Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
I knew a girl once that could balance balls on her head....
Apologies in advance for that one....
AVZ Discussion 2022
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I knew a girl once that could balance balls on her head....
Apologies in advance for that one....
I believe that everything that Zijin and corrupt ministers have thrown at AVZ has and will continue to be countered in our favour….
1. MoP and Zijin tried to have AVZ booted from
Manono. Counter: IGF report confirms AVZ as legal owner of 60% minimum of Dathcom.
2. MoP tries to sell 15% of Dathcom to Zijin. Counter: IGF report confirms number of irregularities and doesn’t stand a chance at ICC.
3. CAMI splits tenement to try and give North to AJN. Later, Cominiere and Zijin try to do deal with North using Zijin’s illegal 15% last December. Counter. MoM issued decree to bring North and South back as one tenement. Bye bye Klaus.
4. Dathomir’s 15% will be settled at ICC.
5. MoP gives President unsigned report full of shite saying AVZ are speculators, don’t have finance etc. Counter. Marius does 2 interviews on TV and lays the boot into MoP and CAMI.
Taking forever but Zijin and corrupt officials are slowly running out of options.
1. MoP and Zijin tried to have AVZ booted from
Manono. Counter: IGF report confirms AVZ as legal owner of 60% minimum of Dathcom.
2. MoP tries to sell 15% of Dathcom to Zijin. Counter: IGF report confirms number of irregularities and doesn’t stand a chance at ICC.
3. CAMI splits tenement to try and give North to AJN. Later, Cominiere and Zijin try to do deal with North using Zijin’s illegal 15% last December. Counter. MoM issued decree to bring North and South back as one tenement. Bye bye Klaus.
4. Dathomir’s 15% will be settled at ICC.
5. MoP gives President unsigned report full of shite saying AVZ are speculators, don’t have finance etc. Counter. Marius does 2 interviews on TV and lays the boot into MoP and CAMI.
Taking forever but Zijin and corrupt officials are slowly running out of options.
Looking at the T20 as at 30 June on AVZ website, Huayou, Yibin and LP had 18%. Extra 60m by LP would take it to 20%. Even if there was major purchasing since then, way off anywhere 51% required. 690m vs 1.75b required.
Also added up all the nominee accounts. Assuming they are 100% Chinese (unlikely) that’s an extra 630m, so takes it to 1.32b, still 420m short. That’s the whole T8 and assuming all Chinese.
I can’t see it happening but never know what Chinese can get up to. Also, AVZ would be watching it like a hawk. I would love to see an American come in for an FU CR to dilute Chinese.
Also added up all the nominee accounts. Assuming they are 100% Chinese (unlikely) that’s an extra 630m, so takes it to 1.32b, still 420m short. That’s the whole T8 and assuming all Chinese.
I can’t see it happening but never know what Chinese can get up to. Also, AVZ would be watching it like a hawk. I would love to see an American come in for an FU CR to dilute Chinese.
"It's obvious that there will be significant selling on open "Ye indeed and agree, the road is now looking like a brixton Cul De Sac ; they’ve certainly had a good shot, now ; let's just see if logic prevails..but some times it's as if they don't care what others think...they ( MoP & CO ) act , as if they think people don't see what's going on...mind bending...its been corrupt for so long, that they seem to think it's just the done thing and people will just give them what they want,forget and get over it
The Chinese, imo failing 15%, North or the whole shooting match, they’ll continue to have a shot ; FIRB prevents TO ; but there's likely another angle that they are likely to mull over and there is potential opportunity considering the likely selldown on opening I.e cheap shares....a shot that can be taken if they can get their Chinese friends in the T20 together and that would be to accumulate more shares and turnover the the current board with a 51% holding of voting power ; I've noticed an increasing number of posters on the crapper, which I've never seen post before asking if anyone is looking to buy off market and these figures have been for 400k+ numbers ; also noticing a number of unknowns making off the cuff comments about management both on the crapper and here as of late ; it's to be expected considering the circumstances, but matched timing is obvious to me...lubing the mind of shareholders
It's obvious that there will be significant selling on open ,as many that will have been caught up in this shit will take a financial gasp ; ETFs etc exit, but the 10 months of Manono advertising will kick in as others will see the value...i also think we’ll have a few of our Chinese ‘friends’ enter the registery to build a gang position...as I've said before, I reckon good old Lithium Plus will come out of the bushes at some stage acting as a conduit for others ....Spod at mates rates back their Chinese counterparts...certainly wouldn't be looking after shareholders best interests imo
Certainly alot of jaded, stale longs could be out the door, but if alot went right for AVZ regards to minimum 51% control, retention of 100% CDL, ML granted ( fort knox documentation ), plus a release of that updated DFS which i am sure will be eye watering , plus a further update on the current RD drilling / assays..........there could be enough BULL in that basket to counter the BEAR.
Of course, a improved MACRO sentiment would also help the cause too.....
imo
I think it's safe to say the Chinese will never give up on securing Manono . They will try the blatantly corrupt and criminal way first . Failing that they will use a different tactic. IMOYe indeed and agree, the road is now looking like a brixton Cul De Sac ; they’ve certainly had a good shot, now ; let's just see if logic prevails..but some times it's as if they don't care what others think...they ( MoP & CO ) act , as if they think people don't see what's going on...mind bending
The Chinese, imo failing 15%, North or the whole shooting match, they’ll continue to have a shot ; FIRB prevents TO ; but there's likely another angle that they are likely to mull over and there is potential opportunity considering the likely selldown on opening I.e cheap shares....a shot that can be taken if they can get their Chinese friends in the T20 together and that would be to accumulate more shares and turnover the the current board with a 51% holding of voting power ; I've noticed an increasing number of posters on the crapper, which I've never seen post before asking if anyone is looking to buy off market and these figures have been for 400k+ numbers ; also noticing a few of these unknowns making off the cuff comments out management both on the crapper and here as of late ; it's to be expected considering the circumstances, but matched timing is obvious to me...lubing the mind of shareholders
It's obvious that there will be significant selling on open ,as many that will have been caught up in this shit will take a financial gasp ; ETFs etc exit, but the 10 months of Manono advertising will kick in as others will see the value...i also think we’ll have a few of our Chinese ‘friends’ enter the registery to build a gang position...as I've said before, I reckon good old Lithium Plus will come out of the bushes at some stage....Spod at mates rates back their Chinese counterparts...certainly wouldn't be looking after shareholders best interests imo
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
Ye indeed and agree, the road is now looking like a brixton Cul De Sac ; they’ve certainly had a good shot, now ; let's just see if logic prevails..but some times it's as if they don't care what others think...they ( MoP & CO ) act , as if they think people don't see what's going on...mind bending
The Chinese, imo failing 15%, North or the whole shooting match, they’ll continue to have a shot ; FIRB prevents TO ; but there's likely another angle that they are likely to mull over and there is potential opportunity considering the likely selldown on opening I.e cheap shares....a shot that can be taken if they can get their Chinese friends in the T20 together and that would be to accumulate more shares and turnover the the current board with a 51% holding of voting power ; I've noticed an increasing number of posters on the crapper, which I've never seen post before asking if anyone is looking to buy off market and these figures have been for 400k+ numbers ; also noticing a number of unknowns making off the cuff comments about management both on the crapper and here as of late ; it's to be expected considering the circumstances, but matched timing is obvious to me...lubing the mind of shareholders
It's obvious that there will be significant selling on open ,as many that will have been caught up in this shit will take a financial gasp ; ETFs etc exit, but the 10 months of Manono advertising will kick in as others will see the value...i also think we’ll have a few of our Chinese ‘friends’ enter the registery to build a gang position...as I've said before, I reckon good old Lithium Plus will come out of the bushes at some stage acting as a conduit for others ....Spod at mates rates back their Chinese counterparts...certainly wouldn't be looking after shareholders best interests imo
Why are you posting possible opportunities for the Chinese AVZ Top 20 holders and their friends??
I've been crucified for much less
"a shot that can be taken if they can get their Chinese friends in the T20 together and that would be to accumulate more shares and turnover the the current board with a 51% holding of voting power"
We can't do a thing to stop that.....so why would you put it out there on the public forum if so many on this thread are concerned about giving away intel and information to those working against our interests????????????
Many times I've been told to pull my head in, shut the fuck up and have "private little convo's" and keep ideas and thoughts and strategies away from prying eyes
Talking up a sell down on open............a warning or prepping and lubing shareholders?
Nothing but opinions, conjecture and agenda on the thread for 10 months
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CashKing
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You crazy bro…. Like fuck management are going to provide an update on our situation…That’s just silly talk….
Better of asking the media buddy..
That’s how we get our info in this RAT FUCK COMPANY TWISTED SHIT SHOW….
GLTAH
Samus
Top 20
And drill results.
Fucken drill results!
Hopefully it's not the great drill results giveaway...
Fuck me congratulations of having the patience to actually write that .and thanks for informing me that in the last 3 years the nige has been in country 7 months of them . Oh well done. Hip hip what a wank.imo‘You can ask my women what they have to say in this connection’.... ‘Dick pictures’....you sound like a real catch .
I'm pretty sure, you were also the first to run out of the hedge screaming ‘nigel isn't in the DRC’ when Marius said he was in Kinshasa and NF was ready to return to Kinshasa’ ... Nigel has been in DRC for around 3 weeks now; he was back in Oz for a short stint prior to that...where was he before that? ..he was in DRC; did you know, believe it or not, Nigel spent around 7 months in DRC last year too; sometimes I do have to pull my eyeballs back down into their correct position, as they flip to focus on the inside of the top of my skull when reading regurgitated statements ‘management should be in DRC’ / ‘Management are doing nothing ‘ ..... When the opposite is;where the truth is.
I think the case has been, that Management have strictly followed a hard legal path and by doing the right thing,that eventually they’d weather the corruption storm and break out the other end....this tact may indeed prove true, but corruption content has proved to be high within a system which they’ve tried to guide their way through and so it's proving to be a very drawn out process indeed.....
We know that AVZ have had several meetings between late June to November ; the conclusion of these meetings should have resulted in a summary report of these meeting....( anyone that was in attendance, at the road shows in early Novemeber would certainly have noticed NFs confidence that the ML was about to pop) ..what sort of reporting was served up, to be signed off in mid to late November? Answer a plate of shite, a report that was bias towards AVZ, it's contents excluded proposals of infrastruture investments and so forth ; AVZ declined go sign that report, as it was a false representation of their intents...did MoP expect AVZ to sign it on review..she’d obviously would have liked AVZ to have swallowed that pill, after 6 months of burning time, MoP had compiled an unsignable report which was to be submitted to the head of state...AVZ didn't sign; but we were still in stuck in MoPs wear them down with time plan; we were still stuck in the damp trenches and pushing forward by keeping quite and letting the legal system work it all out ; corrupt individuals and even more so, when supported by other corrupt individuals in a system, do not follow the law all the way down the track ; they will deviate from it in order to try and reach their goal; so there's a lot of one step forward and two steps back and visa versa, in how AVZ have been tracking.
Ministers are appointed for a reason; they’re the equivalent of any managerial team within any company ; they control various departments , as the CEO can't be expected to run each and every department by him/herself ; ministers are trusted with doing their jobs without the requirement for presidential intervention...problem is that now MoP has a red light on her head, and a number of other ministers, including the PM have fallen under the spotlight ; Felix was never going to come running through the door swinging the sword in the first few months ; remember meetings which were to be arranged between FT, Marius / AVZ we're effectively scuttled before dates were even penciled in by the distractors
FT trusted his ministers, the ICF report started to dismantle the MoP ; the unsigned summary report and reasons why it never arrive....who knows , maybe even why it had , but only arrive half baked ( without AVZ signature) but advised to read , is likely to have opened up some further kinks in her armour.
The MoM’s withdrawal of the decrees on the 6th of Feb -’urgency, harmonious, healthy cooperation’ has basically pulled the hand break on the long legal zombie walk. As Marius has said MoM, was not associated with the irregular sale of the 15%, she knew of the sale of the 15% but couldn't take any action due to ‘coordination problems’.
We know that the case against comminere was agreed to be withdraw by both AVZ and Cominiere at least from lumbumbashi court a week or two after the Feb 6th decree ; so fair call, (considering that management have also been in DRC for the bulk of the time between the decree and and now) , is that parties have come to the table to work towards a conclusion, from where id assume another report will be ( has been?) generated, but in this case it's not being selectively compiled by MoP; these discussions will be accounting how we have gotten to this point in time ; how things haven't moved along so smoothly.
I don’t think FT is anti AVZ, I do think that it would have been difficult for him to start countering decisions made by his ministers, as it would clearly point to dysfunction / corruption within a government led by him. Marius is respected with the DRC, him speaking publically on TV twice last week would have tenderised some of those feelings of respect apparently many within the public have towards MoM.
AVZ following the correct part ( maybe not as effective in DRC ), and followed the mining code to a tee ; Marius Mihigo and Christain Lukusa ( highly respected by FT) leading the way, but with highlighting grit which makes things a hell of a lot easier for FT to act on
AVZ were already in the DRC well before you lost your load on the footpath @Schemozzle. What day was the Marius Mihigo broadcast shot? Where in Kinshasa and when was the NF and JC ‘men in black’ shot taken? Some say a large meeting was scheduled the week before, only for the Macron visit which pushed things out....i wonder if a follow up visit happened.
politico pulling articles and a number of old AFR Avz related tweets getting deleted is also interesting FWIW
Well, aren't you the fucking bluebird of happiness.
I suppose at least adding a some derision and insulting a fellow poster in addition to having whinge about how long the BoD have been in the DRC is different to the usual just whinging about how long the BoD have been in the DRC.
FFS, give it a rest.
TheCount
Regular
@MoneyBags1348 I actually think those sneaky Chinese have invented an updated message receiving device - you know mind control and all that.. Here is the version used early on :-
Cheers,
TC.
Not sure why you have been crucified for sharing a opinion, this is a public forum, sharing opinions good or bad is what its all about.....
The corrupt chinese and DRC officials are the ones " lubing " shareholders, not @obe wan sharing a opinion as to what potentially could happen when AVZ finally opens up for trade.
I believe their have been several chats in the past here about scenarios that could happen on that topic.
Bull or Bear will happen regardless of what is said at TSE, HC or where ever else.
Share market is shit again today, MACRO is crap, the 11th biggest bank in the US hit the skids.........SP for AVZ remains steady !!
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Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
Maybe crucified was a little dramaticNot sure why you have been crucified for sharing a opinion, this is a public forum, sharing opinions good or bad is what its all about.....
The corrupt chinese and DRC officials are the ones " lubing " shareholders, not @obe wan sharing a opinion as to what potentially could happen when AVZ finally opens up for trade.
I believe their have been several chats in the past here about scenarios that could happen on that topic.
Bull or Bear will happen regardless of what is said at TSE, HC or where ever else.
Share market is shit again today, MACRO is crap, the 11th biggest bank in the US hit the skids.........SP for AVZ remains steady !!
imo
Certainly well kicked and accused of shit here but also on the "other" forum
The whole frustrating situation can be put to bed pretty simply with some basic information provided by management in an official announcement
Hopefully that comes sooner rather than later and yep .....the market is a shocker again today!!
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
Bit hard to understand exactly what is being said with the auto translate
Might have just been filling in temporarily for the meeting?
Well I hope Nige was waiting out the front with a pen. One quick signature from the 'acting' MoP and we off to the races.
I know who had a crack at you here and what topic...........unfair it was and BS.Maybe crucified was a little dramatic
Certainly well kicked and accused of shit here but also on the "other" forum
The whole frustrating situation can be put to bed pretty simply with some basic information provided by management in an official announcement
Hopefully that comes sooner rather than later and yep .....the market is a shocker again today!!
Who gives a rats what the " other " forum had to say, full of scumbags not worth conversing with!!
I am pretty sure i speak for many folk here and say i enjoy your humour , your candidness, so stop worrying about what others think, just continue being you.....
This shit house scenario that has been playing out for the last 10 months has everyone on edge, until as you rightfully say, management cool our nerves with some positive official announcements.
Until then..........
MoneyBags1348
Top 20
TC you seem to have pretty good internet connection on that secret island you're on.... Going by that picture it looks like you're using one of Elon's new satellite connections. You know I was taking a week off and here you are mentioning me in your post.... I knew I was pushing things a little when I kept referring to your torn retina as a torn rectum and I see you are now having your revenge
Nice!!As far as the Chinese, too many people on here seem to have forgotten that they are the real enemy, not our exec's and BOD, it's
Boatman and Tommy
Zigin, Huayou, Lithium Plus and possibly Yibin
Cong, Eckhof (Jerkoff), Eric Allard (Tantalex) and a few DRC politicians
I'm sick of the constant winging on here by the people who don't even do any research, and don't put any energy into helping other shareholders and the company.... try aiming your vitriol at those in the list above, not our company
I'm so fucken sick of the wingers on here, don't expect me to reply to anyone.... Password change imminent
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obe wan: don't take what others say to heart I, and no doubt many others have a lot of respect for you. So much of what you post is of a very high standed and is very much appreciated.
cruiser51
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Green dragon still appeared on the screen, just didn't get a Guernsey.
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