BRN Discussion Ongoing

[rgupta]

The board including PVDM agreed that it's the best solution.

Quote:
The Board unanimously believes this strategic decision is in the best interests of our shareholders,
our employees, our partners and our existing and future licensees.

No one wants to get shafted, and I think you are overreacting.

Let's see what will be said during the AGM first before crying foul play, shall we?

In the meantime, in the US:

Big Tech is moving quickly and aggressively to ensure it stays on President Trump’s good side.

Companies ranging from Apple (AAPL) and Meta (META) to Google (GOOG, GOOGL) and Amazon (AMZN) have taken steps to improve their standing with Trump, whether that’s through promised investments in American factories or changes to their diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) practices.

Apple has promised to pour $500 billion into projects across the US, including sourcing servers for its Apple Intelligence platform from a factory in Texas, while TSMC (TSM) has pledged to spend $100 billion building out new plants in Arizona.

Google renamed the Gulf of Mexico the Gulf of America in Google Maps, cut its DEI efforts, and removed a clause in its AI policy that would have prevented the company from using the technology for weapons.

Meta’s Mark Zuckerberg has installed Trump ally and UFC CEO Dana White as a Meta board member, curtailed DEI programs, and paid $25 million to settle a lawsuit Trump filed after the social media network banned his account following the Jan. 6 attack.

Amazon founder and Washington Post owner Jeff Bezos, meanwhile, has exerted his influence over the Post’s editorial board, preventing it from endorsing Trump’s rival, former Vice President Kamala Harris, in the run-up to the 2024 election and telling the board to focus on personal liberties and free markets.

“There is an old saying in DC that you’re either at the table or on the menu,” explained Edward Mills, managing director and Washington policy analyst at Raymond James. “We saw significant resistance [from tech] in Trump 1.0, and very frequently tech [companies] found themselves on the menu through much more aggressive antitrust actions and a very unfriendly DC. In Trump 2.0 it is clear to me that they are trying to be at the table.”


More in the link:

https://us.yahoo.com/finance/news/how-big-tech-is-trying-to-win-over-trump-200058642.html

100% agree with you. Apple, google can take decisions because they are profit making companies and their management have an established reputation. These companies are worth trillions of dollars and one executive order from Trump can kill them.
In case of brainchip we are not established, just moving to US without any positivity will only ruin us. On top how many holders are confident with current management that they will do in best interests of holders? And upto now how many times they taken the right decisions?
So let the management proved their worth to us before asking any sacrifice.
Dyor

 

[rgupta]

No you said

The whole game is to make asx holders bank rupt


What games is that? As id like to know if I’m going to loose all my money.

I have a simple equation here, if you are listed on US exchange and you are sitting in Australia and all the investors are Australia based, how much interaction you can do with US regulators.
Then at asx it is only 3 trillion worth of market which US is more 50 trillion dollars of markets. Those big sharks we eat our sp in no time and management will again tell us sp will do what it has to do. And what will you and me get??
Dyor

 

[AusEire]

DB management is responsible for good and bad.Let us see what is coming ahead.
But a mistake by big company can bring them to where intel is today and a mistake by a small company can dilute the entire company like brainchip holders are fearing here.
Regarding intentional or non intentional they must know their holders, they must know how to make a presentation, everything discussed at board meetings need not be out immediately, and there should be some ground work has to go through.
But anyway the arrow is out from the bow and now the only survival for us is management can find some fixes here.
The main fix is management should show us path to be followed. How they are going to get some investments from US before redomicile. If they want to take out investments and go to US that will be cheating.
They have to show us they can handle difficult situations but right now it gets a feeling that Sean is ready to jump the ship.
This is 1st time Sean sold his shares in Jan Feb while the tax season ended in Dec.
Anyway I still feels like a miracle where a invisible helping hand can protect all our investments.
But definately a big no to US listing unless management can prove us it is better for us and they can show they can get funding in US from a tech company or an institutional investor.
Dyor

Just on that last bit about Sean getting ready to jump ship and selling shares.

How are you conjuring up this stuff? What gives you the impression that Sean is ready to "jump ship"?

Lastly, yes Sean did sell some shares to pay a tax bill after he exercised his RSUs but his overall holdings increased by 500k shares.

 

[Diogenese]

Like almost everyone else, I'm disappointed by the present SP, and believe that rehousing at this price would be little short of disasterous, and I believe that the board would not have broached the move unless they anticipated a near-term improvement.

There are a couple of recent developments which may be capable of pproducing the type of business improvement required to boost our market capital and generate substantial recurrent revenue.

QV Lockheed PSU M2 cybresecurity

This started as an SBIR project to develop cybresecurity for the US DoE. I didn't hear what the outcome of the SBIR as, but Brainchip are offering an M2 cybresecurity chip suitable for edge access points. That's a massive market. The amount of malware injected into the internet keeps growing at an alarming rate. The capability to detect and terminate malware at the access point in real time is essential. Think of the disruption a trojan attack could cause to online banking, social networks, business, ...

QV's cyberneuro-RT application was developed in conjunction with Lockheed and Penn Uni:

https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/low-power-neuromorphic-processing-boosts-cyberthreat-detection/

Low-power neuromorphic processing boosts cyberthreat detection​

Technology News | January 20, 2025
By Jean-Pierre Joosting

BrainChip Holdings Ltd has integrated its low-power event-based, neuromorphic AI into an innovative cyberthreat intelligence tool that leverages the Akida™ processor to provide protection for WiFi access, home router, small enterprise routers and other network access devices.​

Quantum Ventura developed the CyberNeuro-RT (CNRT) technology in partnership with Lockheed Martin’s MFC Division and Pennsylvania State University under partial funding from the U.S. Department of Energy. BrainChip supplies at-the-edge neuromorphic processing to facilitate on-chip learning for deployment of network-specific attack cyberthreat detection. Akida’s small form factor provides magnitudes less power consumption than a GPU, overcoming form factor and power limitations of internet-connected devices that otherwise would be unprotected.


Micro-Doppler radar Akida 2

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/i...n-contract-with-air-force-research-laboratory

The producer of neuromorphic artificial intelligence IP, BrainChip, has been engaged in a US$1.8 million contract by Air Force Research Laboratory.

BrainChip will partner with subcontractor(s) to develop comprehensive set of algorithms and neural networks optimised for BrainChip neuromorphic hardware.

The contract, granted under the US federal government’s Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) program over the 12-month term of the agreement, is expected to develop neuromorphic radar signalling processing.

...

The contract is an expansion of efforts after a multinational aerospace and defense customer successfully demonstrated radar processing algorithms capable of running on BrainChip’s commercial off-the-shelf neuromorphic hardware as part of an internal research and development initiative.

This current program, however, will develop algorithms based on BrainChip’s proprietary state space model algorithm framework known as TENNs (Temporal Event Neural Network) and will be optimised to run on Akida 2.0 hardware.

The BrainChip TENNs algorithm, combined with Akida 2.0 technology, has successfully demonstrated the capability to run models very efficiently, resulting in significantly higher performance at ultra-low power relative to traditional accelerators running traditional models.

This contract is to produce TENNs models/algorithms optimized to run on Akida 2/TENNs. we know that TENNs can run without Akida, but, as Tony Lewis said, they're better together.

DOD SBIR 24.2 | SBIR.gov

legacy.www.sbir.gov

Mapping Complex Sensor Signal Processing Algorithms onto Neuromorphic Chips

OUSD (R&E) CRITICAL TECHNOLOGY AREA(S): Trusted AI and Autonomy; Advanced Computing and Software; Microelectronics; Emerging Threat Reduction

The goal is to outline a versatile approach that can translate algorithms as specified in the Matlab or Python software environment into a neuromorphic model implemented in physical hardware.

There have been a couple of false dawns as far as producing the Akida 2 SoC, but this contract is to produce models/algorithms for Akida 2, so the wheels may be turning in the background (NDA?).

MicroDoppler radar can be used, eg, to detect, identify, and track drones from their propellor rotation signature, so there is an ongoing need for this.

This project has been given priority status by bypassing Phase 1.


Then there was the announcement for Lockheed to set up cybresecurity for UAE (with or without QV).

So there are a few recent announcements which may come to the party

My favourite is the QV Cyberneuro-RT cybersecurity application.

That said, it would be good to have Akida 2 produced in silicon as a result of the microDoppler radar project.

Whether it's one of the above, or one (or more) of the many partnerships/EAPs, the penny has to drop before rehousing.

 

[AusEire]

As everyone says it for tax purposes, so maybe he owed the tax man a few million $$$ before he joined us

He paid roughly $186k in taxes. That would put him on a marginal tax rate of 40%.

My math could be out though So happy to be corrected

 

[rgupta]

Just on that last bit about Sean getting ready to jump ship and selling shares.

How are you conjuring up this stuff? What gives you the impression that Sean is ready to "jump ship"?

Lastly, yes Sean did sell some shares to pay a tax bill after he exercised his RSUs but his overall holdings increased by 500k shares.

RSUs are equivalent of shares. He sell 2.1 million RSU and then convert them in shares.
Regarding Sean jumping the ship that is a guesstimate based upon the facts in last 3-4 years he always sell in Nov,dec and this time he is selling again after selling in NOV earlier as well. For every time he has to pay tax he sell brn shares.
I donot know the same is advance tax or Sean is selling in anticipation that sp will be much lower in Nov Dec this year.
On top there is a lot of pressure regarding redomicile, contract with ARFL, finding a subcontractor and then earlier announcement on asx that sub contractor is signed for 800000 USD, but then providing details in 4c that negotiations are going on with sub contractor, so if the negotiations are still holding them how team brainchip knows costs will be 800000 only. That looks like the earlier subcontractor backs out.
But everything is a guesstimate.
Dyor

 

[AusEire]

RSUs are equivalent of shares. He sell 2.1 million RSU and then convert them in shares.
Regarding Sean jumping the ship that is a guesstimate based upon the facts in last 3-4 years he always sell in Nov,dec and this time he is selling again after selling in NOV earlier as well. For every time he has to pay tax he sell brn shares.
I donot know the same is advance tax or Sean is selling in anticipation that sp will be much lower in Nov Dec this year.
On top there is a lot of pressure regarding redomicile, contract with ARFL, finding a subcontractor and then earlier announcement on asx that sub contractor is signed for 800000 USD, but then providing details in 4c that negotiations are going on with sub contractor, so if the negotiations are still holding them how team brainchip knows costs will be 800000 only. That looks like the earlier subcontractor backs out.
But everything is a guesstimate.
Dyor

He converts the RSUs to Ordinary share's(that's the tax event). He then sells ordinary shares to pay for that tax event. There's not much else to it.

So you're basing your "guesstimate" on absolutely nothing. There's not even the slightest rumor of Sean potentially leaving.

 

[JB49]

Like almost everyone else, I'm disappointed by the present SP, and believe that rehousing at this price would be little short of disasterous, and I believe that the board would not have broached the move unless they anticipated a near-term improvement.

There are a couple of recent developments which may be capable of pproducing the type of business improvement required to boost our market capital and generate substantial recurrent revenue.

QV Lockheed PSU M2 cybresecurity

This started as an SBIR project to develop cybresecurity for the US DoE. I didn't hear what the outcome of the SBIR as, but Brainchip are offering an M2 cybresecurity chip suitable for edge access points. That's a massive market. The amount of malware injected into the internet keeps growing at an alarming rate. The capability to detect and terminate malware at the access point in real time is essential. Think of the disruption a trojan attack could cause to online banking, social networks, business, ...

QV's cyberneuro-RT application was developed in conjunction with Lockheed and Penn Uni:

https://www.eenewseurope.com/en/low-power-neuromorphic-processing-boosts-cyberthreat-detection/

Low-power neuromorphic processing boosts cyberthreat detection​

Technology News | January 20, 2025
By Jean-Pierre Joosting

BrainChip Holdings Ltd has integrated its low-power event-based, neuromorphic AI into an innovative cyberthreat intelligence tool that leverages the Akida™ processor to provide protection for WiFi access, home router, small enterprise routers and other network access devices.​

Quantum Ventura developed the CyberNeuro-RT (CNRT) technology in partnership with Lockheed Martin’s MFC Division and Pennsylvania State University under partial funding from the U.S. Department of Energy. BrainChip supplies at-the-edge neuromorphic processing to facilitate on-chip learning for deployment of network-specific attack cyberthreat detection. Akida’s small form factor provides magnitudes less power consumption than a GPU, overcoming form factor and power limitations of internet-connected devices that otherwise would be unprotected.


Micro-Doppler radar Akida 2

https://www.defenceconnect.com.au/i...n-contract-with-air-force-research-laboratory

The producer of neuromorphic artificial intelligence IP, BrainChip, has been engaged in a US$1.8 million contract by Air Force Research Laboratory.

BrainChip will partner with subcontractor(s) to develop comprehensive set of algorithms and neural networks optimised for BrainChip neuromorphic hardware.

The contract, granted under the US federal government’s Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) program over the 12-month term of the agreement, is expected to develop neuromorphic radar signalling processing.

...

The contract is an expansion of efforts after a multinational aerospace and defense customer successfully demonstrated radar processing algorithms capable of running on BrainChip’s commercial off-the-shelf neuromorphic hardware as part of an internal research and development initiative.

This current program, however, will develop algorithms based on BrainChip’s proprietary state space model algorithm framework known as TENNs (Temporal Event Neural Network) and will be optimised to run on Akida 2.0 hardware.

The BrainChip TENNs algorithm, combined with Akida 2.0 technology, has successfully demonstrated the capability to run models very efficiently, resulting in significantly higher performance at ultra-low power relative to traditional accelerators running traditional models.

This contract is to produce TENNs models/algorithms optimized to run on Akida 2/TENNs. we know that TENNs can run without Akida, but, as Tony Lewis said, they're better together.

DOD SBIR 24.2 | SBIR.gov

legacy.www.sbir.gov

Mapping Complex Sensor Signal Processing Algorithms onto Neuromorphic Chips

OUSD (R&E) CRITICAL TECHNOLOGY AREA(S): Trusted AI and Autonomy; Advanced Computing and Software; Microelectronics; Emerging Threat Reduction

The goal is to outline a versatile approach that can translate algorithms as specified in the Matlab or Python software environment into a neuromorphic model implemented in physical hardware.

There have been a couple of false dawns as far as producing the Akida 2 SoC, but this contract is to produce models/algorithms for Akida 2, so the wheels may be turning in the background (NDA?).

MicroDoppler radar can be used, eg, to detect, identify, and track drones from their propellor rotation signature, so there is an ongoing need for this.

This project has been given priority status by bypassing Phase 1.


Then there was the announcement for Lockheed and QV to set up cybresecurity for UAE.

So there are a few recent announcements which may come to the party

My favourite is the QV Cyberneuro-RT cybersecurity application.

That said, it would be good to have Akida 2 produced in silicon as a result of the microDoppler radar project.

Whether it's one of the above, or one (or more) of the many partnerships/EAPs, the penny has to drop before rehousing.

I believe it was just lockheed to set up cyber in the UAE. I dont believe there was anything about Quantum Ventura being involved.

Lockheed has a huge range of cyber solutions without Quantum Venturas involvement.

 

[DK6161]

I'll try to get a response from Peter when I give him a call, he knows all about the loyalty and has met many Australian shareholders, with 3
NED's on the Board from Australia, nothing should ever be taken for granted, my personal attitude is that, we are still making forward steps, yes it's bloody frustrating seeing our share price so damn low, are we undervalued ?? it's hard to say when we see the quarterly revenue, it's depressing, lets be honest...BUT, why are big corporations still engaged with us ? because we have something that's definitely disruptive.

I agree with many of the regular posters, and my opinion really is, the company has to reveal exactly why this moving to the US at this stage
is so important, I want them to be upfront and truly sell me the idea WHY, NOT JUST BECAUSE THEY SAY SO.....many in Australia on this stock
are really hurting, yet we have a brilliant technology, don't you all agree ?

What we really need is AKD II and TENN's to infiltrate the ASX and counter the BOTS once and for all, the trading pattern and individual lines
make me sick......corruption at its finest..........ASIC make me sick as well.......absolutely gutless !!!!

Rant and moan completed..........Tech (stay strong BRN lovers)

Oh wow look, someone has our company's founder on speed dial.
You must feel very special amongst the rest of us commoners.
Do you also have Sean's number by any chance? If so, do us a favour and ask where is the explosion of sales and the revenue that he promised us commoners?
Much appreciated!

 

[Diogenese]

I believe it was just lockheed to set up cyber in the UAE. I dont believe there was anything about Quantum Ventura being involved.

Lockheed has a huge range of cyber solutions without Quantum Venturas involvement.

Thanks JB,

You are probably right. I may have "misremembered" the article.

 

[Space Cadet]

Tata could be our saviour as long as it happens before are pushing up daisies.

https://ai.tataelxsi.com/healthcare...or-disease-detection-diagnosis-and-prognosis/

https://ai.tataelxsi.com/healthcare-and-life-sciences/ai-use-cases-in-healthcare-and-life-sciences/

SC

 

[manny100]

Tata could be our saviour as long as it happens before are pushing up daisies.

https://ai.tataelxsi.com/healthcare...or-disease-detection-diagnosis-and-prognosis/

https://ai.tataelxsi.com/healthcare-and-life-sciences/ai-use-cases-in-healthcare-and-life-sciences/

SC

Agree, the partnership news release was August 28th 2023 so we should get some positive news later this year.

 

[DingoBorat]

I agree that the US is where we can make some serious cash but, as we sit on 20c in the asx if we were
to get 1 or 2 good announcements we could possible go to $2+ and a 10x boost on SP no problem, we have seen it done before.
If we head to US with a massive consolidation at 20c which will put us at $4 and the same value in our shares but how long before we see
a 10x improvemnet on SP to get the same result, which would have to go to $40.
A very long while i am thinking.
Would much prefer to see that initial lift here first.
Does this make sense or am i over thinking it?

"I agree that the US is where we can make some serious cash but, as we sit on 20c in the asx if we were
to get 1 or 2 good announcements we could possible go to $2+ and a 10x boost on SP no problem, we have seen it done before.
If we head to US with a massive consolidation at 20c which will put us at $4 and the same value in our shares but how long before we see
a 10x improvemnet on SP to get the same result, which would have to go to $40.
A very long while i am thinking.
Would much prefer to see that initial lift here first.
Does this make sense or am i over thinking it?"


No, you are underthinking it Luppo, as is everyone who thinks the same.

Why do you think it's easier, to go from 20 cents to $2 (AUD) than 4 to $40 (USD)?

You are not taking the amount of shares on issue into consideration, as the Market Capitalisation, is exactly the same.

2 dollars x 1.8 billion shares = 3.6 billion dollars.

40 dollars x 60 million shares = 2.4 billion dollars (or 3.6 AUD).


Does anyone here, think BrainChip could not reach a 2.4 billion USD valuation, if we were finally kicking goals, as would be required to reach a 3.6 billion AUD valuation here?

If BrainChip actually starts performing and living up to its potential, is a 10 billion USD valuation in the Future possible?

10 billion divided by 60 million Shares, is 166 USD.


This is why my only concern is dilution on listing.
If the Company says, we need to have X amount available for US investors, I'm going to say "F... Em" let them try to buy the ones already on issue.

We will have ample funding available, as it is for now and any further raise needed can be done at a much higher price.

Moving to the Biggest Economy in the World, which is Strengthening and putting itself First, is only going to benefit us.

BrainChip for NASDAQ!

 

[yogi]

So I was listened to the quick add from comsec other day about ASX to my surprise Technology comes to bottom 2%. No surprise BRN board must been in talks for sometime to move over to USA

 

[yogi]

So I was listening to the quick add from comsec other day about ASX to my surprise Technology comes to bottom 2%. No surprise BRN board must been in talks for sometime to move over to USA

 

[Luppo71]

"I agree that the US is where we can make some serious cash but, as we sit on 20c in the asx if we were
to get 1 or 2 good announcements we could possible go to $2+ and a 10x boost on SP no problem, we have seen it done before.
If we head to US with a massive consolidation at 20c which will put us at $4 and the same value in our shares but how long before we see
a 10x improvemnet on SP to get the same result, which would have to go to $40.
A very long while i am thinking.
Would much prefer to see that initial lift here first.
Does this make sense or am i over thinking it?"


No, you are underthinking it Luppo, as is everyone who thinks the same.

Why do you think it's easier, to go from 20 cents to $2 (AUD) than 4 to $40 (USD)?

You are not taking the amount of shares on issue into consideration, as the Market Capitalisation, is exactly the same.

2 dollars x 1.8 billion shares = 3.6 billion dollars.

40 dollars x 60 million shares = 2.4 billion dollars (or 3.6 AUD).


Does anyone here, think BrainChip could not reach a 2.4 billion USD valuation, if we were finally kicking goals, as would be required to reach a 3.6 billion AUD valuation here?

If BrainChip actually starts performing and living up to its potential, is a 10 billion USD valuation in the Future possible?

10 billion divided by 60 million Shares, is 166 USD.


This is why my only concern is dilution on listing.
If the Company says, we need to have X amount available for US investors, I'm going to say "F... Em" let them try to buy the ones already on issue.

We will have ample funding available, as it is for now and any further raise needed can be done at a much higher price.

Moving to the Biggest Economy in the World, which is Strengthening and putting itself First, is only going to benefit us.

BrainChip for NASDAQ!

I watched as we went to $2.30 in 10 days , would be the same as going to $16 in ten days on the Nasdaq.
Most of the big tech companies in the US had taken years to move that much but if you think
we can get a 400% lift in a shorter period bring it on.
I think it is possible to go this high or i wouldnt be in but in the same amount of time, i think not.

 

[DingoBorat]

I watched as we went to $2.30 in 10 days , would be the same as going to $16 in ten days on the Nasdaq.
Most of the big tech companies in the US had taken years to move that much but if you think
we can get a 400% lift in a shorter period bring it on.
I think it is possible to go this high or i wouldnt be in but in the same amount of time, i think not.

It's not the same Luppo, because again, you are not taking the number of shares on issue into consideration, or the fact that there were about 300 to 400 million less BRN shares on issue at that time.

You're not comparing apples with apples.

58 cents to $2.32 is a 400% increase in SP and a 2.61 Billion dollar increase in MC (on 1.5 billion shares).
Which is an incredible increase!

AUD
$6 to $24 is a 400% increase in SP but only 1.06 Billion dollar increase in MC (on 60 million shares).

So to reach the same MC, is even "harder" in your eyes.

Market Capitalisation does matter.

It could easily go that much or more on the NASDAQ in the right conditions.

Remember "now" is not the year 2022, with near 1% interest rates and Covid stimulus money sloshing around everywhere.

However, despite what Leftist media would lead you to believe, the US is entering a period of Very Strong Growth.

Australia, through its backwater policies, will not experience this same growth.

Yes, BrainChip is a Global Company, but if it wants to gain the best advantage, of the Largest and Growing economy in the World, then it needs to be domiciled there, because of their "America First" policies.

We need to go where the action and money is.

 

[Wickedwolf]

Almost all seem down on a move to the US, I get the risks but also a massive potential upside.

what if any are the benefits of staying on ASX?

on ASX there is blatant daily price manipulation, all good news is met with a fall in price drop, only dividend stocks and mines are understood, after our ford warning the board are terrified to make any announcement.

To me the ASX is a disaster and the sooner we move the better. All our potential and most of our customers are in the states.

 

[Luppo71]

It's not the same Luppo, because again, you are not taking the number of shares on issue into consideration, or the fact that there were about 300 to 400 million less BRN shares on issue at that time.

You're not comparing apples with apples.

58 cents to $2.32 is a 400% increase in SP and a 2.61 Billion dollar increase in MC (on 1.5 billion shares).
Which is an incredible increase!

AUD
$6 to $24 is a 400% increase in SP but only 1.06 Billion dollar increase in MC (on 60 million shares).

So to reach the same MC, is even "harder" in your eyes.

Market Capitalisation does matter.

It could easily go that much or more on the NASDAQ in the right conditions.

Remember "now" is not the year 2022, with near 1% interest rates and Covid stimulus money sloshing around everywhere.

However, despite what Leftist media would lead you to believe, the US is entering a period of Very Strong Growth.

Australia, through its backwater policies, will not experience this same growth.

Yes, BrainChip is a Global Company, but if it wants to gain the best advantage, of the Largest and Growing economy in the World, then it needs to be domiciled there, because of their "America First" policies.

We need to go where the action and money is.

Yep that's where the cash is and I am not saying that can't happen over time.
I'm saying it can't happen in the same.timeframe which is the whole point of my post.
400% in under 20 days.

Hope it proves me wrong.

 

[Iseki]

Almost all seem down on a move to the US, I get the risks but also a massive potential upside.

what if any are the benefits of staying on ASX?

on ASX there is blatant daily price manipulation, all good news is met with a fall in price drop, only dividend stocks and mines are understood, after our ford warning the board are terrified to make any announcement.

To me the ASX is a disaster and the sooner we move the better. All our potential and most of our customers are in the states.

The share price can easily rocket up to $2.50 on the ASX IF there is some news of on-going revenue, as we have seen.
The ASX has rules making sure that existing shareholders aren't diluted out by having a 15% limit on the new shares that can be issued in a year.
The ASX offers a way for serious cornerstone industry investors located in US to invest in BRN, just as any US exchange would.
The ASX offers ways for BRN to be a part on any international Tech Index, just as any US exchange would.
The ASX in US/EU neutral. This means we can do deals with AirBus and RTX.

Let the clients decide. If there is a client out there thjat could "make us profitable from day one", and we can only get them by moving to US, then that is a different question.