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I'm going by mainly this tweet and his responses to it. Not so much antiAVZ, just more pro DRC and I feel that he's saying AVZ are taking too much of the project from the DRC.



That's a stretch. Seems like a fairly benign tweet that is supportive of a positive outcome ...

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Retrobyte

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It's not that tweet, it's the replies in it's thread

But none of the replies are from Kiki. You referred to "his responses" to the tweet. Not sure what you're suggesting?
 
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I'm probably clutching at straws, but just felt his tune has shifted a bit
 
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I'm going by mainly this tweet and his responses to it. Not so much antiAVZ, just more pro DRC and I feel that he's saying AVZ are taking too much of the project from the DRC.


I took it as he was trying to flesh-out (not to be confused with the popular fleshlight) the idea/reality that PR05 in his wisdom (insert sarcasm) has appointed those two dickheads to fix the colossus of a mess they have created. Time is ticking, ICC and ICSID approach's mmmmmmm ICSID.

He is aware we want justice, he is also aware that's not a DRC pastime, they much prefer bribes and keeping their populace in poverty. So in my braincell deficient opinion I think he was trying to in essence say/highlight we will need to deal with Corruptomiere and they will HAVE to deal with us too (as they are broke and we have ROFR in the JV), kinda obvious to many here but he is a reporter, so he is bringing the news to those unaware.

He is definitely not against us, but he is definitely for DRC. Franck on the other hand, has a special dislike for Chinese companies in DRC, Francks good, be like Franck 😂
 
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I took it as he was trying to flesh-out (not to be confused with the popular fleshlight) the idea/reality that PR05 in his wisdom (insert sarcasm) has appointed those two dickheads to fix the colossus of a mess they have created. Time is ticking, ICC and ICSID approach's mmmmmmm ICSID.

He is aware we want justice, he is also aware that's not a DRC pastime, they much prefer bribes and keeping their populace in poverty. So in my braincell deficient opinion I think he was trying to in essence say/highlight we will need to deal with Corruptomiere and they will HAVE to deal with us too (as they are broke and we have ROFR in the JV), kinda obvious to many here but he is a reporter, so he is bringing the news to those unaware.

He is definitely not against us, but he is definitely for DRC. Franck on the other hand, has a special dislike for Chinese companies in DRC, Francks good, be like Franck 😂
can we sponsor "be like franck" programs in DRC schools? :)
 
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So the price of 33mill has been set and accepted by Cominiere! I wonder if they will take 31? It is second hand!
 
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I'm probably clutching at straws, but just felt his tune has shifted a bit
Kiki and Franck are good people.
They aren't pro AVZ, they are pro DRC and they will always care about the interests of the DRC first.
AVZ just happen to be good for the DRC so we have their support for now, and thank god for them to be honest.
But they will cast a critical eye on our goings on there, as they should.

One thing that suprised me is that they wern't bribed by Zijin to shut up.

Remember that Kas fellow? He was very pro AVZ, but one day turned 180 on us.
I suspect he was offered something, and if so you know I wouldn't blame him, there's SO much poverty over there.
I don't mean to cast a bad light on him, it's just something I wondered about.
 
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@BEISHA I wasn't referring to Zijin, they are not shareholders in MMCS, whereas some of the DRC pollies (or ex-pollies) allegedly are
Lol, who do you think funds the DRC pollies or hopefully soon to be ex , aka Celestine Kibeya & co ?

Who is funding the Cominiere / Zijin compensation claim against AVZ aka ICC arbitration ?

It certainly aint Cominiere...;)


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I'm going by mainly this tweet and his responses to it. Not so much antiAVZ, just more pro DRC and I feel that he's saying AVZ are taking too much of the project from the DRC.


That’s nice that he wants more for the DRC. By extension it also means that the DRC should ignore its own laws, both legislative (mining code), and contract law (the JV).

He’s actually undermining the idea of rules/based order and (presumably) inadvertently providing cover for those who want to break the rules for their own corrupt purposes.

He needs to either pull back from this nonsense, or advocate for changes to the mining code.
 
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I had a dream last night that Nigel DMed me and told me that people will make at least a 6% profit by end of year. I think he was referring to max share price. So by end of year share price or TO will be $1.45
 
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Thanks for the reminder , now I have to pay my ex her monthly money ,, :mad:
Maybe your ex might like to join our BoD …apparently they get paid monthly as well …we’re all winners with that winning grin
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Geez @JAG you’ve upset that Koolade Kunt …maybe a bit pissed you never sent him/her/it an AVZ cap…just visited the Crapper …no fun there 😐😝🤷‍♂️the only person ive ever put on ignore here but forgot to on Crapper…think it does need a new cap whilst posting
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Geez @JAG you’ve upset that Koolade Kunt …maybe a bit pissed you never sent him/her/it an AVZ cap…just visited the Crapper …no fun there 😐😝🤷‍♂️the only person ive ever put on ignore here but forgot to on Crapper…think it does need a new cap whilst posting
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Firstly, fuck you John for making me visit the Crapper😂

Koolade really has it in for @JAG,

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but it's good to see @wombat74 got your back @JAG.

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Apologies for bringing the Crapper here but @John25 made me do it.
 
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Kiki and Franck are good people.
They aren't pro AVZ, they are pro DRC and they will always care about the interests of the DRC first.
AVZ just happen to be good for the DRC so we have their support for now, and thank god for them to be honest.
But they will cast a critical eye on our goings on there, as they should.

One thing that suprised me is that they wern't bribed by Zijin to shut up.

Remember that Kas fellow? He was very pro AVZ, but one day turned 180 on us.
I suspect he was offered something, and if so you know I wouldn't blame him, there's SO much poverty over there.
I don't mean to cast a bad light on him, it's just something I wondered about.
Just to remember...

The average Congolese person is 500% more patriotic pro DRC than the average Australian is pro Australia.
Insulting their President, or their leaders is seen in a different light than us writing against our PM, or our ministers.

The DRC is a very young nation, fighting for its independence, still is, and yes as part of that with corruption.
The Congolese are very passionate in everything they do, even their patriotism.
Not understanding this, while investing in countries like the DRC is not smart.

Maybe some could take some history classes this weekend about the DRC to help shaping their understanding of that country and its population.

I hope this helps.
 
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Lol, who do you think funds the DRC pollies or hopefully soon to be ex , aka Celestine Kibeya & co ?

Who is funding the Cominiere / Zijin compensation claim against AVZ aka ICC arbitration ?

It certainly aint Cominiere...;)


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Forget it, not worth trying to explain. I'm not a stupid dumb cunt, and not many have picked up on what was actually happening with that particular case.

So COMINIERE have the 5% back, (yet to see any proof on RCCM of that, but will assume it's there). That will enable them to cede 10% to the STATE as required by THEIR fucking laws when the ML is issued. 8
 
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Kiki and Franck are good people.
They aren't pro AVZ, they are pro DRC and they will always care about the interests of the DRC first.
AVZ just happen to be good for the DRC so we have their support for now, and thank god for them to be honest.
But they will cast a critical eye on our goings on there, as they should.

One thing that suprised me is that they wern't bribed by Zijin to shut up.

Remember that Kas fellow? He was very pro AVZ, but one day turned 180 on us.
I suspect he was offered something, and if so you know I wouldn't blame him, there's SO much poverty over there.
I don't mean to cast a bad light on him, it's just something I wondered about.

Poverty on a mass scale is the result of extremely poor governance and corruption. Many african leaders will tell us how proud they are of their countries but in reality they are looking after their own interests not the general populace who they don't give a damn about. An exception to this is Botswana. Further, too much reliance is placed on donating countries to feed the poor and that has to STOP.
 
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