AVZ Discussion 2022

[TDITD]

Question is, who really wants and can trust their money being tied up in the DRC moving forward? Herein lies the problem imo.
We need to maintain 100% of 13359 and 75% of Dathcom after the shitshow, that'd be a start of getting some faith back in this company and in the DRC. You know having what we legally had in the first place?
I mean they're pretty fucking hopeless really huh? Why is JFMK able to hold up a major project without a peep from anybody?
How come MOM isn't saying anything. Where is the Presidential order to hurry the fuck up?
How come we only hear from the detractors in the government and they're able to flood the media with their bullshit?
The place is a fucking joke tbh.

Hard to disagree.

We definitely should have what we originally had, throw in the extra 15% would be a start along with MOP an Mupande gone, I'd be happy with that for a start and of course ML.

The fact nobody but Jules Alingete has spoken remotely supporting AVZ is a fucking travesty. But also telling that the most honest guy around is on our side per-say. If Felix isn't full of shit about his corruption policies then that's a big plus.
To be fair they have now shut up the green mumba spewing her lies. We are still treated to a BS news article every now and again.

 

[BEISHA]

Yep management were hoodwinked. But end of the day problem is they agreed to it somehow. It looks like Klaus and Mupande in leauge with Zijin who they were to sell it to hatched this plan, MOP being involved to probably or at least got a cut due to her facilitating AJN. Agree that's shocking we didn't think to check it out properly as it's one hell of an ask and also Mupande has a terrible reputation ffs.

Was Avz management hood winked or negligent?

With such a important doco , you would of thought the Avz lawyers would of been all over it before signing......

 

[Hemicuda]

Question is, who really wants and can trust their money being tied up in the DRC moving forward? Herein lies the problem imo.
We need to maintain 100% of 13359 and 75% of Dathcom after the shitshow, that'd be a start of getting some faith back in this company and in the DRC. You know having what we legally had in the first place?
I mean they're pretty fucking hopeless really huh? Why is JFMK able to hold up a major project without a peep from anybody?
How come MOM isn't saying anything. Where is the Presidential order to hurry the fuck up?
How come we only hear from the detractors in the government and they're able to flood the media with their bullshit?
The place is a fucking joke tbh.

Because the cat is in on it

 

[cruiser51]

Waste of time.

Troll will just do the usual and turn it into you/ us justifying our views for the nth time.

If I could answer him in one word then I would. Unfortunately, I need two.

How about 'wanker'?

 

[Carlos Danger]

Was Avz management hood winked or negligent?

With such a important doco , you would of thought the Avz lawyers would of been all over it before signing......

The only person that doesn't come off looking like an amateur in the partition fiasco is Mupande

Long live the king

 

[Frank]

Here's how it goes on the crapper

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This was my..........ummm..........response...........

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and I got a thumbs up!

Something about a Bishop and a Horse

A King and his Castle

A Queen who gets the Chop

 

[Samus]

The only person that doesn't come off looking like an amateur in the partition fiasco is Mupande

Long live the king

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Career criminal of some 20 years. King of the criminals.
Since he's already sacked he must depend heavily on the snacks.

Just look at those evil snake eyes and his criminal buddy who got busted doing shifty business for the President. Hmm

 

[TDITD]

Was Avz management hood winked or negligent?

With such a important doco , you would of thought the Avz lawyers would of been all over it before signing......

Both imo

 

[Winenut]

The only person that doesn't come off looking like an amateur in the partition fiasco is Mupande

Long live the king

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Yep ...he doesn't come off looking like an amateur.......

He comes off looking like a fucking "on the take", corrupt, Chinese arse licking, I'll take all the money, fuck the law, fuck the govt, I'll stay in the job even though it's not my job and someone else was appointed years ago, the IGF can fuck themselves, absolutely corrupted cunt

So yeah ....

Not an amateur....

Geezuz fucking Christ.....

Let's not canonise the fucking arsehole

 

[Winenut]

Yep ...he doesn't come off looking like an amateur.......

He comes off looking like a fucking "on the take", corrupt, Chinese arse licking, I'll take all the money, fuck the law, fuck the govt, I'll stay in the job even though it's not my job and someone else was appointed years ago, the IGF can fuck themselves, absolutely corrupted cunt

So yeah ....

Not an amateur....

Geezuz fucking Christ.....

Let's not canonise the fucking arsehole

Salt Bae memes and gifs noted....

 

[Spikerama]

Hard to disagree.

We definitely should have what we originally had, throw in the extra 15% would be a start along with MOP an Mupande gone, I'd be happy with that for a start and of course ML.

The fact nobody but Jules Alingete has spoken remotely supporting AVZ is a fucking travesty. But also telling that the most honest guy around is on our side per-say. If Felix isn't full of shit about his corruption policies then that's a big plus.
To be fair they have now shut up the green mumba spewing her lies. We are still treated to a BS news article every now and again.

I tell you what though. Fucking Klaus better have an extremely high security detail wherever he goes in the world from now on, because he now has a multi million dollar target on his forehead for being instrumental in this shit.

 

[TDITD]

Yep ...he doesn't come off looking like an amateur.......

He comes off looking like a fucking "on the take", corrupt, Chinese arse licking, I'll take all the money, fuck the law, fuck the govt, I'll stay in the job even though it's not my job and someone else was appointed years ago, the IGF can fuck themselves, absolutely corrupted cunt

So yeah ....

Not an amateur....

Geezuz fucking Christ.....

Let's not canonise the fucking arsehole

Pineapplise is ok though yes ?




$10

 

[Carlos Danger]

Because the cat is in on it

Career criminal of some 20 years. King of the criminals.
Since he's already sacked he must depend heavily on the snacks.
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Just look at those evil snake eyes and his criminal buddy who got busted doing shifty business for the President. Hmm

Yep ...he doesn't come off looking like an amateur.......

He comes off looking like a fucking "on the take", corrupt, Chinese arse licking, I'll take all the money, fuck the law, fuck the govt, I'll stay in the job even though it's not my job and someone else was appointed years ago, the IGF can fuck themselves, absolutely corrupted cunt

So yeah ....

Not an amateur....

Geezuz fucking Christ.....

Let's not canonise the fucking arsehole

All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate.

I don't blame Felix for having some doubts as to whether AVZ management are the right people to deliver the crown jewel in his battery empire if they aren't able to understand the law properly and are gullible enough to fall for Mupande's tricks.

But the law is on our side and Felix needs this deposit online asap. Soon everything the light touches will be our kingdom. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is imo

 

[Winenut]

All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate.

I don't blame Felix for having some doubts as to whether AVZ management are the right people to deliver the crown jewel in his battery empire if they aren't able to understand the law properly and are gullible enough to fall for Mupande's tricks.

But the law is on our side and Felix needs this deposit online asap. Soon everything the light touches will be our kingdom. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is imo

"All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate."

Where's the evidence AVZ agreed to the partitioning of PR 13359?

 

[Winenut]

"All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate."

Where's the evidence AVZ agreed to the partitioning of PR 13359?

Why laugh at that?

Genuine question

 

[Carlos Danger]

I can't remember who posted it or where it was said (I think at a roadshow) but allegedly Nigel said that CAMI told AVZ that the request for the partition came from Felix. But when Nigel met with Felix he told him that wasn't true and he never requested the tenement be split.

Obviously AVZ management agreed to partition the tenement somewhere between the end of the favourable opinions process and the issuing of the ministerial decree. They were more than happy to announce the north would be renewed under a PR on May 4th 2022 and trade for 3 days after.

Clearly this was a scheme cooked up by Mupande and Klaus to flip the north to Zijin. Call it what you want on AVZ management's behalf but this was the moment all of our troubles finalising the licence began. Considering this is not the norm in the mining code I would have requested written proof from Felix before agreeing to anything that jackal Mupande proposed.

From the AGM:

Issue that a portion of mines directorate said we hadn’t done the work on the northern tenement area, and shouldn’t get the north?

A: That’s not within the mining code. So 13359 should be retained in its entirety – however the northern area may need to come under a separate exploration tenement, even though that’s not the established process. – We know who’s behind this (e.g. DG CAMI)

What about AJN having a crack

A: “their premise is that we’ve returned the northern tenement to government. We haven’t. Draw a conclusion out of that”

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"All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate."

Where's the evidence AVZ agreed to the partitioning of PR 13359?

Why laugh at that?

Genuine question

Sorry I only laughed because I felt I had already answered this in my earlier post which I have attached to this post as well

All good if you don't agree with my reasoning but I'm not really sure how else the tenement would have got split without AVZ management's approval

This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo

 

[Winenut]

Sorry I only laughed because I felt I had already answered this in my earlier post which I have attached to this post as well

All good if you don't agree with my reasoning but I'm not really sure how else the tenement would have got split without AVZ management's approval

This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo

"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo"

Yep..

Knew that one

Almost paraphrased one of my posts either here or on the crapper!.........almost........

Spooky....

 

[Carlos Danger]

"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo"

Yep..

Knew that one

Almost paraphrased one of my posts either here or on the crapper!.........almost........

Spooky....

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I've been singing the shanty for a while now. Apologies if you got the wrong idea. Like I've said repeatedly here I back Nigel and the bod but will always call out what I think they have done wrong. AVZ management not getting confirmation that Felix wanted the tenement partitioned is the original sin of suspension. I trust they will make sure they correct the mistake they agreed to by trusting Mupande over the mining code.

 

[pow4ade]

"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo"

Yep..

Knew that one

Almost paraphrased one of my posts either here or on the crapper!.........almost........

Spooky....

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"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

The failure to verify what was ostensibly hearsay from Mupande is astonishing. Surely this was a red flag to our lawyers in a country as corrupt as the DRC. And what of the Board, were they appraised of these negotiations yet also failed to spot this glaring anomoly?

 

[Samus]

"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

The failure to verify what was ostensibly hearsay from Mupande is astonishing. Surely this was a red flag to our lawyers in a country as corrupt as the DRC. And what of the Board, were they appraised of these negotiations yet also failed to spot this glaring anomoly?

Somewhat of a disconnect while they sit on their ass in Perth too afraid to spend time in the DRC?
Brings back memories of when they dropped the ball during covid and put us in this mess in the first place.