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Samus

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Indeed, perhaps also good news for us given MoP (the green mamba) seems to be digging herself a big hole:

'On November 7, 2022, Her Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio held a press conference and announced that the interests of the State defended through COMINIERE, that moreover AVZ has not undertaken anything on the ground since joining Dathcom Mine 6 years ago.'

Wonder if that is the same COMINIERE whose executives are said to have been arrested for illegally selling Dathcom shares to Zigin Mining for peanuts on the dollar and then keeping the money for themselves :unsure:

Should be an interesting weekend starting tonight when hopefully some local articles go into more detail on these charges.



The CEO and the DT of Cominiere were finally arrested by the courts for having, according to the documented report of the IGF, sold at a low price, the shares of this state-owned company in a large lithium project. We demanded their arrest earlier. At the Min portfolio to prepare.
 
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Winenut

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Indeed, perhaps also good news for us given MoP (the green mamba) seems to be digging herself a big hole:

'On November 7, 2022, Her Excellency the Minister of State, Minister of the Portfolio held a press conference and announced that the interests of the State defended through COMINIERE, that moreover AVZ has not undertaken anything on the ground since joining Dathcom Mine 6 years ago.'

Wonder if that is the same COMINIERE whose executives are said to have been arrested for illegally selling Dathcom shares to Zigin Mining for peanuts on the dollar and then keeping the money for themselves :unsure:

Should be an interesting weekend starting tonight when hopefully some local articles go into more detail on these charges.



The CEO and the DT of Cominiere were finally arrested by the courts for having, according to the documented report of the IGF, sold at a low price, the shares of this state-owned company in a large lithium project. We demanded their arrest earlier. At the Min portfolio to prepare.


My only issue is they haven't said the sale was illegal and should not have been allowed....they're basically saying the people involved sold it at a low price and maybe squandered or misused the proceeds

There seems to be no voice at the moment saying the sale will not be allowed to stand or that it will be overturned
 
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Samus

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My only issue is they haven't said the sale was illegal and should not have been allowed....they're basically saying the people involved sold it at a low price and maybe squandered or misused the proceeds

There seems to be no voice at the moment saying the sale will not be allowed to stand or that it will be overturned
Hopefully some more details forthcoming, only so much you can fit in a tweet. These NGO's seem to be on top of the details for the most part.

3. TO THE MINISTER OF PORTFOLIO
- To stop sowing confusion and playing a role that blocks the development of the mining project of
Dathcom Mining SA and take into account the conclusions of the IGF roadmap (Report) on
his bad role in the illegal sale of 15% of the shares to a Zijin company as well as the sell-off
of the assets of Cominière SA by its interim management, then draw all the conclusions of fact
and by law;
- To respect and support the Memorandum of Understanding signed by the Government of the Republic,
through the Minister in charge of the energy sector, and AVZ POWER SAU for the rehabilitation of
Mpiana-Mwanga power stations;
- To stop taking sides with a private company (Dathomir Mining Resources SARLU) in its
commercial dispute with AVZ International Pty Ltd nor for the Chinese group Zijin, beneficiary of a
sale of Cominière SA shares qualified as illegal by the Report of the General Inspectorate of
Finance, with all the risks of undermining the efforts of His Excellency Mr.
President of the Republic and Head of State for a healthier business climate and the rule of law;
- To proceed urgently, in the name of the higher interest of the nation and in respect of the vision
of the Head of State, to the recruitment by selective test of State agents who can manage
rationally with productive governance this state mining company whose assets
serve only a small group of individuals identified by reports from other organizations not
governmental.

 
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JAG

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wombat74

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This all looks promising. Is our only source Twitter ? If so I call it BS until proven otherwise. A warrant for their arrest . Where's the photos? I'm guessing they aren't hiding out in mountains with the gorillas .
 
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JNRB

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I'm not sure gifts to Frank is the right appearance to thanks him for reporting on corruption and gifts...🤔

Maybe a donation to charity of his choice...
I think people took the idea of a gift a little too literally.

But donating to a charity he wants to support is a great idea.
Is anyone on here in contact with him?
 
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JNRB

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My only issue is they haven't said the sale was illegal and should not have been allowed....they're basically saying the people involved sold it at a low price and maybe squandered or misused the proceeds

There seems to be no voice at the moment saying the sale will not be allowed to stand or that it will be overturned
I didn't want to be a downer but yeah I was thinking the same.
It's good to get these crooks out but hopefully we're still able to unwind the dodgy actions that got then in trouble.
We shall see.
 
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JAG

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BEISHA

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" He accuses them of mismanagement of funds resulting from the sale of 15% of shares to a chinese coy "

I gotta agree with @Winenut , concerns me that it only references " mismanagement " of the sale, not the ILLEGAL SALE in itself.

I got a giggle when it states COMINIERE is only a " young " coy, formulated in 2010............its fucking 12 yrs in existence and should know the LAW ...............young or old !!!


What a disgrace this coy is .........an indictment to the DRC and a juxtaposition to what Felix is trying to sell to the world !!


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Spikerama

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I think people took the idea of a gift a little too literally.

But donating to a charity he wants to support is a great idea.
Is anyone on here in contact with hi
I would recommend not even suggesting gifts or donations or anything connected to Franck at this point.

Unlike a volunteer school coach Franck is a journalist who has the ability to influence en masse. So it would be wise for him to not be seen to be influenced by wagers, charity et al

Just saying.

Do what I did and get on the bird and personally thank him for all his efforts. He would appreciate it I'm sure.
 
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Samus

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Anyone else reading so much French that their phone now wants to translate everything to French all of the time? :unsure:
 
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9cardomaha

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This all looks promising. Is our only source Twitter ? If so I call it BS until proven otherwise. A warrant for their arrest . Where's the photos? I'm guessing they aren't hiding out in mountains with the gorillas .
The news is pretty hard not to be positive on, so maybe some upper class pink salt? I'll share with you Wombat and any others who would like a pinch just to tide us over till something outside of twitter confirms :D

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Bin59

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An interesting observation by Constantin -

 
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Scoota30

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Looks like the election will take place in 12.5 months so we should get the ML anywhere from now until then!


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wombat74

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Wombie that’s another mistake you’re making, alongside of opting out of having a dance with Nells…. especially after all the work I put in to organise it!

Time to relax and have a renewed sense of hope and humour my good man

Here’s something I put on the Corruption thread a while back…. Nothing like the power of voodoo in an African country

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I'm guessing after Nells' recent photo her private message box is full of potential dance partners . Choose carefully Nells .
 
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Samus

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Manono: Lithium Gate? Arrest of the CEO of COMINIERE for illegal sale of 15% of the shares to the Chinese of Zijin, 116 Million $US loss.​

November 26, 2022
Kiki Kienge

By Kiki Kienge
With this action of the Congolese justice, is this the beginning of the release in the exploitation of the lithium of Manono by AVZ Minerals?
It is on the basis of a report from the IGF (Inspection Générale des Finances) filed with the Gombe Court of Appeal since April 21, 2022, that the Kinshasa Attorney General ordered the arrest of the Director General and technical director of COMINIERE SA, Athanase Mwamba and Célestin Kibeya .
Something confirmed even by the ACAJ (Congolese Association for Access to Justice) in a Tweet;
"The Prosecutor General of Kinshasa/Gombe has just ordered the arrest of the General Manager and Technical Director of the public company COMINIERE SA. He accuses them of the "mismanagement" of the funds resulting from the sale of 15% of shares to a company Chinese. »
The IGF report had concluded in a fraudulent sale of 15% of the shares of the Congolese State to the Chinese company Zijin, the Cominiere had sold to the Chinese of Zijing at 33.440 Million $US precisely shares which were worth 150 million $US , a loss of US$116,560,000 million for the coffers of the Congolese State;
“The sale of the 15% of the shares of COMINIERE in DATHCOM Mining to ZIJIN Mining was carried out in violation of the legal provisions on the withdrawal of the State from the companies in the Portfolio (…)”
At this point according to the IGF report which considers illegal the sales of 15% to Zijing and 5% to MMS, AVZ would own 75% (with 15% of Dathomir) of the shares in Datcom and the Congolese State 25% .
In genesis in the exploitation of lithium in Manono, there was the joint venture company between COMINIERE and DATHOMIR of the Chinese Simon Cong owner of the Kempinski hotel river in Kinshasa which gave birth to DATHCOM, with respectively 30% in the Congolese State and 70% for the Chinese. The Australians of AVZ Minerals will buy 60% of its shares in Dathcom and will obtain in particular 5% of surplus from the Congolese State for social achievements, such as the construction of roads, schools, hospitals...
Later AVZ Minerals following an agreement with Dathomir came into possession of 15% of the company of the Chinese Simon Cong, but here after the filing of the exploitation permit and the rise in the price of the shares of AVZ Minerals on the stock market, Simon Cong reconsiders its signing of the sales contract with AVZ Minerals and wants to regain possession of the 15%.

5 years after Cominiere through its general manager, accuses AVZ Minerals of having achieved nothing in Manono and sells "Illegally" to the detriment of the Congolese State 15% of its shares to the Chinese company Zijing, which is keen to return at all costs to the exploitation of lithium in Manono;
“The sale of the 15% to the Zijing group, has caused, with regard to the evaluations made in the feasibility study, a significant shortfall for the Public Treasury estimated at 116,560,000 $US. It was a real sale of the State's mining heritage, for which you are responsible. » IGF report.
The Chinese company, Zijing had in particular recognized the illegal sale and had decided to reimburse the 15% to the Congolese State without claiming anything in return, as this video demonstrates;

The IGF report singles out the sale of COMINIERE's 5% stake in DATHCOM to MMS;
"The presumed free and provisional transfer of 5% of COMINIERE's shares in DATHCOM Mining to DATHOMIR Mining SARL, but which with regard to the transfer contract, was final and irrevocable without the income from the transfer being traced to COMINIERE . »
According to a source, many names appear in the IGF report, in particular some political and institutional personalities, with the arrest of the two directors of Cominiere, it would only be the beginning of Manono Gate

 
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oxxa23

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Great post.
Been saying it for a few weeks but only a few others seem to agree.

So we just get endless random shit from twatter, posted by retards who are famous because.. why??
Oh yes, because they post what people wanna read on twatter.

That's then regurgitated here because if it was not then there would be virtually no news. Good or bad.

Because nothing of substance is happening in DRC to right this massive wrong.

This thread has become a shrine to AVZ confirmation bias.

We await the next ' news' from DRC which like all of the other news will amount to half of fuck all.
Pull your head in... having a go at people for having some hope that things are on the turn... not everyone has to think never-ending doom and gloom...

A couple of people have worked their arse off via twitter for justice (and coincidentally avz) and you call them retards...shit form.

Chill and stop reading shit if you're going to not cope with it.

Whether you believe it or not, it appears (yes not proven) to be the first bit of real progress so far...
 
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DoubleA

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There is no 15% to take back from Zijin. Zijin never held any percentage of Dathcom. Zijin attempted to fraudulently obtain a percentage and failed. The individuals who attempted to make the sale have been ordered to be arrested. This was confirmed by the ACAJ (Congolese Association for Access to Justice).

Prosecutor General of Kinshasa/Gombe has just ordered the arrest of the General Manager and Technical Director of the public company COMINIERE SA.

COMINIERE SA
were also one of the main culprits who have been trying to delay the project in other ways. It is fantastic news that two people at the top are being arrested.
 
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