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Cumquat Cap

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Wonder if CATH will still be in the fold after this purported shake up? I very much hope so.

We need some Chinese firepower involved to assuage Zijin and those pricks from trying to delay us at every stage SHOULD avz go mining (or at least pretend to).
 
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Wonder if CATH will still be in the fold after this purported shake up? I very much hope so.

We need some Chinese firepower involved to assuage Zijin and those pricks from trying to delay us at every stage SHOULD avz go mining (or at least pretend to).
Why would they not have spoken up in defence of AVZ at some stage during this assault by Zijin and other corrupt scum? Each way bet win-win result for CATH regardless if Zijin got a slice or not. I hope the put their shoulder to the wheel to push things along when all the ownership and ML issues are sorted
 
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#RDC #Mining Of the 27 million USD received from a contract, the Chinese of a subcontractor company only handed over 680,000 FC to their Congolese co-shareholder

The Chinese are satanist devil sorcerers in the Congolese mines. They cheat in all the mines starting with Sicomines then TFM and others.

Geez Franck, tell it like it is!
 
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Cumquat Cap

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Actually not a bad point Dazza, could do without their ownership and they can have the spod OT's

Just feel we need some sort of chinese firepower that's friendly and willing to accept a small % ownership - might be crazy
 
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Actually not a bad point Dazza, could do without their ownership and they can have the spod OT's

Just feel we need some sort of chinese firepower that's friendly and willing to accept a small % ownership - might be crazy

You don't want the Chinese anywhere near a board seat on Dathcom or AVZ and that includes CATH.

If you are Chinese, all roads lead to Beijing - there is no such thing as Good Cop/Bad Cop - its just the CCP.

I am thinking that the Japanese/Americans would make better partners.

Just a thought bubble.

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DRC: the AVZ Minerals delegation visits the CAMI headquarters​


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  • Tuesday, August 15, 2023 - 15:18

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On August 15, 2023, an AVZ Minerals delegation made a courtesy visit to the headquarters of the Mining Cadastre, where it was warmly received by the Director General, Mr. Paul Mabolia and the Deputy Director General, Mr. Jacques Muyumba.
This visit had a double objective. First of all, it aimed to present the civilities of AVZ Minerals to the newly installed management committee and simultaneously, to discuss the social and economic benefits for the DRC of the Lithium exploitation project in the Manono by the company DATHCOM. The AVZ Minerals delegation was composed of Mr. Nigel Ferguson, CEO of the company AVZ Minerals, Mr. Landry Me
This meeting was of particular importance, especially since it marks the resumption of working sessions between the Minerary Cadastre and AVZ Minerals Ltd on the above-mentioned project.

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For its part, DG CAMI, Mr. Paul Mabolia, was fully satisfied with this initiative and expressed his enthusiasm for the prospects for future collaboration. He also expressed his willingness to get personally involved, under the supervision of the Ministry of Mines, to ensure the success of the Manono project.
As a reminder, this project is of paramount importance, because it has the potential to transform the entire Greater Katanga region through the exploitation of lithium, a highly coveted ore. AVZ Minerals Ltd's unwavering commitment to the realization of this project is harmoniously combined with the vision of the Head of State, His Excellency Félix Antoine Tshisekedi, as well as with the senior management of the mining cadastre. This courtesy visit strengthens existing ties and lays the foundations for fruitful collaboration, aimed at achieving the ambitious objectives of the Manono project.
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"On August 15, 2023, an AVZ Minerals delegation made a courtesy visit to the headquarters of the Mining Cadastre, where it was warmly received by the Director General, Mr. Paul Mabolia and the Deputy Director General, Mr. Jacques Muyumba."

That tone in bold is alot more harmonious than what the previous Director General Mr Mupande had to offer........;)

And Nigel with a cheshire grin.....;)

DRC - AFRICA Battery metal summit in Kinshasa 20 /21 September ....;)

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You don't want the Chinese anywhere near a board seat on Dathcom or AVZ and that includes CATH.

If you are Chinese, all roads lead to Beijing - there is no such thing as Good Cop/Bad Cop - its just the CCP.

I am thinking that the Japanese/Americans would make better partners.

Just a thought bubble.

SilentOne.
I agree mostly with this thought bubble SilentOne,

However, it's more a trivial quibble on semantics where I would posit that CATH have in fact been playing good cop, where they have offered a fair enough deal in the 24% purchase without the usual Chinese shitfuckery, they have publicly stood by us by honouring this deal via 247 thousand extensions. Thereby fulfilling their role.

I certainly agree that all roads lead to CCP, Zijin being the main state player was allowed to proceed via their preferred method known as to 'ratfuck' their way in via bribes and criminal activity. The CCP's second option is plan B (CATH) if for some unknown reason DRC finds its soul/conscience.

The deposit is far too large and globally significant for only one method/plan for the Chinese, enter CATH, hence also Simon Cong via Dathomir also buzzing around and known sympathisers/beneficiaries like Klaus becoming involved again.

Definitely agree with the Japanese or Americans. That would be a dream, or would it?
It would certainly give the Chinese more reason to continue their high calibre shitfuckery, we could end up with port authorities bribed meaning huge delays on parts, plants, machinery. Bribery of police, governors, local magistrates, employing of looters meaning missing materials, burnt out machinery. These guys are professional fuckwits, would it be easier to just have CATH (the lessor evil) on board (but obviously in a lower capacity not on BOD)

Well, got to the end and have an overwhelming feeling I've just committed an offence of brain diarrhoea!

won't be the last time :ROFLMAO:
 
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Actually not a bad point Dazza, could do without their ownership and they can have the spod OT's

Just feel we need some sort of chinese firepower that's friendly and willing to accept a small % ownership - might be crazy
Hmm you've just made me realise a possability from what I've heard.
So I'll throw out another specualtion of mine.
Deal with CATH altered for less ownership %, and they pre-pay us for offtakes instead.
Just speculating :)
 
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I agree mostly with this thought bubble SilentOne,

However, it's more a trivial quibble on semantics where I would posit that CATH have in fact been playing good cop, where they have offered a fair enough deal in the 24% purchase without the usual Chinese shitfuckery, they have publicly stood by us by honouring this deal via 247 thousand extensions. Thereby fulfilling their role.

I certainly agree that all roads lead to CCP, Zijin being the main state player was allowed to proceed via their preferred method known as to 'ratfuck' their way in via bribes and criminal activity. The CCP's second option is plan B (CATH) if for some unknown reason DRC finds its soul/conscience.

The deposit is far too large and globally significant for only one method/plan for the Chinese, enter CATH, hence also Simon Cong via Dathomir also buzzing around and known sympathisers/beneficiaries like Klaus becoming involved again.

Definitely agree with the Japanese or Americans. That would be a dream, or would it?
It would certainly give the Chinese more reason to continue their high calibre shitfuckery, we could end up with port authorities bribed meaning huge delays on parts, plants, machinery. Bribery of police, governors, local magistrates, employing of looters meaning missing materials, burnt out machinery. These guys are professional fuckwits, would it be easier to just have CATH (the lessor evil) on board (but obviously in a lower capacity not on BOD)

Well, got to the end and have an overwhelming feeling I've just committed an offence of brain diarrhoea!

won't be the last time :ROFLMAO:
It would be deviously pleasurable to see us partner with all non chinese entities, then watch them BEG for off-takes for the best SPOD in the world, as supply dries up.
Just a fantasy though, not likely,
 
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Apologies @JasonM, I meant this week. Got my dates mixed up, I'm from the future
What are you calling for exactly anyway Mr?
You said just "news" but gee that could be anything.
Are you talking Licenece or perhaps a step before that?
 
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Skar

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Boy oh boy, wouldn’t they love some nice pure spod to feed into those batteries.
Nothing beats the pure white powder, you can really tell the difference on quality …..

Hardrock miners would want lithium ternary batteries to be the main chemistry not LFP. My understanding is Brine goes to carbonate goes into LFP, spod gets concentrate and processed into hydroxide which goes into ternary chemistries. Hydroxide can be converted to carbonate but its an extra step.
 
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Hmm you've just made me realise a possability from what I've heard.
So I'll throw out another specualtion of mine.
Deal with CATH altered for less ownership %, and they pre-pay us for offtakes instead.
Just speculating :)

I think you should stop speculating Az

Pre payments for offtakes results in money not being paid for the offtakes when the mine is operating and money is required for OPEX, maintenance, mine expansions, returns to investors etc.

It results in capital raising via share dilution or more debt and there will already be enough of that involved in building the mine.

China’s slowing economic growth and other factors mean lower prices offered now compared to later when demand - supply is supposed to shift in favour of higher prices

Truth is I am getting really fucken sick of reading all the bullshit on here lately
 
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I think you should stop speculating Az

Pre payments for offtakes results in money not being paid for the offtakes when the mine is operating and money is required for OPEX, maintenance, mine expansions, returns to investors etc.

It results in capital raising via share dilution or more debt and there will already be enough of that involved in building the mine.

China’s slowing economic growth and other factors mean lower prices offered now compared to later when demand - supply is supposed to shift in favour of higher prices

Truth is I am getting really fucken sick of reading all the bullshit on here lately
I always thought of it like a no interest loan, but I didn't think of what you said, you're right of course. Although dilution would be less of a loss than a greater ownership % of the stock you do hold.
What does it matter anyway what people speculate, it will have no bearing on whatever situation AVZ come out with.
We're all here to talk shit mate.
You're keeping a fantastic record in the other threads, this thread is for bullshit :)
 
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Definitely want to have one or more strong equity partners providing funding for the construction phase of the project

$240M from CATH for a 24% stake goes a long way towards seeing the project a reality

With a keen interest in the end product and skin in the game I think CATH would be there for the long haul and a valuable partner to work with given their size and expertise
 
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Definitely want to have one or more strong equity partners providing funding for the construction phase of the project

$240M from CATH for a 24% stake goes a long way towards seeing the project a reality

With a keen interest in the end product and skin in the game I think CATH would be there for the long haul and a valuable partner to work with given their size and expertise
Yes Nut, I believe they will get behind us when there is Zero chance of chinese ownership. If Mr Pei were to have a small tea party with Mr Ji regarding the holdup of a never ending supply of lithium for the chinese battery manufacturing industry then I am sure Zijin would disappear faster than Comminiere accepts a bag of cash!
 
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Yes Nut, I believe they will get behind us when there is Zero chance of chinese ownership. If Mr Pei were to have a small tea party with Mr Ji regarding the holdup of a never ending supply of lithium for the chinese battery manufacturing industry then I am sure Zijin would disappear faster than Comminiere accepts a bag of cash!
Nothing in this world is that quick.
 
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then I am sure Zijin would disappear faster than Comminiere accepts a bag of cash!
Wow that's a strong statement, a statement and a half.

Are you trying to pick a fight with Kibeya, are you a madman!

He will feel incredibly insulted by the suggestion, the mere insinuation that there is a force or an energy known to mankind that is even close to his complete lack of conscience and moral compass that strongly leads into his legendary rapid reactions towards gleefully accepting a bribe

LOL @Onthefm beat me to it 😁
 
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Yes Nut, I believe they will get behind us when there is Zero chance of chinese ownership. If Mr Pei were to have a small tea party with Mr Ji regarding the holdup of a never ending supply of lithium for the chinese battery manufacturing industry then I am sure Zijin would disappear faster than Comminiere accepts a bag of cash!
"If Mr Pei were to have a small tea party with Mr Ji "

What about if Mr Pei had a tea party with Mr Cong ?
 
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