AVZ Discussion 2022

[marksmann007]

Interesting.
Have we had any winks from Deboss this morning?

 

[Bray]

It can’t be AVZ, they need that product right god damn now

 

[CHB]

CATL wouldn't need the money all in one go, it would be staggered based on development.

It's likely something else or maybe even just china being china and trying to screw over PLS lol

 

[Frank]

"We must fight against economic and financial colonization" (Jules Alingete)


Since the accession to the supreme office of Félix Tshisekedi, the General Inspectorate of Finance has been strengthened in capacity and means in order to track down the perpetrators of economic crimes in the DRC.

In line with the vision of the Head of State, Félix Tshisekedi to put an end to embezzlement and corruption in the DRC, Jules Alingete refuses to back down on this.

Indeed, he believes that the same energy that will have enabled the DRC to free itself from the colonial yoke should motivate the Congolese to "fight against the financial colonization imposed by internal and external predators in order to bequeath to our children a country where it will be a good life, ”wrote the financial policeman on his Twitter account.

State coffers have been bleeding for many years because of the financial and economic predation committed by Congolese political actors.

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Chinese contract: in the absence of an amicable solution, four NGOs suggest the nationalization of Sicomines

The report of the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) on the contract signed on September 17, 2008 between the DRC and a group of Chinese companies (GEC) is still in the news.

This Wednesday, March 1, four civil society organizations, namely the Public Expenditure Observatory (Odep), the African Association for the Defense of Human Rights (Asadho), the Congolese Association for Access to Justice (Acaj) and the Economic Governance and Democracy Network (Reged), while welcoming the IGF's report, called for the review of the contract deemed unbalanced.

The IGF report highlights significant disbursements made to Chinese companies established in the DRC, but very low investments in infrastructure for the benefit of the country as agreed in April 2018 when the said agreement was signed.

In the absence of an amicable solution at the end of these discussions, these organizations recommend to the President of the Republic, to the government, to the Courts and tribunals to suspend, then to cancel this agreement, or even to nationalize Sicomines.

They said so in a statement read by Professor Florimond Muteba, PCA of Odep.

These organizations also demand legal proceedings against all those involved in the signing and in the management of this convention and ask President Felix-Antoine Tshisekedi not to leave unpunished the perpetrators of what they describe as "economic crime".

They also plead for the respective responsibility of all the public authorities who were involved in the conclusion and management of the aforesaid Convention to be engaged, from the President of the Republic, to the executives, through the prime ministers, the ministers whose sectors are concerned, the Congolese negotiators, the coordinator of the project as well as the persons in charge of the Congolese Agency of great works (Acgt) and those of Gecamines.

To the control institutions, they ask to undertake or continue the control of all the agreements, in particular mining, in which the DRC is bound, to safeguard the interests of the Congolese people.

These organizations urge Chinese partners to encourage their companies to submit to the duty of accountability and to encourage those arrested to present their means of defense through legal channels.

To the political actors, these organizations ask to refrain from politicizing this file, in order to allow the Congolese people, owner of the national resources, to receive all the clarifications on the way in which their wealth is managed and to persuade any person in charge arrested in this file to present its means of defense by all legal means rather than attacking the IGF "which is only carrying out its legal tasks".

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[Dazmac66]

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Chinese contract: in the absence of an amicable solution, four NGOs suggest the nationalization of Sicomines

The report of the General Inspectorate of Finance (IGF) on the contract signed on September 17, 2008 between the DRC and a group of Chinese companies (GEC) is still in the news.

This Wednesday, March 1, four civil society organizations, namely the Public Expenditure Observatory (Odep), the African Association for the Defense of Human Rights (Asadho), the Congolese Association for Access to Justice (Acaj) and the Economic Governance and Democracy Network (Reged), while welcoming the IGF's report, called for the review of the contract deemed unbalanced.

The IGF report highlights significant disbursements made to Chinese companies established in the DRC, but very low investments in infrastructure for the benefit of the country as agreed in April 2018 when the said agreement was signed.

In the absence of an amicable solution at the end of these discussions, these organizations recommend to the President of the Republic, to the government, to the Courts and tribunals to suspend, then to cancel this agreement, or even to nationalize Sicomines.

They said so in a statement read by Professor Florimond Muteba, PCA of Odep.

These organizations also demand legal proceedings against all those involved in the signing and in the management of this convention and ask President Felix-Antoine Tshisekedi not to leave unpunished the perpetrators of what they describe as "economic crime".

They also plead for the respective responsibility of all the public authorities who were involved in the conclusion and management of the aforesaid Convention to be engaged, from the President of the Republic, to the executives, through the prime ministers, the ministers whose sectors are concerned, the Congolese negotiators, the coordinator of the project as well as the persons in charge of the Congolese Agency of great works (Acgt) and those of Gecamines.

To the control institutions, they ask to undertake or continue the control of all the agreements, in particular mining, in which the DRC is bound, to safeguard the interests of the Congolese people.

These organizations urge Chinese partners to encourage their companies to submit to the duty of accountability and to encourage those arrested to present their means of defense through legal channels.

To the political actors, these organizations ask to refrain from politicizing this file, in order to allow the Congolese people, owner of the national resources, to receive all the clarifications on the way in which their wealth is managed and to persuade any person in charge arrested in this file to present its means of defense by all legal means rather than attacking the IGF "which is only carrying out its legal tasks".

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Do these Civil Societies have any influence on the government or the general population? Some strong recommendations, they are clearly over being ripped off by the Chinese and corrupt elements. Where would this shave been published Frank?

Jules Alingete is indeed a champion, we salute you!

 

[Funtimes1]

Felix is President of a country. If he's getting sand in his vagina about a nobody giving him curry on the bird then he's as thin skinned as that (alleged) crook Bruz. If he's willing to throw his toys out of the cot and go against the rules and laws of his country and kick AVZ to the kerb to spite someone who hurt his feelings on the internet then he's nothing more than a child and the world will see him as such. Quick way to become the laughing stock of the world.

Have you seen Felix photo - it's paraded everywhere , from GOV offices to public toilets and probably at the bed head of most whore houses. These guys get elevated to God like symbols and every meeting ppl are kowtowing to their every whim. Its not much different in Asia where I worked for 30 years and very, very different to the West where we take great pleasure at insulating retard politicians. Even If he was more grounded than a Darwin Truck driver , his tires are pumped up daily and the best of us would start believing we are better than we actually are and you don't take insults easily. Im sure his not reading the bird and he could have super thick skin, but it's AVZ enemies that will use it and we have seen it already on the bird. I could'nt give a flying dog turd about Felix , but I don't want some innuendo going against AVZ and its makes sense AVZ has reached out to some to back down, as AVZ tone always been one of respect.

 

[Spikerama]

Have you seen Felix photo - it's paraded everywhere , from GOV offices to public toilets and probably at the bed head of most whore houses. These guys get elevated to God like symbols and every meeting ppl are kowtowing to their every whim. Its not much different in Asia where I worked for 30 years and very, very different to the West where we take great pleasure at insulating retard politicians. Even If he was more grounded than a Darwin Truck driver , his tires are pumped up daily and the best of us would start believing we are better than we actually are and you don't take insults easily. Im sure his not reading the bird and he could have super thick skin, but it's AVZ enemies that will use it and we have seen it already on the bird. I could'nt give a flying dog turd about Felix , but I don't want some innuendo going against AVZ and its makes sense AVZ has reached out to some to back down, as AVZ tone always been one of respect.

Yes I tend to agree with this sentiment. I think it's important to stick to the facts when posting on twitter. It's a folly to play the man and not the ball.
Ad hominem as they say. The story is all there. The facts have been presented to us through numerous channels. We just need to keep packaging it up into powerful, sharable content. Keep building the argument so that eventually it is unmissable. Our small band of warriors in here are not going to make a massive impact without the help off the DRC legions. So we need to arm them first.

The stuff I have been doing is provocative yes, but I have been trying to approach it from a perspective of how a political campaign is waged, without blatant mudslinging. Which I must admit is tricky when you have a President who's entire campaign 4 years ago was built on ending corruption in his cabinet should he take office.

And yet here we are.

 

[Flight996]

God, I wish I knew what was happening behind the Congo curtain.

I wish I knew what AVZ was negotiating. Whatever it is, collectively management has 84 million reasons to be negotiating hard.
I wish I knew if they are close to an agreement on a reprieve, a JV, a buy-in, a buy-out, a full or part sale of CDL, or remain determined to take it to the ICC in April, or simply just applying liberal amounts of KY and hoping it's quick.

 

[ptlas]

God, I wish I knew what was happening behind the Congo curtain.

I wish I knew what AVZ was negotiating. Collectively management has 84 million reasons to be working hard.
I wish I knew if they are close to an agreement on a reprieve, a JV, a buy-in, a buy-out, a full or part sale of CDL, or remain determined to take it to the ICC in April, or simply just applying liberal amounts of KY.

I think management are all in.

 

[Samus]

#RDC #bradage to $33.4million #cominiere The responsibility of the Minister of the Portfolio is engaged insofar as without her agreement it would not have been possible to sell off the assets of Cominiere. She must answer for her actions in court.


I agree with @KasongoKas and ask the Honorable President of the Senate @PLukwebo to propose to PR05 another AFDC as Minister of Portfolio. No to the mediocre. Make way for the competent. May the PR05 free us from the incompetent and mediocre #Probite #Competence #Loyalty

 

[Bonsoir]

#RDC #bradage to $33.4million #cominiere The responsibility of the Minister of the Portfolio is engaged insofar as without her agreement it would not have been possible to sell off the assets of Cominiere. She must answer for her actions in court.


I agree with @KasongoKas and ask the Honorable President of the Senate @PLukwebo to propose to PR05 another AFDC as Minister of Portfolio. No to the mediocre. Make way for the competent. May the PR05 free us from the incompetent and mediocre #Probite #Competence #Loyalty

Fuck fuck fuck they talk in riddles, anyone speak riddle ?

 

[Strongman]

#RDC #bradage to $33.4million #cominiere The responsibility of the Minister of the Portfolio is engaged insofar as without her agreement it would not have been possible to sell off the assets of Cominiere. She must answer for her actions in court.


I agree with @KasongoKas and ask the Honorable President of the Senate @PLukwebo to propose to PR05 another AFDC as Minister of Portfolio. No to the mediocre. Make way for the competent. May the PR05 free us from the incompetent and mediocre #Probite #Competence #Loyalty

I think it is highly unlikely that Felix is unaware of the Dathcom situation but he is unable to act because of his reliance on the MoM and MoP and their constituents as to remove either of these two is to kiss goodbye to being reelected. A delicate situation i think where he has to remove the DG and any other crooks from Cami etc without implicating the ministers who have overseen this whole shit show. Possible the Mop was hoodwinked aka Nigel giving away north of out tennament ?

 

[Spikerama]

I think it is highly unlikely that Felix is unaware of the Dathcom situation but he is unable to act because of his reliance on the MoM and MoP and their constituents as to remove either of these two is to kiss goodbye to being reelected. A delicate situation i think where he has to remove the DG and any other crooks from Cami etc without implicating the ministers who have overseen this whole shit show. Possible the Mop was hoodwinked aka Nigel giving away north of out tennament ? View attachment 30986

The Prince Douglas bloke is not worth your time. He's an attention seeker and only trying to sell his books on Amazon. IMO

 

[Strongman]

The Prince Douglas bloke is not worth your time. He's an attention seeker and only trying to sell his books on Amazon. IMO

Yeah no idea who he is mate but just posting to support my view...which may be completely incorrect !

 

[Strongman]

Oh forgot to say. Great work with all the media stuff mate. Im sure you got the full support of all of us. Well done

 

[Carlos Danger]

 

[Onthefm]

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That can't of happened as there would have been an announcement.

 

[Remark]

More disinformation....

 

[Spikerama]

Ok you can be honest. Is this just too silly?

 

[LzrTr8dr]

Ok you can be honest. Is this just too silly?

Makes me keen to go and see AVZ vs. Zijin: The Musical