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To your last point there, it's conceivable that China, playing the long game, would sponsor DRC media activity to elect whoever they want to become their political puppet for the next presidential term (legally or through corrupt means). Worth keeping an eye on this, although I'm unsure what one could do to change it.The strategy is all about time IMO. It‘s about our adversaries putting in place obstacle after obstacle to chew up time in the hope that:
Arseholes.
- We give up or cede ground
- We run out of cash
- There is some cataclysmic event e.g. ASX delisting, a helpful EGM outcome
- There is a change of government to one more willing to do China’s evil bidding.
I think it is more likely than not.To your last point there, it's conceivable that China, playing the long game, would sponsor DRC media activity to elect whoever they want to become their political puppet for the next presidential term (legally or through corrupt means). Worth keeping an eye on this, although I'm unsure what one could do to change it.
They would indeed.To your last point there, it's conceivable that China, playing the long game, would sponsor DRC media activity to elect whoever they want to become their political puppet for the next presidential term (legally or through corrupt means). Worth keeping an eye on this, although I'm unsure what one could do to change it.
Another well articulated post Obe!I very much doubt AVZ are communicating in any way with zijin other than telling Cominiere that they need to sort their shit out with Zijin and get the project rolling…
harmonious relations is only between shareholders of which Zijin legally are not … all that is in that pot, is Dathcom , AVZ , Cominiere and possibly Dathomir .
Zijin only conjured ICC up, in order to try and force a position for themselves at the negotiating table ; Zijins issue lies with Cominiere not AVZ ; AVZ have ROFR, it should be Cominiere that should be bringing AVZ to ICC if they have acted above board and are certain AVZ is blocking the sale; of which Zijin have only ever paid a ‘deposit’ …no sale has crossed the line.
At this stage in my view ; AVZ would be nuts to entertain anything from Zijin unless it had real financial benefit / clout to the project ; we’ve been suspended 10 months ; walk with then into ICC if they wish….
It will be interesting to see what Zijins considers their case is and what the mechanics they are running on ; I reckon it will be a wet bag of shit that Zijin , Cominiere , MoP etc would prefer never to be opened as the only thing it’s going to burn up, is a lot of reputations excluding that of AVZ; it also potentially widens the avenues up even more so , for AVZ to seek significant damages from Cominiere /Zijin ; let the lawyers become another source of revenue to the Dathcom project imo.
A couple of months I’d have been on the side of ‘let’s negotiate with Zijin’ ; it’s now March 23… ICC April 23 .. unless the board have been advised by their legal eagles to possibly consider negotiating the 15% I say fuck them and march straight to ICC.
I think the harmonious discussions need to be happening between Zijin / Cominiere and certain ministers and the best thing they can do is say amongst themselves is that ye we had a good shot at trying to steal the Manono project , but it hasn’t gone to plan and attempts to lure AVZ to the table with legal threats hasn’t worked ; but we really need to cut our loses here and pull the hand break on this ICC event which will highly likely expose how corrupt all these parties involved against AVZ have been and legal cases are likely to roll out of the AVZ legal team in gathering damages and winks
I reckon the US is our best chance of getting a good price if AVZ bod were considering a TO.DRC Congo press discussing importance of Lithium again in this article
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Actualité | Lithium de RDC : un minerai stratégique sur fond de conflit géopolitique | mediacongo.net
De toute évidence, le Congo compte réellement pour les États-Unis à cause de la géopolitique internationale. Et ce n’est pas pour rien. Le...www.mediacongo.net
Obviously, Congo really matters to the United States because of international geopolitics. And it's not for nothing. The country is the largest cobalt producer in the world and the largest copper producer in Africa. That's not all: important strategic mineral deposits are also listed in its subsoil.
Manono's lithium is not only of interest to China. Canadians, Americans and Europeans are also on the breach.
U.S. INTEREST in Africa has declined significantly in recent years. With Joe Biden, the president of the United States, Washington wants to catch up with China and Russia, which are spectacularly extending their tentacles on the African continent. In this American quest to regain control in Africa, the Congo, where there are large deposits of lithium and other strategic minerals, represents great importance for Americans who seek to keep their traditional geopolitical influence there.
"Lithium is really the summary of the challenges of the world that is coming," analysts almost take up in chorus. It is certain, and in all likelihood, investors looking to possess one of the keys to the near future, should flock to the metal nicknamed "white gold" or "white oil", increasingly sought after and essential to carry out the energy transition. From batteries to medicines to batteries, the use of lithium has become essential to the manufacture of smartphones, computers, and especially the batteries of electric cars / EVs.
As a result, the price of lithium continues to rise. Analysts even predict that it should be multiplied by 40 by 2035, precisely because of the exploding demand. For example, the European Commission estimates that there will not be enough lithium mined to meet needs by 2030. And so the spectre of scarcity is already on the horizon.
Question: How much will the world need then? For the moment, it is difficult to give a precise answer while we are still in the middle of speculation, conjecture... And so, no one really knows what the future will be. Curious, however, to note that the world summit on lithium that was organized on November 28 and 29, 2022 in Buenos Aires, the Argentine capital, went largely unnoticed.
However, without lithium, there is no energy transition (?). The issue of lithium exploitation is today in a way a concentrate of the biggest geopolitical issues of the moment. Almost everything is there. White gold has become a crucial economic issue especially for car manufacturers and their customers who are considering owning an EV.
DRC's ambitions
On the subject of lithium exploitation, the Democratic Republic of Congo/DRC has crazy ambitions. The government wants to make the country a true world center for the manufacture of electric batteries. A project that is still littered with obstacles: poor state of roads, lack of electricity, lack of transparency, corruption... Will the DRC really be at the heart of the global energy transition tomorrow? This is in any case the ambition of the country's authorities who want to develop the country's lithium resources, by installing an electric battery manufacturing industry.
The country is said to have the largest reserves of hard rock lithium ever mined in the world. Only a reserve of 132 million tonnes has been proven and considered probable, and therefore immediately exploitable. It is also said that the DRC has the greatest potential on the African continent, which could make it the world's largest lithium producer ahead of Australia.
AVZ Minerals, an Australian company, plans to launch in 2023 the exploitation of this deposit considered the largest in the world, in the territory of Manono in the province of Tanganyika. This company has been present on the site since 2016 to develop a mine. Contemporary Amperex Technology Ltd/ CATL, a Chinese group and world leader in battery manufacturing, wants to partner with AVZ Minerals through its subsidiary Suzhou Cath Energy Technologies. CATL has put on the table $240 million for a 24% stake in the project and could spend up to $400 million in total.
The commissioning of the Manono mine is seen as a turning point by the Congolese government. Félix Antoine Tshisekedi Tshilombo, the President of the Republic, declares loud and clear that his country is "the most competitive destination in the world" to install battery manufacturing plants. In figures, the DRC hopes to capture part of the $ 8 trillion in revenue from the sale of EVs by 000, or $ 2025 trillion by 46. Indeed, a plant located in the DRC would cost less than in the United States or China.
Governance
Manono's lithium is not only of interest to China, the world leader in battery production. Other lithium electric battery plant construction projects are also being led by Canadians, Americans and Europeans. Apparently, the Westerners are capped to the post by the Chinese. Seemingly. Indeed, Joe Lowry, the founder of consulting firm Global Lithium, recently told Voice of America/VOA that Western lithium producers have been caught off guard by the growth of the EV industry, and thus, by the lithium rush.
He pointed out that lithium has been a tiny niche market for 7 decades, and the global market for lithium-based chemicals did not reach $1 billion until 2015. And for good reason, according to him, the industry was not prepared for the electrification of transportation. "You can build a huge battery factory like Tesla does in a few years. It takes up to ten years to bring a fully integrated lithium chemicals project online," Lowry said.
After investing ahead of the resource curve outside of China, Chinese producers are looking at India and Africa. Africa's lithium is increasingly coveted as more than half of the world's mineral resources are in South America and Australia. Chinese conglomerate BYD, headquartered in Shenzen, is reportedly negotiating the purchase of six new lithium mines in unspecified African countries, according to Reuters. In Zimbabwe, which has large untapped deposits, China is buying up mines. According to Reuters, Zhejiang Huayou Cobalt is investing $300 million in the Arcadia Lithium mine on the outskirts of Harare, the country's capital. There is talk of building a processing plant for 400,000 metric tons of lithium concentrate per year. Shenzhen Chengxin Lithium Group and Sinomine Resource Group are also investing in lithium in Zimbabwe.
This country, economically unstable and hit by Western sanctions, wants to become a major player in the flourishing lithium sector.
The Chinese company Ganfeng Lithium, which has the largest lithium production capacity in the world, will build in partnership with Leo Lithium Limited, an Australian firm, the first lithium mine in West Africa, in Mali. Estimated cost: more than 160 billion FCFA. The Goulamina hard rock mine is considered one of the highest quality lithium assets in the world.
It is now that the United States also recognizes the importance of Africa. Indeed, Africa has vast untapped energy deposits, which are essential for the transition to clean energy, including for mobile phones, aircraft engines, hybrid electric vehicles and missile guidance systems.
It's all discussing AVZ and CATL , no discussion of Zinjin, so perhaps USA applying pressure to get the mess sorted out and production started.
And a us company would have the ml in a Newyork second as us gov looks after their company's. Not like sleepy don't give a fuck australian government.I reckon the US is our best chance of getting a good price if AVZ bod were considering a TO.
Price wouldnt be a object if it meant putting a spanner in the works of China gaining control of the biggest hard rock lithium project in the world by a country mile, thus controlling the price.
imo
Zijin is complaining that AVZ is not communicating with them. This could be because AVZ's legal team have advised the company against any communication with Zijin while the case is before the ICC. It also suggests Zijin is worried.I very much doubt AVZ are communicating in any way with zijin other than telling Cominiere that they need to sort their shit out with Zijin and get the project rolling…
harmonious relations is only between shareholders of which Zijin legally are not … all that is in that pot, is Dathcom , AVZ , Cominiere and possibly Dathomir .
Zijin only conjured ICC up, in order to try and force a position for themselves at the negotiating table ; Zijins issue lies with Cominiere not AVZ ; AVZ have ROFR, it should be Cominiere that should be bringing AVZ to ICC if they have acted above board and are certain AVZ is blocking the sale; of which Zijin have only ever paid a ‘deposit’ …no sale has crossed the line.
At this stage in my view ; AVZ would be nuts to entertain anything from Zijin unless it had real financial benefit / clout to the project ; we’ve been suspended 10 months ; walk with then into ICC if they wish….
It will be interesting to see what Zijins considers their case is and what the mechanics they are running on ; I reckon it will be a wet bag of shit that Zijin , Cominiere , MoP etc would prefer never to be opened as the only thing it’s going to burn up, is a lot of reputations excluding that of AVZ; it also potentially widens the avenues up even more so , for AVZ to seek significant damages from Cominiere /Zijin ; let the lawyers become another source of revenue to the Dathcom project imo.
A couple of months I’d have been on the side of ‘let’s negotiate with Zijin’ ; it’s now March 23… ICC April 23 .. unless the board have been advised by their legal eagles to possibly consider negotiating the 15% I say fuck them and march straight to ICC.
I think the harmonious discussions need to be happening between Zijin / Cominiere and certain ministers and the best thing they can do is say amongst themselves is that ye we had a good shot at trying to steal the Manono project , but it hasn’t gone to plan and attempts to lure AVZ to the table with legal threats hasn’t worked ; but we really need to cut our loses here and pull the hand break on this ICC event which will highly likely expose how corrupt all these parties involved against AVZ have been and legal cases are likely to roll out of the AVZ legal team in gathering damages and winks
Question - Have the minutes been released and was there a conversation around the Mining Licence?
Regards,
SilentOne
I agree, but apparently that's naughty.100% Nells. Fuck Zijin, fuck the corrupt ministers
Fuck hot crapper right in the pooperI agree, but apparently that's naughty.
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You gotta love TSE, express how you want , with impunity.......I agree, but apparently that's naughty.
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Yeah dance the cancanAre we expecting the Minister of Mines to do something after she has cancelled the Decree ?
Ah yes, she’ll definitely do something at some time in the future.Are we expecting the Minister of Mines to do something after she has cancelled the Decree ?
You gotta love TSE, express how you want , with impunity.......
Just breathe the wrong way at the hot crapper and be moderated......
HC AVZ discussion threads are dominated by salty dumb fuck TOLATE ...........is that linda ?
Meanwhile AVZ TSE discussion threads are full of intel , robust differing of opinions with respect and humour.
Where would you rather be ?
imo
Mate riddle me this : If the Chinese( Zijin first up then Dathomir at a later date yet to be decided ) are happy to go down the ICC path BUT the MoM (who is in the Chinese pocket ) wants the Manono project progressing forward ASAP , then who out of the 3 participants : DCR corruptors aka MoP/ MoM /Cami / Cominiere ,The Chinese Corruptors or AVZ Minerals , who out of these 3 is the likely participant to go Arse up Charlie if they don't change their line of attack/ thinking ? Add to this 10 months of nowhere land already down the sh1tter with the clock ticking at a million miles an hour and a bank balance being drained buy the second . Plan B Nigel ? Nigel maybe right . He maybe Righteous. He maybe Noble . But what he cannot be is reckless with SH investment.My point is not that I want Zijin in ICC above anything else .. I just don’t want AVZ to give them anything unless we don’t have any choice.
It’s up to Zijin to decide how much of a hole in the head they want to be to all the parties which are likely to get exposed including themselves ; ideally they’d just pull the pin on the ICC case and decide that their pressure cookers didn’t have the desired effect ….
That ship has sailed wombi, reckless is all I see,,, love someone to show me different, I can’t find it,,,,, just fluff, wrapped up in an asx announcements, what has really happened in 10 months,,, apart from a few more core’s being drilled out of the ground?Mate riddle me this : If the Chinese( Zijin first up then Dathomir at a later date yet to be decided ) are happy to go down the ICC path BUT the MoM (who is in the Chinese pocket ) wants the Manono project progressing forward ASAP , then who out of the 3 participants : DCR corruptors aka MoP/ MoM /Cami / Cominiere ,The Chinese Corruptors or AVZ Minerals , who out of these 3 is the likely participant to go Arse up Charlie if they don't change their line of attack/ thinking ? Add to this 10 months of nowhere land already down the sh1tter with the clock ticking at a million miles an hour and a bank balance being drained buy the second . Plan B Nigel ? Nigel maybe right . He maybe Righteous. He maybe Noble . But what he cannot be is reckless with SH money .