Carlos Danger
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You may not like who he's biting but the lion is finally showing his teeth imo
AVZ Discussion 2022
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Hi Spikerama
The solution may be to let the DRC govt chair the meeting with agenda input from all vested parties. In that way the meeting and its outcomes (if any) have the imprimatur of government. Hopefully, just another couple of meetings will achieve a solid base on which to move forward.
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I hope they have stopped spending money on site as all share holders should be paying for any work on site not just avz. Will we be compensated for last lot of drilling and site work? I wouldn't think so.
That’s a great way to move forward, but easier said than done when dickheads are involved. It seems like African politicians have more greed than the Chinese.
I like scarpas thought and feel similar about the situation. I does sound like government is saying they want a mine, figure it out and get on with it. I wonder if this was the government saying, we’ll remove the split and put 13359 back in one piece, you sort out ownership on your own. If they can’t work out current problems, how would they all ever agree on how to build a mine or how to start? They would still be bitching back and forth years from now, useless Felix would not have his battery chain come true and the local people would be rolled further into the gutter.
The lack of support from government or even anything at all from them is horseshit. This could have and should have been resolved 9 months ago if Felix really wanted to stomp on corruption and make a statement. I think the president has kept his ass out of this to keep support for the upcoming election, or because he is also corrupt. I think probably both. He is trying to play both sides of the field to look good internationally and keep himself in the president’s chair.
The only positive spin I can make up is something seems to be changing and government wants it to happen. Good or bad for us, who knows. This is just something that been running through my head based on pretty much nothing.
My son decided to use the toilet with out lifting the lid. That’s right, he sat down and took a shit on top of the toilet. I don’t know why, but I can probably make more sense of that, then the clusterfuck we are all in.
Stay well everyone, keep your chin up. Hopefully some clarification in the coming days.
Well, I’m of to clean up poo. At least it’s not a pineapple in the ass.
Agreed.
Personally - even though it has been a shit show with all the fake news, corruption, shit coming out of the wood works. I'm, somewhat, glad that it has happened now, rather than when we have the ML and are on the way to commissioning the mine.
Not sure if there would have been any difference from a legal stand point if the disputes happened now vs later on - however i'd rather the 'dirty laundry' be hung up now so we have a clean run.
Imagine if the mine had been completed and they tried this shit - that, imo, woudl have been a lot worse.
Agreed, doesn’t seem like they could get close to him before. Even with consultants and lawyers, why would they have better luck now?
yes, then everyone in attendance would be fully aware and perhaps Felix would be forced to intervene.
Spikerama
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Yep mate I'm with you. One would hope. But trust me. I have lived and worked in Africa. Not DRC but East Africa.
Kenya, Nigeria, Tanzania, Mozambique.
I've worked with the highest levels of Gov. And getting a meeting with them, even when they want something done, isn't as easy as it should be. Basically because they have so much shit going on and it's a fucking horror show.
Not saying that is the same for the DRC but all the evidence so far doesn't paint a better picture sadly.
Ive made it fairly clear my complete disdain for Felix."Clearly Nigel should have been on the ground the last 3 years, not in Perth. Thats how you earn the PR’s. At least he could have said “I tried”. If he had been there all the time."
Sorry, thats a ridiculous statement to make, are you forgetting there was a PANDEMIC squeezed in that equation which ravaged thru the worlds population ?
Criticise the AVZ bod all you like regards to CONTINUOUS DISCLOSURE and Nigels CONFLICT OF INTEREST, but you certainly cant blame them for coming back home for COVID reasons.........
For me, the real arseholes in this enormous shit show is Zijin / Cominiere / Dathomir / Cong but more importantly, the impotent president FT, who should of re shuffled / weeded out the corrupt wankers that existed in his cabinet from the previous Kabila regime when he attained power in 2019, who ironically misled him to believe that AVZ " was not worthy " of being awarded a ML, which gives me the strongest impression that he wasnt following the progression of the biggest hard rock lithium play which would transform his country........instead, FT preferred to travel around the globe, seminar to seminar, preaching his bull shit that DRC was the destination / solution for the EV revolution ........
Now FT has the audacity to bypass the IGF report, pass the buck back to AVZ urging them to harmonise the Dathcom registry in order to attain the ML.
FT has left AVZ out to dry, completely disrespecting a coy that has done all the hard yards by the book, spent 100s of millions of dollars to attain a favourable DFS , build accomodation, preliminary earth works and continue to drill out RD to further refine .
So Modo, you should be concentrating your vent on FT, his corrupt ministers, the corrupt chinese actors, not solely on AVZ bod.
This is not a emotional post...........just underlining the facts for you champ.
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I give it to you 2020 was a right off, but travel exceptions for Business in 2021 was allowed, yes a bit of trouble but thats what he is being remunerated well for.
As for 2022, no excuse, and this appears to be when a lot of AVZ woes began, on the ground in the DRC.
How much time did Nigel spend in 2022 in the DRC? The companies one and only asset is located there.
Spikerama
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That’s a great way to move forward, but easier said than done when dickheads are involved. It seems like African politicians have more greed than the Chinese.
I like scarpas thought and feel similar about the situation. I does sound like government is saying they want a mine, figure it out and get on with it. I wonder if this was the government saying, we’ll remove the split and put 13359 back in one piece, you sort out ownership on your own. If they can’t work out current problems, how would they all ever agree on how to build a mine or how to start? They would still be bitching back and forth years from now, useless Felix would not have his battery chain come true and the local people would be rolled further into the gutter.
The lack of support from government or even anything at all from them is horseshit. This could have and should have been resolved 9 months ago if Felix really wanted to stomp on corruption and make a statement. I think the president has kept his ass out of this to keep support for the upcoming election, or because he is also corrupt. I think probably both. He is trying to play both sides of the field to look good internationally and keep himself in the president’s chair.
The only positive spin I can make up is something seems to be changing and government wants it to happen. Good or bad for us, who knows. This is just something that been running through my head based on pretty much nothing.
My son decided to use the toilet with out lifting the lid. That’s right, he sat down and took a shit on top of the toilet. I don’t know why, but I can probably make more sense of that, then the clusterfuck we are all in.
Stay well everyone, keep your chin up. Hopefully some clarification in the coming days.
Well, I’m of to clean up poo. At least it’s not a pineapple in the ass.
Your Son, taking a shit on the lid. He's the Son of Rambo! What do expect him to do?
Remark
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Hahaha. Thanks, that gave me a good laugh. Guess I forgot who I (he) is.
Carlos Danger
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Hahaha. He’s just turned six. It could have come from a 21 yo, it was like squished 2x4.
That lion still looks like a pussy-cat to me.
MoneyBags1348
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Just starting to go through the pages Charbella, so won't be able to give a proper answer until I get through about the 6 or 7 pages after your post to me.... but at this stage I'm losing interest fast. Too much complaining from what I'm seeing and not enough focus on actually helping AVZ.
If I was going to be blaming anyone for our situation I would be starting to put a greater portion of it on Christian Lukusa (Momentum Attorneys) and Marius Mushagalusa Mihigi.... our Attorney and Strategic Advisor.
Apart from that, I would be putting in the headlines every document that states Cominiere have acted illegally and fraudulently and that their Director General and Technical Director have been charged with these crimes
PS.... It's MoneyBags or just Bags
I like it when people use correct grammar, one day people here will start posting "I should have".... not "I should of"
After all, I started using paragraphs when someone asked me to, it's the little things that make a difference.... But that's just me I guess
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I believe the hatched job was mainly orchestrated mid 2021, ut happy to be corrected on that.
Imo
Question is can AVZ offer for 15% off Cominiere be a better offer than Zijin.
Yes as Obe pointed out .
AVZ have first right of refusal but will shareholders be privy to the offers being made?
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