOPS of performance.
The chip includes an 8-port Ethernet switch, USB 2/3 ports, and PCI Express (PCIe) that supports Gen 4 and Gen 6. Also in the mix are an on-chip dedicated NPU and GPU. The GPU can drive a car’s display panel while the NPU handles artificial-intelligence and machine-learning (AI/ML) models.
Enhanced Automotive Chips Utilize UCIe
While the basic R-Car X5H monolithic chip is very impressive, it is designed to be enhanced using chiplets that employ Universal Chiplet Interconnect Express (UCIe) connectivity (Fig. 2). It can include up to two chiplets.
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2. The R-Car X5H can be enhanced by including an NPU and GPU chiplet.
Renesas has two types of chiplets that can be included in enhanced versions of the R-Car SoC—again, an NPU and a GPU. These are designed to augment the functionality of the built-in NPU and GPU. The chiplet and on-chip NPU are able to run a separate set of AI/ML models. Likewise, the GPU can drive additional displays.
Building a Software-Defined Vehicle
The R-Car X5H family is destined for new automobiles including software-defined vehicles (SDVs). Thanks to the massive amount of computing power, the chip can handle everything from the advanced driver-assistance system (ADAS) to driving automation.
Renesas’ R-Car Open Access (RoX) SDV platform helps get developers up to speed by simplifying their development chores (Fig. 3). It works with a variety of pre-integrated operating systems and frameworks, tying them into the Arm Cortex-A720AE and Cortex-R52 compute arrays. It utilizes open-source software and standard. APIs. Software built on the reference stacks can be turned into products.
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3. The R-Car Open Access (RoX) SDV platform supports pre-integrated operating systems and frameworks.
Chiplets Extend Automotive SoC AI and GPU Capability
Renesas’ R-Car X5H SoC, which meets ASIL B/D, provides scalable automotive compute.www.electronicdesign.com
I think it's great to see NimbleAI combining AKIDA 1500 with the Hailo-8 accelerator for inference processing for their prototype.
Why? Because, as mentioned in the post above, Renesas utilised Hailo-8 AI accelerators for the Renesas' R-Car V4H SoC.
So, the news from NimbleAI further bolsters my hope that our tech may be included in the upcoming Renesas R-Car X5H. Surely NimbleAI can't be the only ones to think that pairing Akida and Hailo is a good idea, can they?
What is also interesting is that IKERLAN is the coordinator of the NimbleAI project.
IKERLAN also happens to be an Associated Partner in the iSense consortium, a European Doctoral Network focused on in-situ monitoring of electromagnetic interference (EMI). Other associated partners in the consortium include - you guessed it - Renesas, as well as Airbus, Valeo, Thales, Phillips and Canon amongst others. So I live in hope that the consortium members, such as Renesas, would be aware of NimbleAI's work.
Incidentally, in relation to the iSense consortium and the in-situ monitoring of electromagnetic interference (EMI), I asked ChatGPT whether BrainChip's neuromorphic technology could help with in-situ monitoring of EMI, by way of the tech being incorporated into some sort of smart sensor and ChatGPT response to this question was extremely optimistic which you judge for yourself from the extract below.
iSense Associated Partneres
ChatGPT response
Associated Partners – iSENSE
dn-isense.eu
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