AVZ Discussion 2022

pow4ade

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Mate can you stop with this fucking shit yeah?

Do you have any understanding of how vile and offensive this is to people living and working in DRC and not withstanding, African nations in general?

What the fuck are you thinking? Have you lost your mind or are too pissed up to give a fuck? Is that it?

I have lived and worked in Africa for years and this kind of thing, though you seem to think that it's harmless and all "good fun" is a so called "private forum" you are just fuelling the machine to add another log to the fire of everything that is running against us right now.

Are you fucking kidding me? Really?

Here's an example. I nearly got fired for talking about "native apps" on a phone for a Kenyan telco client. Which I might add offered a service that bundled apps into an aggregate offer on a free device with a plan. Because I referred to the apps as being "native" to the device.

That's how fucking sensitive they are.

So once again for the dummies. We know that detractors are scouring and listening the everything we say and willing to re post it on other social platforms to prove somehow, how much hate we supposedly have for con gollese.

You think it's funny? It's not mate. Not in the slightest. It's not even clever.

Lay off the piss. Grab your coat and stick to posting pictures of yourself looking like a wanker holding fire arms or some shit.

At least then everyone gets a laugh without any damage done.
Hear hear, couldn't agree more. Posting nasty images like this is not only infantile and highly offensive but damaging to our brand. No class. The posts should be removed forthwith.
 
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Hear hear, couldn't agree more. Posting nasty images like this is not only infantile and highly offensive but damaging to our brand. No class. The posts should be removed forthwith.
I agree(not that it matters), not helping the cause.
 
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CashKing

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Ohh Fuck, Sunday should be fun 🤩

Remember guys and gals we are all going through this shit together, let’s not attack each other too much while we wait for news…

Calling someone out if fair then ok, but we all have our own way of expressing things you could say….

Nige this ain’t healthy for anyone, Please sort it out ASAP…..

GLTAH
 
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  • Manono: Lithium Gate? Arrest of the CEO of COMINIERE for illegal sale of 15% of the shares to the Chinese of Zijin, 116 Million $US loss.
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MANONO GATE!
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Manono: Lithium Gate? Arrest of the CEO of COMINIERE for illegal sale of 15% of the shares to the Chinese of Zijin, 116 Million $US loss.​

November 26, 2022
Kiki Kienge

By Kiki Kienge
With this action of the Congolese justice, is this the beginning of the release in the exploitation of the lithium of Manono by AVZ Minerals?
It is on the basis of a report from the IGF (Inspection Générale des Finances) filed with the Gombe Court of Appeal since April 21, 2022, that the Kinshasa Attorney General ordered the arrest of the Director General and technical director of COMINIERE SA, Athanase Mwamba and Célestin Kibeya .
Something confirmed even by the ACAJ (Congolese Association for Access to Justice) in a Tweet;
"The Prosecutor General of Kinshasa/Gombe has just ordered the arrest of the General Manager and Technical Director of the public company COMINIERE SA. He accuses them of the "mismanagement" of the funds resulting from the sale of 15% of shares to a company Chinese. »
The IGF report had concluded in a fraudulent sale of 15% of the shares of the Congolese State to the Chinese company Zijin, the Cominiere had sold to the Chinese of Zijing at 33.440 Million $US precisely shares which were worth 150 million $US , a loss of US$116,560,000 million for the coffers of the Congolese State;
“The sale of the 15% of the shares of COMINIERE in DATHCOM Mining to ZIJIN Mining was carried out in violation of the legal provisions on the withdrawal of the State from the companies in the Portfolio (…)”
At this point according to the IGF report which considers illegal the sales of 15% to Zijing and 5% to MMS, AVZ would own 75% (with 15% of Dathomir) of the shares in Datcom and the Congolese State 25% .
In genesis in the exploitation of lithium in Manono, there was the joint venture company between COMINIERE and DATHOMIR of the Chinese Simon Cong, owner of the Kempinski river hotel in Kinshasa, which gave birth to DATHCOM, with respectively 30% in the Congolese State and 70% for the Chinese. The Australians of AVZ Minerals will buy 60% of its shares in Dathcom and will obtain in particular 5% of surplus from the Congolese State for social achievements, such as the construction of roads, schools, hospitals...
Later AVZ Minerals following an agreement with Dathomir came into possession of 15% of the company of the Chinese Simon Cong, but here after the filing of the exploitation permit and the rise in the price of the shares of AVZ Minerals on the stock market, Simon Cong reconsiders its signing of the sales contract with AVZ Minerals and wants to regain possession of the 15%.

5 years after Cominiere through its general manager, accuses AVZ Minerals of having achieved nothing in Manono and sells "Illegally" to the detriment of the Congolese State 15% of its shares to the Chinese company Zijing, which is keen to return at all costs to the exploitation of lithium in Manono;
“The sale of the 15% to the Zijing group, has caused with regard to the evaluations made in the feasibility study, a significant shortfall for the Public Treasury estimated at 116,560,000 $US. It was a real sale of the State's mining heritage, for which you are responsible. » IGF report.
The Chinese company, Zijing had in particular recognized the illegal sale and had decided to reimburse the 15% to the Congolese State without claiming anything in return, as this video demonstrates;

The IGF report singles out the sale of COMINIERE's 5% stake in DATHCOM to MMS;
"The presumed free and provisional transfer of 5% of COMINIERE's shares in DATHCOM Mining to DATHOMIR Mining SARL, but which with regard to the transfer contract, was final and irrevocable without the income from the transfer being traced to COMINIERE . »
According to a source, many names appear in the IGF report, in particular some political and institutional personalities, with the arrest of the two directors of Cominiere, it would only be the beginning of Manono Gate
 
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Following the decision of Gombe, it is possible that the team of the public ministry, of @adelekayinda01,
together with #CAMI, will soon be arrested for the case #COMINIERE and #Zijin .
We have to move forward with the #Lithium in the #Tanganika
 
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Manono Lithium: Cacophony of the Cominiere and silence of the government around the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power stations of Mpyana Mwanga l and II​

November 22, 2022
Kiki Kienge

By Kiki Kienge
This confusion created around the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power stations of Mpyana Mwanga I and II, risks further delaying the start of luthium production in Manono in the province of Tanganyka.

Currently, the start of lithium mining has not yet started following the blocking by the CAMI (Cadastre Minier) and its director, Félix Mupande, of the mining permit already granted by the Ministry of Mines to AVZ Minerals.
Remember that this delay Today causes the Australian company, AVZ Minerals, to lose more than US$1 million per day and the Congolese State to lose more than US$300,000.

Rehabilitation of power plants by AVZ POWER SAU
On January 13, 2020, the government of the Democratic Republic of Congo through the Ministry of Water Resources and Electricity, to sign a Memorandum of Understanding with AVZ POWER SAU to rehabilitate the Mpyana Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations.

The rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power stations of Mpyana Mwanga I and II, must be used to supply electrical energy to the AVZ Minerals lithium exploitation plant, to public and private schools, to hospitals and to the installation of the Eata Congolese .

From September 15, 2020, a delegation of technical agents went down to Manono for a technical and environmental assessment of the Piana Mwanga I and II power plants, under reference RHE/4/SG/0/1322/G9/ALS/2020, it was composed companies ; Congo Energy SA, Blue Phoenix, Stucky, CREC 8, International Montage Maintenance SA, Zest Weg Group, Groupe Muama Business SARL, WD Power, Power Line, Africa Services DRC SARL, TBEA Hengyan Transformer Co. Ltd and Tramico SARL .

On October 30, 2020, the expert mission sent its report to the Minister of Water Resources and Electricity.

On January 29, 2021, the Minister of Water Resources and Electricity signed a Ministerial Order establishing a technical monitoring committee for the rehabilitation project of the Mpiana-Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations with reference to No. 129/CAB/MIN/RHE/EMM/2021.

On the same day, January 29, the Minister signed another Ministerial Order No.130/CAB/MIN/RHE/EMM/2021 appointing the members of the Monitoring Committee for the rehabilitation project of the Mpiana-Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power plants by AVZ POWER SASU.

As a reminder, in this monitoring committee sits a representative or delegate of Cominière SA, a Congolese State company, which therefore represents the government in the rehabilitation of the Mpiana-Mwanga I and II hydroelectric power stations.
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Why is COMINIERE withdrawing?

In September of this year, COMINIERE SE launched a call for tenders on the grounds that the hydroelectric power stations of Mpiana-Mwanga I and II were abandoned. When it had already signed with AVZ POWER SAU a rehabilitation agreement approved even by the Minister of Water Resources and Electricity.

We are talking about the Chinese group, Zijin, which would have won the tender for the rehabilitation of the hydroelectric power station of Mpiana-Mwanga I and II. This same group which claims to have bought 15% of the shares of Dathcom from COMINIERE, something which the presidency in the investigation of the IGF (General Inspectorate of Finances) had deemed fraudulent and almost null, because the Congolese State had lost million US$ in this Deal between the Chinese of Zijing and COMINIERE.

But here are civil society organizations and platforms in the DR Congo monitoring human rights and the country's natural resource sector, calling on the Head of State Félix Tshisekedi and the government of the manipulations of COMINIERE and the silence of the Ministers of Portfolio, Mines and Hydraulic Resources and Electricity who will cause the Congolese State to lose millions more US$ and delay the exploitation of lithium in Manono as long awaited by the local population:

"Our organizations remind your Excellency that the Government of the Republic has signed a memorandum of understanding with AVZ POWER SAU, signed by your Ministry on January 13, 2020, to rehabilitate the power plants concerned in compliance with the laws of the country and international standards. in the sector in order to supply energy to Dathcom Mining SA for its mining operations as well as to public and private schools and hospitals (health centres) in Manono and its surroundings, not to mention a quantity to be used by the State for electrification of the city of Manono and Mpiana-Mwanga.
This vision of things is part of the development policy of His Excellency Félix-Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo, President of the Republic and Head of State, to electrify our villages and towns through public-private partnerships.

La Cominière SA has a representative who sits on the Technical Committee for Monitoring the execution of the said memorandum of understanding.

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For our signatory Citizen Organizations, signed by Franck Fwamba.
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ptlas

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Pull your head in... having a go at people for having some hope that things are on the turn... not everyone has to think never-ending doom and gloom...

A couple of people have worked their arse off via twitter for justice (and coincidentally avz) and you call them retards...shit form.

Chill and stop reading shit if you're going to not cope with it.

Whether you believe it or not, it appears (yes not proven) to be the first bit of real progress so far...
Don't like my opinions?
Put me on ignore

But don't tell me what I can and cannot post.

That's for the crapper.

Nothing concrete has happened to resolve these issueS.
Big plural.
Just rumours.

AVZ was complicit in these with the RS to head off a rebellion at the AGM.

Which indicates that they don't see a resolution any time soon.

If people are dumb enough to believe twitter and not wait for official AVZ announcements then there is little hope for them.

So pull your head in.
 
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Doc

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Don't like my opinions?
Put me on ignore

But don't tell me what I can and cannot post.

That's for the crapper.

Nothing concrete has happened to resolve these issueS.
Big plural.
Just rumours.

AVZ was complicit in these with the RS to head off a rebellion at the AGM.

Which indicates that they don't see a resolution any time soon.

If people are dumb enough to believe twitter and not wait for official AVZ announcements then there is little hope for them.

So pull your head in.
I beg to differ.
In my opinion AVZ had hoped to have the ML by the time the road shows rolled around and it was to be a victory tour of sorts.

Anyway let’s hope that the news coming out of DRC in the last 24hours is a stepping stone for REAL positive announcements in the future.
Not sure AVZ will announce via the ASX the arrests to be honest, while it’s great for us it’s not really for AVZ to announce
 
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ptlas

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I beg to differ.
In my opinion AVZ had hoped to have the ML by the time the road shows rolled around and it was to be a victory tour of sorts.

Anyway let’s hope that the news coming out of DRC in the last 24hours is a stepping stone for REAL positive announcements in the future.
Not sure AVZ will announce via the ASX the arrests to be honest, while it’s great for us it’s not really for AVZ to announce
Fair point.

My reasoning was that the whole thing is so opaque, with so many of the issues discussed on these threads still to be resolved, that AVZ could not at that point have had a reasonable handle on the timeline.

Regarding the last 24 hours, it appears to be progress but still a massively long way to go.
Hopefully, the first of many dominoes but I feel that I've been here before.
 
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Doc

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Fair point.

My reasoning was that the whole thing is so opaque, with so many of the issues discussed on these threads still to be resolved, that AVZ could not at that point have had a reasonable handle on the timeline.

Regarding the last 24 hours, it appears to be progress but still a massively long way to go.
Hopefully, the first of many dominoes but I feel that I've been here before.
100%. To me yesterday was the first real news to come out that can affect us.
CAMI IS the road block. Remove the road block and progress can be made. Until then it’s still all talk.
 
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Bin59

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Netoo’s thoughts on what is happening:
(the next Vidiye hearing is on 5 Dec)
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DiscoDanNZ

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I beg to differ.
In my opinion AVZ had hoped to have the ML by the time the road shows rolled around and it was to be a victory tour of sorts.

Anyway let’s hope that the news coming out of DRC in the last 24hours is a stepping stone for REAL positive announcements in the future.
Not sure AVZ will announce via the ASX the arrests to be honest, while it’s great for us it’s not really for AVZ to announce

Yeah I don't see them announcing it, not their style and wouldn't want to be seen as poking the bear as it's a matter for the DRC courts whom I'm sure we would want to be keeping on our side.

Looks like there's a few people on here getting a bit sensitive, everybody chill the fuck out and have a relaxing Sunday.

 
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Bin59

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National Assembly: The national elected declare admissible the land bill

novembre 25, 2022

Minister Aime Sakombi responding to MPs' concerns

Kinshasa, November 26th, 2022 (CPA) – The national elected declared admissible the draft land law, on Friday, during a plenary session at the people’s palace, after hearing, 48 hours later, elements of the minister’s responses of Land Affairs, Aime Sakombi Molendo to the concerns of elected officials.

« The land policy adopted by the government establishes a system of land tenure security for local communities through the establishment of a land information system articulated by the delimitation of land and the issuance of a collective land title », he said.

In his methodology, the minister grouped his responses into 8 themes, including the land tenure of local communities and the role of traditional authority; the civil and criminal responsibility of the registrar of real estate titles, the head of the cadastre division and the other agents under their responsibility as well as the problem of the probative force attached to the certificate of registration and the security of land and real estate transactions.

“The amending bill introduced, through articles 205 and 223, the principle of the civil and criminal liability of the registrar of real estate titles, the head of the cadastre division and the other agents under their direction”, said Aime Sakombi. .

Restriction of the right of acquisition of land by foreigners

Regarding the likelihood of foreigners having access to land, the Minister reaffirmed « the restriction of the right to acquire land by foreigners, the perpetual concession being reserved only for natural persons of Congolese nationality ».

Regarding the phenomenon of hoarding and grabbing of rural land, Minister Molendo said that the adverse effects of this phenomenon are crucial and even threaten the survival of our country. This calls for courageous measures to be taken by the national representation, he underlined.

The government plans to resolve this problem by initiating the legal review or development audit of all concessions granted over large areas.

The national deputies have declared this land bill admissible and are sending it to PAJ commission, which has 7 days to submit a revised text to the plenary. ACP/
 
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oxxa23

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I beg to differ.
In my opinion AVZ had hoped to have the ML by the time the road shows rolled around and it was to be a victory tour of sorts.

Anyway let’s hope that the news coming out of DRC in the last 24hours is a stepping stone for REAL positive announcements in the future.
Not sure AVZ will announce via the ASX the arrests to be honest, while it’s great for us it’s not really for AVZ to announce
Don't like my opinions?
Put me on ignore

But don't tell me what I can and cannot post.

That's for the crapper.

Nothing concrete has happened to resolve these issueS.
Big plural.
Just rumours.

AVZ was complicit in these with the RS to head off a rebellion at the AGM.

Which indicates that they don't see a resolution any time soon.

If people are dumb enough to believe twitter and not wait for official AVZ announcements then there is little hope for them.

So pull your head in.
It was nothing to do with your assessment of the news, it was to do with your sledging of those here and those fighting for avz on twitter... but you just keep going off...
 
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DiscoDanNZ

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What an odd thing to say...

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Bray

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She’s pretty big..

Also found out yesterday from the BHP SSE who’s geo friend is working in DRC.. is not on AVZ. SHATTERED
Korean Drama Crying GIF by The Swoon

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Mate can you stop with this fucking shit yeah?

Do you have any understanding of how vile and offensive this is to people living and working in DRC and not withstanding, African nations in general?

What the fuck are you thinking? Have you lost your mind or are too pissed up to give a fuck? Is that it?

I have lived and worked in Africa for years and this kind of thing, though you seem to think that it's harmless and all "good fun" is a so called "private forum" you are just fuelling the machine to add another log to the fire of everything that is running against us right now.

Are you fucking kidding me? Really?

Here's an example. I nearly got fired for talking about "native apps" on a phone for a Kenyan telco client. Which I might add offered a service that bundled apps into an aggregate offer on a free device with a plan. Because I referred to the apps as being "native" to the device.

That's how fucking sensitive they are.

So once again for the dummies. We know that detractors are scouring and listening the everything we say and willing to re post it on other social platforms to prove somehow, how much hate we supposedly have for con gollese.

You think it's funny? It's not mate. Not in the slightest. It's not even clever.

Lay off the piss. Grab your coat and stick to posting pictures of yourself looking like a wanker holding fire arms or some shit.

At least then everyone gets a laugh without any damage done.

I’ve deleted the posts for you mate, but next time don’t sugarcoat it ok, give it to me straight

The only time I drink is when I go out for dinner with my better half, so I don’t need that excuse for what I post.

Posts were directed as Athanase, Mupande and Kayinda not anyone else and I don’t joke about those things, I’ve had experience with them since I was a kid and I know the power behind them, unlike you

No comments yet about anyone calling the MoP bitchface or cunt though, guess you just don’t like me eh

That picture I post of Darth Sidious is just a joke I have with @Cashcity, nothing to do with AVZ or you so I don’t give a shit whether you think it’s funny or not.

Calling me a wanker on here is fine, I’ll give you my address if you want to do it in person
 
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Fair call re cunts, so I’ve reverted avatar from that cunt back to original cunt
 
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DiscoDanNZ

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Where is the love guys?

Your all acting like there isn't going to be a $2 Tranny Party and instead we will have a 10c Fight Club
 
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