AVZ Discussion 2022

[Shire]

Tolate posting endless mindless dribble on HC and restating legal cases over and over again is bordering on defamation. When AVZ is bought out I would be happy for Nigel to retain some funds to go after Tolate.

Was it ever confirmed that Tolate is Leonard?

He/she has some serious issues - they need to seek professional help.

 

[M.Bison]

Tolate posting endless mindless dribble on HC and restating legal cases over and over again is bordering on defamation. When AVZ is bought out I would be happy for Nigel to retain some funds to go after Tolate.

Was it ever confirmed that Tolate is Leonard?

He/she has some serious issues - they need to seek professional help.

Last person I’d be thinking about is that gimp if we get bought out.

 

[Samus]

Last person I’d be thinking about is that gimp if we get bought out.

Best go after Zijin, put a complete stop to their operations and sue the fuck out of them. They've been operating illegally since the interim orders handed down at the ICSID.
Now that would really be satisfying.

 

[j.l]

https://x.com/i/status/1999820831745032283

 

[marksmann007]

 

[marksmann007]

URGENT : WHY KAGAME IS LEAVING UVIRA – THE BACKSTORY OF A FORCED RETREAT BY THE USA (Read to the end) Match eza woooo

Since the capture of Uvira, many thought Kagame was advancing on familiar ground, as usual.

His calculation: test the reaction of the United States, convinced that the silent support of certain networks would protect him once again.

But this time, the scenario collapses. And here's why.

️️️️️️--------------------------
THE CALL FROM THE U.S. VICE PRESIDENT: THE TURNING POINT

Monday, around 4 p.m. American time, the Vice President of the United States had a direct and firm exchange with Kagame.

According to reliable sources, the message was clear: if he does not withdraw quickly from Uvira, the consequences will be immediate, severe, and irreversible.

Here are some measures put on the table:

1. Threat of removing Rwanda from the SWIFT system

This is the most dreaded sanction in the world.

That would mean:

- paralysis of the Rwandan banking system,
- blockage of international transactions,
- inability for RwandAir to operate normally,
- blockage of Visa/Mastercard payments across the country,
- near-total halt of exports, especially minerals.

In short: immediate economic collapse.

2. Suspension of the U.S. diplomatic presence in Kigali

Washington has warned:
“If the war continues, the U.S. embassy in Rwanda will be relocated to Kenya.”

For a regime that bets everything on its image, this would be a major diplomatic slap in the face.

3. Strengthened individual sanctions

Sanctions targeting:

Kagame himself, members of his family, military officials, and the financial circuits used to fund the war.

According to a diplomatic source:
« The United States is ready to go very far to dismantle his system of regional destabilization. »

️️️️️️--------------------------
KAGAME BACKS DOWN AND ORDERS A WITHDRAWAL SIGNAL

After this call, Kagame immediately asked Corneille Nangaa to issue a political letter announcing a change in posture.

So rushed that:
the first version contained an erroneous date (November 2025), proof of internal panic, before the date was corrected a few hours later.

️️️️️️--------------------------
WHAT WAS PLANNED TODAY IN UVIRA

While several AFC leaders were already in Uvira to organize:

a “peace march,” neighborhood mobilization, and a political communication attempt to cover up their atrocities…

… Washington demanded a return to the red line:
The M23 must withdraw as far as Kamanyola, as before, and the RDF must leave the DRC

️️️️️️--------------------------
KINSHASA'S POSITION AND THE ROLE OF ALLIES

Kinshasa has reaffirmed that the total withdrawal must occur up to the former lines,

Madame @kayikwambaT continues the mediation,

And according to Washington, Kagame must withdraw all his troops from Congolese territory quickly,
in accordance with the commitments recently recalled by the American president.

 

[Dave Evans]

URGENT : WHY KAGAME IS LEAVING UVIRA – THE BACKSTORY OF A FORCED RETREAT BY THE USA (Read to the end) Match eza woooo

Since the capture of Uvira, many thought Kagame was advancing on familiar ground, as usual.

His calculation: test the reaction of the United States, convinced that the silent support of certain networks would protect him once again.

But this time, the scenario collapses. And here's why.

️️️️️️--------------------------
THE CALL FROM THE U.S. VICE PRESIDENT: THE TURNING POINT

Monday, around 4 p.m. American time, the Vice President of the United States had a direct and firm exchange with Kagame.

According to reliable sources, the message was clear: if he does not withdraw quickly from Uvira, the consequences will be immediate, severe, and irreversible.

Here are some measures put on the table:

1. Threat of removing Rwanda from the SWIFT system

This is the most dreaded sanction in the world.

That would mean:

- paralysis of the Rwandan banking system,
- blockage of international transactions,
- inability for RwandAir to operate normally,
- blockage of Visa/Mastercard payments across the country,
- near-total halt of exports, especially minerals.

In short: immediate economic collapse.

2. Suspension of the U.S. diplomatic presence in Kigali

Washington has warned:
“If the war continues, the U.S. embassy in Rwanda will be relocated to Kenya.”

For a regime that bets everything on its image, this would be a major diplomatic slap in the face.

3. Strengthened individual sanctions

Sanctions targeting:

Kagame himself, members of his family, military officials, and the financial circuits used to fund the war.

According to a diplomatic source:
« The United States is ready to go very far to dismantle his system of regional destabilization. »

️️️️️️--------------------------
KAGAME BACKS DOWN AND ORDERS A WITHDRAWAL SIGNAL

After this call, Kagame immediately asked Corneille Nangaa to issue a political letter announcing a change in posture.

So rushed that:
the first version contained an erroneous date (November 2025), proof of internal panic, before the date was corrected a few hours later.

️️️️️️--------------------------
WHAT WAS PLANNED TODAY IN UVIRA

While several AFC leaders were already in Uvira to organize:

a “peace march,” neighborhood mobilization, and a political communication attempt to cover up their atrocities…

… Washington demanded a return to the red line:
The M23 must withdraw as far as Kamanyola, as before, and the RDF must leave the DRC

️️️️️️--------------------------
KINSHASA'S POSITION AND THE ROLE OF ALLIES

Kinshasa has reaffirmed that the total withdrawal must occur up to the former lines,

Madame @kayikwambaT continues the mediation,

And according to Washington, Kagame must withdraw all his troops from Congolese territory quickly,
in accordance with the commitments recently recalled by the American president.

A reliable source…. Was that a Congolese source

“So rushed that: the first version contained an erroneous date (November 2025), proof of internal panic, before the date was corrected a few hours later”

November 2025…. An erroneous date

Maybe someone should tell the author his post is erroneous

16/11/2025

U.S. Senior Advisor for Arab and African Affairs
@US_SrAdvisorAF

Today in Doha, the DRC and AFC/M23 signed a Framework for a Comprehensive Peace Agreement that charts a clear path toward a peace accord. Both sides agree to uphold the ceasefire, end hostilities, and address the root causes of the conflict. The Framework outlines eight core protocols for implementation, including the Prisoner Exchange Mechanism and the Ceasefire Monitoring and Verification Mechanism, as well as measures to expand humanitarian access, restore state authority, disarm and reintegrate armed groups, facilitate the safe return of internally displaced persons and refugees, rebuild the economy, and deliver justice and reconciliation. Taken together, these obligations will strengthen the foundation for peace, stability, and the rebuilding of trust in affected communities. The United States applauds the Parties for this achievement and thanks Qatar for its facilitation of this process.




7:51 AM · Nov 16, 2025
29.3K Views

https://x.com/US_SrAdvisorAF/status/1989798537270526228?s=20


16/11/2025

KIKI KIENGE
@KiengeKki

Three key elements of the agreement to be concluded between Kinshasa and the AFC/M23 in Doha:

1. The progressive and coordinated (with the AFC/M23) restoration of the authority of the State, institutions, and State services.

2. The Congolese government and the AFC/M23 must agree to establish transitional security arrangements to ensure public order and protect civilians.

3. Kinshasa and the AFC/M23 must agree to the creation of an independent national commission tasked with promoting truth, reconciliation, and accountability for crimes, and recommending appropriate reparations. Source RFI Kiki #Kienge



3:43 AM · Nov 15, 2025
17.5K Views

https://x.com/KiengeKki/status/1989373608100040871

@marksmann007 it helps if you copy and paste the website link at the bottom of the post, makes it easier to go straight to the source

 

[yaseenmeoncebefore]

Fantastic news that M23 are at least withdrawing from Uvira. Previous to this, Rwanda and DRC seemed to both want to keep on doing what they were doing whilst blaming the other. This indicates that the US may be able to apply enough pressure for Rwanda/M23 to withdraw, which may lead to the DRC allowing USA access to minerals including Manono, which may in turn lead to a resolution/settlement for us.

Maybe they were in a huge rush, based on the pressure applied by the USA as suggested by the post above. Or they could have poor media releases lacking proper checks all the time. Who knows.

Original version with the erroneous date

Updated version

 

[marksmann007]

A reliable source…. Was that a Congolese source

“So rushed that: the first version contained an erroneous date (November 2025), proof of internal panic, before the date was corrected a few hours later”

November 2025…. An erroneous date

Maybe someone should tell the author his post is erroneous

16/11/2025

U.S. Senior Advisor for Arab and African Affairs
@US_SrAdvisorAF

Today in Doha, the DRC and AFC/M23 signed a Framework for a Comprehensive Peace Agreement that charts a clear path toward a peace accord. Both sides agree to uphold the ceasefire, end hostilities, and address the root causes of the conflict. The Framework outlines eight core protocols for implementation, including the Prisoner Exchange Mechanism and the Ceasefire Monitoring and Verification Mechanism, as well as measures to expand humanitarian access, restore state authority, disarm and reintegrate armed groups, facilitate the safe return of internally displaced persons and refugees, rebuild the economy, and deliver justice and reconciliation. Taken together, these obligations will strengthen the foundation for peace, stability, and the rebuilding of trust in affected communities. The United States applauds the Parties for this achievement and thanks Qatar for its facilitation of this process.




7:51 AM · Nov 16, 2025
29.3K Views

https://x.com/US_SrAdvisorAF/status/1989798537270526228?s=20


16/11/2025

KIKI KIENGE
@KiengeKki

Three key elements of the agreement to be concluded between Kinshasa and the AFC/M23 in Doha:

1. The progressive and coordinated (with the AFC/M23) restoration of the authority of the State, institutions, and State services.

2. The Congolese government and the AFC/M23 must agree to establish transitional security arrangements to ensure public order and protect civilians.

3. Kinshasa and the AFC/M23 must agree to the creation of an independent national commission tasked with promoting truth, reconciliation, and accountability for crimes, and recommending appropriate reparations. Source RFI Kiki #Kienge



3:43 AM · Nov 15, 2025
17.5K Views

https://x.com/KiengeKki/status/1989373608100040871

@marksmann007 it helps if you copy and paste the website link at the bottom of the post, makes it easier to go straight to the source

Hi Dave, my apologies for missing the posters details on my copy & paste.
Yes I realised after I posted it (uppercut).
He‘s a poster on X from the DRC with around 230k followers but I’m buggered if I can find the post again with the limited time I have this morning before work.

 

[Xerof]

 

[Xerof]

 

[marksmann007]

 

[Rechnerhand]

 

[Roon]

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Its so infuriating reading this shit!

 

[hedrox]

M23 armed group says it begins withdrawing from key DR Congo town of Uvira

Exclusive Al Jazeera footage shows fighters, military vehicles on the move as M23 spokespeople say withdrawal under way.

www.aljazeera.com

 

[hedrox]

RDC – Accord stratégique avec les États-Unis : CNPAV et CAMV demandent transparence et équité | CNPAV (Le Congo n'est pas à vendre)

corruptiontue.org

 

[hedrox]

https://www.expobetonrdc.com/documentation/2026/S_FR_V4_Brochure_ExpoBetonRDC_Kalemie_2026.pdf?fbclid=IwY2xjawOwMhFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEee2kW4Jm8GedEfZubQ0BmYJf8vEJcOiMCOnCDYuPtXptxj1GFUzlGJ2lsrVo_aem_Cg2EpgCOCYcrc5VDaV1FCg

 

[ozmacca]

https://www.expobetonrdc.com/documentation/2026/S_FR_V4_Brochure_ExpoBetonRDC_Kalemie_2026.pdf?fbclid=IwY2xjawOwMhFleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZBAyMjIwMzkxNzg4MjAwODkyAAEee2kW4Jm8GedEfZubQ0BmYJf8vEJcOiMCOnCDYuPtXptxj1GFUzlGJ2lsrVo_aem_Cg2EpgCOCYcrc5VDaV1FCg

These pricks are unbelievable...

"Flagship projects include the Manono Northeast Lithium Project (Zijin Mining), the Manono-Kitolo project (involving AVZ Minerals and Cominière), and the seven lithium exploration permits granted to KoBold Metals in August 2025 (four in the Manono Territory, Tanganyika), backed by US billionaire Bill Gates. KoBold also holds permits for the exploration of lithium, manganese, tin, and tantalum. In July 2025, KoBold secured an agreement for the disputed Manono deposit, resolving disputes with AVZ."

 

[Jongo]

These pricks are unbelievable...

"Flagship projects include the Manono Northeast Lithium Project (Zijin Mining), the Manono-Kitolo project (involving AVZ Minerals and Cominière), and the seven lithium exploration permits granted to KoBold Metals in August 2025 (four in the Manono Territory, Tanganyika), backed by US billionaire Bill Gates. KoBold also holds permits for the exploration of lithium, manganese, tin, and tantalum. In July 2025, KoBold secured an agreement for the disputed Manono deposit, resolving disputes with AVZ."

At least AVZ is still very firmly in the picture ... and not long now I think.

 

[wombat74]

At least AVZ is still very firmly in the picture ... and not long now I think.

Kobold incoming with a better offer ? JV with ??? Circle the wagons .