AVZ Discussion 2022

[Carlos Danger]

I’ve been contemplating what the MMGA fuckers endgame is (aside from being puppets that are trying to fuck shit up on behalf of their masters) and think this could be a long-game play.

If finalising the current legal actions, ICC and ICSID, are required to get a resolution, then it may be (pick a number) another one or two years that we are in suspension.

So, what have I been thinking:

They couldn’t get the 5% required for an EGM (fucking numpties) so they have used the nomination procedure of the AGM to create a platform.

More than likely, they will use the next few months to sow the seeds of doubt, and potentially tell some bullshit stories to give hope to those that are struggling and need to access funds e.g. we have an MOU for a buyout offer for $X, or the DRC Gov prefer our reach-arounds as they are more “harmonious”.

While they don’t have a chance to get nominated, with enough shitfuckery they may generate up-to the 25% required to vote against the remuneration report, providing the first strike against the board.

Then they, and/or their overlords, have the next 12months to continue to fuck around and maybe generate enough for the second strike at next years AGM.

My only recommendation for LTH’s is to ignore the douchebags and their propaganda, because if they fail to get a first strike at this AGM it should hopefully be enough to fuck up their plan.

Pretty obvious what their plan is. Concede all court cases and proceed with AVZ having minority ownership of Dathcom at 36%. They'll probably agree to the pro rata ceding of the 10% that Cominiere are obligated to transfer to the DRC government too leaving us with 32.4%. China wants to control output from Manono and won't allow the project to proceed until they have it.

It would be extremely surprising to me if the MMGA goons didn't already have significant backing of the register to launch this. Not quite 50% but I reckon they are closer than most realise. We will most likely be out of cash by next years AGM if still no ML so this is their only chance without putting the DRC government into $10b USD worth of debt imo

 

[lellep]

You’re the one sowing the seeds of doubt mate. Long term holders don’t need you recommending what they should do

Throw in as much name calling as you think will make you sound genuine but my money is on you being as sus a cunt as peter huljich

”Sus cunt”

 

[Winenut]

Pretty obvious what their plan is. Concede all court cases and proceed with AVZ having minority ownership of Dathcom at 36%. They'll probably agree to the pro rata ceding of the 10% that Cominiere are obligated to transfer to the DRC government too leaving us with 32.4%. China wants to control output from Manono and won't allow the project to proceed until they have it.

It would be extremely surprising to me if the MMGA goons didn't already have significant backing of the register to launch this. Not quite 50% but I reckon they are closer than most realise. We will most likely be out of cash by next years AGM if still no ML so this is their only chance without putting the DRC government into $10b USD worth of debt imo

What da fuck are you talking about Carlos????

"Pretty obvious what their plan is. Concede all court cases and proceed with AVZ having minority ownership of Dathcom at 36%. They'll probably agree to the pro rata ceding of the 10% that Cominiere are obligated to transfer to the DRC government too leaving us with 32.4%."

Where in fucking hell did you come up with that?

If AVZ don't have 51% of Dathcom minimum no-one moves forward

MMGA not quite 50% of the register of AVZ but close.......WTF?!!!

Geezus fuck

 

[Carlos Danger]

What da fuck are you talking about Carlos????

"Pretty obvious what their plan is. Concede all court cases and proceed with AVZ having minority ownership of Dathcom at 36%. They'll probably agree to the pro rata ceding of the 10% that Cominiere are obligated to transfer to the DRC government too leaving us with 32.4%."

Where in fucking hell did you come up with that?

If AVZ don't have 51% of Dathcom minimum no-one moves forward

MMGA not quite 50% of the register of AVZ but close.......WTF?!!!

Geezus fuck


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First part is based on what MMGA are saying on their website and Tommy's original article where he gloated about AVZ losing control and ending up with 36%. That idea wasn't his imo. I can't see how else this will move forward seeing as the key decision makers clearly don't like us for not giving them snacks.

The applicant Dathcom needs 51% not AVZ imo. Although last time we disagreed on something in the mining code you schooled me and are probably about to again haha

Second part is pure speculation on my part but I just can't see them doing this for the lulz. Hope I'm wrong. Have been about plenty in the past

 

[cruiser51]

DRC: irregular seizure of the accounts of the Roads Office, Rose Mutombo demands the suspension of the effects of jurisdictional acts!​

September 9, 2023

Saturday, September 9, 2023-The Minister of Justice, Rose Mutombo Kiesse, instructs the inspector general of judicial and penitentiary services of the Kinshasa/Gombe high court to suspend the effects of the jurisdictional acts of the seizure of the accounts of the Roads Office.​

In a letter signed this Saturday, September 9, the Minister of Justice described this seizure as “irregular.” »
She believes that this paralyzes the work of general interest carried out by the Roads Office across the country.
» I instruct you to suspend the effects of the jurisdictional acts and have the bailiffs' acts listed above withdrawn, while ensuring that no bank in which its assets are housed submits to any measure of forced execution with regard to this " , we read in this correspondence from Rose Mutombo Kiesse, a copy of which our editorial team has intercepted.

According to the head of justice, after analysis of the file, the execution continued by the general inspector of judicial and penitentiary services of the Kinshasa/Gombe high court on property and assets of the Roads Office is is made in violation of the law.
Rose Mutombo Kiesse also calls on the attorney general at the court of Kinshasa/Gombe to open a judicial investigation against these two bailiffs and to initiate proceedings against them for in particular "violation of the provisions of article 175 of the Law No. 22/069 of December 27, 2022 relating to the activity and control of credit institutions.”
This decision to suspend jurisdictional effects will have the advantage of propelling the Roads Office into the mission assigned to it by the Congolese State.

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Franck Fwamba

@FranckFwamba

La Ministre de Justice desapprouve avec raison une decision judiciaire envers OR. Il le fallait, faut aussi pour Dathcom. RDC : saisie irrégulière des Comptes de l’Office des Routes, Rose Mutombo exige la suspension des effets des actes juridictionnels !

Translated from French

The Minister of Justice rightly disapproves of a judicial decision against OR. It was necessary, and also necessary for Dathcom. DRC: irregular seizure of the accounts of the Roads Office, Rose Mutombo demands the suspension of the effects of jurisdictional acts!



okapinews.net
RDC : saisie irrégulière des Comptes de l'Office des Routes, Rose Mutombo exige la suspension des...
Dans une correspondance signée ce samedi 9 septembre, la ministre de la justice a qualifié cette saisie d' " irrégulière. "

6:14 PM · Sep 10, 2023

 

[LowRoller88]

You’re the one sowing the seeds of doubt mate. Long term holders don’t need you recommending what they should do

Throw in as much name calling as you think will make you sound genuine but my money is on you being as sus a cunt as peter huljich

Sorry petal, my post wasn’t meant to upset anyone, but I can see that there are some delicate and sensitive people that read TSE.

I’ll consider posting a trigger warning on future posts so you can just close your eyes and scroll past.

 

[Dazmac66]

Sorry petal, my post wasn’t meant to upset anyone, but I can see that there are some delicate and sensitive people that read TSE.

I’ll consider posting a trigger warning on future posts so you can just close your eyes and scroll past.

Do you think we are idiots and can't see through you shit! Piss off.
FUD
Fear, uncertainty and doubt (often shortened to FUD) is a manipulative propaganda tactic used in sales, marketing, public relations, politics, polling and cults. FUD is generally a strategy to influence perception by disseminating negative and dubious or false information, and is a manifestation of the appeal to fear.

 

[David Krappenschitz]

First part is based on what MMGA are saying on their website and Tommy's original article where he gloated about AVZ losing control and ending up with 36%. That idea wasn't his imo. I can't see how else this will move forward seeing as the key decision makers clearly don't like us for not giving them snacks.

The applicant Dathcom needs 51% not AVZ imo. Although last time we disagreed on something in the mining code you schooled me and are probably about to again haha

Second part is pure speculation on my part but I just can't see them doing this for the lulz. Hope I'm wrong. Have been about plenty in the past

But 36% relies on AVZ selling the 24% to CATH, which they wouldn’t do anyway unless they were certain of retaining majority ownership post CATH deal (ie holding 75% before deal). Tommy 36% statement was just baseless FUD on anticipation AVZ was to come out of halt. Imo

 

[Lichione]

Pretty obvious what their plan is. Concede all court cases and proceed with AVZ having minority ownership of Dathcom at 36%. They'll probably agree to the pro rata ceding of the 10% that Cominiere are obligated to transfer to the DRC government too leaving us with 32.4%. China wants to control output from Manono and won't allow the project to proceed until they have it.

It would be extremely surprising to me if the MMGA goons didn't already have significant backing of the register to launch this. Not quite 50% but I reckon they are closer than most realise. We will most likely be out of cash by next years AGM if still no ML so this is their only chance without putting the DRC government into $10b USD worth of debt imo

Regarding the 2nd part, what I have heard is, they are puppets of some big players, both Chinese and non Chinese. So, agreed with Carols, they should have the significant backing.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

You’re the one sowing the seeds of doubt mate. Long term holders don’t need you recommending what they should do

Throw in as much name calling as you think will make you sound genuine but my money is on you being as sus a cunt as peter huljich

Jesus Christ, they're just sharing their views, stop acting like a Nazi. Jumping at shadows you pussy .
This place is a forum and new posters should not be afraid of posting their views for fear of the scary MoneyBags

 

[Hodlandwin69]

Anyway, negotiations to really pick up towards mid-late sept when board return to DRC

 

[John25]

 

[Retrobyte]

Anyway, negotiations to really pick up towards mid-late sept when board return to DRC

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Jesus Christ, they're just sharing their views, stop acting like a Nazi. Jumping at shadows you pussy .
This place is a forum and new posters should not be afraid of posting their views for fear of the scary MoneyBags

I’ve been here since we first went into suspension supporting AVZ and all genuine shareholders. I knew you were a fuckwit and your posts were rubbish when you first started posting here dick licker.

You and your mate from the crapper just let me know if you plan on going to a Sydney roadshow and we’ll see who the pussy’s are fuckwit.

 

[John25]

Jesus Christ, they're just sharing their views, stop acting like a Nazi. Jumping at shadows you pussy .
This place is a forum and new posters should not be afraid of posting their views for fear of the scary MoneyBags

Shit ……Bags

 

[Charbella]

US, Saudi Arabia in talks to secure metals in Africa – WSJ​

Reuters | September 10, 2023 | 10:18 am Battery Metals Energy Intelligence Africa Asia USA Cobalt Copper Lithium

US President Joe Biden and Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman bin Abdulaziz. (Image by the Saudi Press Agency, Wikimedia Commons.)
The United States and Saudi Arabia are in talks to secure metals in Africa needed to help them with their energy transitions, the Wall Street Journalreported on Sunday, citing people with knowledge of the talks.

A state-backed Saudi venture would buy stakes in mining assets worth $15 billion in African countries such as the Democratic Republic of Congo, Guinea and Namibia, which will permit US companies to have rights to buy some of the production, the report added.

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The US is in a race to catch up with China for supplies of cobalt, lithium and other metals that are used in electric car batteries, laptops and smartphones.
In a similar arrangement in July, Saudi Arabian Mining Co (Ma’aden) and the Saudi Public Investment Fund (PIF) acquired 10% of Brazilian Vale’s base metal unit, while US investment firm Engine No. 1 acquired 3%.
The newspaper said the PIF approached Congo in June about investing in cobalt, copper and tantalum in the country via its $3 billion joint venture with Ma’aden called Manara Minerals
Manara is also focusing on iron ore, nickel and lithium.
The White House is seeking the financial backing of other sovereign-wealth funds in the region, but talks with Saudi Arabia have progressed the farthest, the Journal added.
The Saudi government and The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment.
(Reporting by Urvi Dugar in Bengaluru; Editing by Cynthia Osterman).

https://x.com/mining/status/1700954840489152791?s=12

 

[Charbella]

Anyway, negotiations to really pick up towards mid-late sept when board return to DRC

Let’s start by sharing valuable insights and reliable information.

 

[John25]

Merchandise for sale …have to make $$$ somehow coming to your State SOON

 

[Charbella]

DRC: irregular seizure of the accounts of the Roads Office, Rose Mutombo demands the suspension of the effects of jurisdictional acts!​

September 9, 2023

Saturday, September 9, 2023-The Minister of Justice, Rose Mutombo Kiesse, instructs the inspector general of judicial and penitentiary services of the Kinshasa/Gombe high court to suspend the effects of the jurisdictional acts of the seizure of the accounts of the Roads Office.​

In a letter signed this Saturday, September 9, the Minister of Justice described this seizure as “irregular.” »
She believes that this paralyzes the work of general interest carried out by the Roads Office across the country.
» I instruct you to suspend the effects of the jurisdictional acts and have the bailiffs' acts listed above withdrawn, while ensuring that no bank in which its assets are housed submits to any measure of forced execution with regard to this " , we read in this correspondence from Rose Mutombo Kiesse, a copy of which our editorial team has intercepted.

According to the head of justice, after analysis of the file, the execution continued by the general inspector of judicial and penitentiary services of the Kinshasa/Gombe high court on property and assets of the Roads Office is is made in violation of the law.
Rose Mutombo Kiesse also calls on the attorney general at the court of Kinshasa/Gombe to open a judicial investigation against these two bailiffs and to initiate proceedings against them for in particular "violation of the provisions of article 175 of the Law No. 22/069 of December 27, 2022 relating to the activity and control of credit institutions.”
This decision to suspend jurisdictional effects will have the advantage of propelling the Roads Office into the mission assigned to it by the Congolese State.

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Franck Fwamba
@FranckFwamba

La Ministre de Justice desapprouve avec raison une decision judiciaire envers OR. Il le fallait, faut aussi pour Dathcom. RDC : saisie irrégulière des Comptes de l’Office des Routes, Rose Mutombo exige la suspension des effets des actes juridictionnels !

Translated from French

The Minister of Justice rightly disapproves of a judicial decision against OR. It was necessary, and also necessary for Dathcom. DRC: irregular seizure of the accounts of the Roads Office, Rose Mutombo demands the suspension of the effects of jurisdictional acts!

okapinews.net
RDC : saisie irrégulière des Comptes de l'Office des Routes, Rose Mutombo exige la suspension des...
Dans une correspondance signée ce samedi 9 septembre, la ministre de la justice a qualifié cette saisie d' " irrégulière. "

6:14 PM · Sep 10, 2023

Hi Cruiser, what is Franck trying to say in his post? Is it a translation issue, I can’t seem to understand.

 

[Doc]

Merchandise for sale …have to make $$$ somehow coming to your State SOON
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