AVZ Discussion 2022

[grassseeds]

I believe that many shareholders are underestimating the attempt by Hulich etc to get on AVZ Board. I see it as a major concern. I raised the issue directly with AVZ 12 months ago ( i also discussed it after the AGM ) and expressed my concern about the large Chinese shareholding. My concern was the effect it would have on Board positions if they nominated for Director positions and combined their shareholding. We know that they have over 20% shareholding but they may have a number of other smaller shareholders lifting the combined holdings to close to 30%. As some others have stated Hulich etc i believe is a trojan horse acting for the Chinese shareholders. If you look at what percentage of voting shareholders you need to get control of a company the number could be as low as 30% and generally less than 50%. At the last AGM only about 39% of all shareholders voted. We don't know the breakup. To counteract the possible Chinese block voting we probably need at least 30% of Institutional and retail shareholders to vote for the current board. Note only votes that are submitted to the AGM resolutions can be counted. It would appear that AVZ will need some positive news before the AGM to counteract the Hulich etc attempt to get on the board. The only other alternative is for AVZ to get a new shareholder to invest and have their vote supporting the current board.

We are getting to the pointy end of this saga and hopefully, long term retail shareholders are not shafted.

 

[Winenut]

Everyone should get their head around section 14 of the Constitution (from page 36) and absolutely make sure we do not let ANY of the slimy fuckers involved with the thieving and corrupt MMGA movement achieve a position on the Board of AVZ Minerals

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...2/AVZ+Proposed+Constitution+November+2019.pdf

MMGA are a desperate collection of individuals who have their own financial agenda for Manono that does NOT include you
MMGA do not act in the interests of LT AVZ holders
MMGA want to steal Manono and flog it for peanuts
MMGA is aligned with corruption and nefarious business practices
MMGA is veiled in secrecy and its backers are largely unknown
MMGA want your money and do not care how they get it
MMGA and their activities can cause you substantial financial harm

 

[Deleted member 2378]

I’ve been here since we first went into suspension supporting AVZ and all genuine shareholders. I knew you were a fuckwit and your posts were rubbish when you first started posting here dick licker.

You and your mate from the crapper just let me know if you plan on going to a Sydney roadshow and we’ll see who the pussy’s are fuckwit.

If we get out of this shit in a positive way I hereby officially challenge you to a fight. You can choose in normal boxing, kickboxing or a mma fight. I prefer a mma fight, it’s your chance to show your skills.

We rent a hall with a ring and a referee and turn it into a shareholder event. The proceeds will be donated to Manono folks. Every shareholder can come and the bod of course too.

Later we can decide if we make a rematch in the country of the other one. If we don’t get out of it positive, my challenge still stands but you have to pay the cost because unfortunately I don’t have the money for it in that case.

Do you accept?

 

[John25]

If we get out of this shit in a positive way I hereby officially challenge you to a fight. You can choose in normal boxing, kickboxing or a mma fight. I prefer a mma fight, it’s your chance to show your skills.

We rent a hall with a ring and a referee and turn it into a shareholder event. The proceeds will be donated to Manono folks. Every shareholder can come and the bod of course too.

Later we can decide if we make a rematch in the country of the other one. If we don’t get out of it positive, my challenge still stands but you have to pay the cost because unfortunately I don’t have the money for it in that case.

Do you accept?

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

If we get out of this shit in a positive way I hereby officially challenge you to a fight. You can choose in normal boxing, kickboxing or a mma fight. I prefer a mma fight, it’s your chance to show your skills.

We rent a hall with a ring and a referee and turn it into a shareholder event. The proceeds will be donated to Manono folks. Every shareholder can come and the bod of course too.

Later we can decide if we make a rematch in the country of the other one. If we don’t get out of it positive, my challenge still stands but you have to pay the cost because unfortunately I don’t have the money for it in that case.

Do you accept?

 

[Xerof]

this happens for every GM for any company on ASX... those that dont vote or appoint a proxy are allocated at the chair's discretion... so we don't have to fear those that forget or can't be bothered...

Ok, I've taken on board what you and retro have posted and I think what you say is misleading. Bear with me, I'm no expert

The Chair only picks up undirected votes in certain circumstances, as you have shown in a later post, but it's a minimal number usually, based on all those conditions in Section 250BC

My position on this is (and I have voted ASX meetings by proxy for yonks, and have rallied shareholders to make sure they appoint proxies) you MUST complete your proxy if you don't intend voting at the meeting. By proxy, you can appoint anyone, or the Chair and you can direct that person how you wish to vote, OR NOT.

My main point is if you do nothing prior to the meeting to appoint a proxy, whether directed or undirected, then you aren't having your say

Typically only 30% of eligible votes are made on resolutions, so IMO, we may need to marshall the troops

If these clowns can marshall 30% of shares in their favour, we will need to rally the troops to lodge proxies, with direction (as @cruiser51 says) to make sure of retaining the best board on the ASX, if it gets to being on the agenda

In your example from last years meeting, tell me where the other 2 billion votes went - they are certainly not all excluded by conflict of interest - they just didn't vote at the meeting or didn't appoint proxies

Proxy discretion is where voters appoint chair or someone else, with no direction on how they will vote, thereby leaving it to the proxy.

This may be fucking important

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[Bin59]

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Everyone should get their head around section 14 of the Constitution (from page 36) and absolutely make sure we do not let ANY of the slimy fuckers involved with the thieving and corrupt MMGA movement achieve a position on the Board of AVZ Minerals

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...2/AVZ+Proposed+Constitution+November+2019.pdf

MMGA are a desperate collection of individuals who have their own financial agenda for Manono that does NOT include you
MMGA do not act in the interests of LT AVZ holders
MMGA want to steal Manono and flog it for peanuts
MMGA is aligned with corruption and nefarious business practices
MMGA is veiled in secrecy and its backers are largely unknown
MMGA want your money and do not care how they get it
MMGA and their activities can cause you substantial financial harm

CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 182 Use of position--civil obligations

classic.austlii.edu.au

Agree with the items you listed Winenut, imo the nominees for directors wouldn’t be fit to be directors of AVZ based on 1(a) & 1(b) alone.

 

[TDITD]

Ok, I've taken on board what you and retro have posted and I think what you say is misleading. Bear with me, I'm no expert

The Chair only picks up undirected votes in certain circumstances, as you have shown in a later post, but it's a minimal number usually, based on all those conditions in 14.2.2

My position on this is (and I have voted ASX meetings by proxy for yonks, and have rallied shareholders to make sure they appoint proxies) you MUST complete your proxy if you don't intend voting at the meeting. By proxy, you can appoint anyone, or the Chair and you can direct that person how you wish to vote, OR NOT.

My main point is if you do nothing prior to the meeting to appoint a proxy, whether directed or undirected, then you aren't having your say

Typically only 30% of eligible votes are made on resolutions, so IMO, we may need to marshall the troops

If these clowns can marshall 30% of shares in their favour, we will need to rally the troops to lodge proxies, with direction (as @cruiser51 says) to make sure of retaining the best board on the ASX, if it gets to being on the agenda

In your example from last years meeting, tell me where the other 2 billion votes went - they are certainly not all excluded by conflict of interest - they just didn't vote at the meeting or didn't appoint proxies


This may be fucking important

-2

Our $$$ is at stake here, the only option is for us to rally the troops and put it out there on both here and HC & twitter, FB, community notice boards, shop windows.
We need to be clear it's our fucking company and show these bastards that. So come time to vote we have mobilised our SH and we are all clear on what to do !!

 

[Rediah]

Our $$$ is at stake here, the only option is for us to rally the troops and put it out there on both here and HC & twitter, FB, community notice boards, shop windows.
We need to be clear it's our fucking company and show these bastards that. So come time to vote we have mobilised our SH and we are all clear on what to do !!

I hope before it gets to that point we may have some resolution, if not then will meet in person, perhaps in the dark alley of Valley. I will make sure the heavy hitters in my local group, those who are not part of TSE and HC are aware and they know what and how to vote.

 

[Xerof]

Speaking of Valleys @Rediah

The Charge of the Lightweight Brigade
BY Anonymous

Half a brain, half a brain,
Half a brain between them,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the three clowns.
“Forward, the Lightweight Brigade!
Charge for the Board!” Klaus said.
Into the valley of Death
Rode the three clowns

 

[Samus]

Our $$$ is at stake here, the only option is for us to rally the troops and put it out there on both here and HC & twitter, FB, community notice boards, shop windows.
We need to be clear it's our fucking company and show these bastards that. So come time to vote we have mobilised our SH and we are all clear on what to do !!

Make manono great again!

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Make manono great again!
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Is that our Nells?

 

[Samus]

Is that our Nells?

Yeah and the guy on the bike is Peter the treacherous cunt.... I mean Huljich.

 

[oxxa23]

Ok, I've taken on board what you and retro have posted and I think what you say is misleading. Bear with me, I'm no expert

The Chair only picks up undirected votes in certain circumstances, as you have shown in a later post, but it's a minimal number usually, based on all those conditions in Section 250BC

My position on this is (and I have voted ASX meetings by proxy for yonks, and have rallied shareholders to make sure they appoint proxies) you MUST complete your proxy if you don't intend voting at the meeting. By proxy, you can appoint anyone, or the Chair and you can direct that person how you wish to vote, OR NOT.

My main point is if you do nothing prior to the meeting to appoint a proxy, whether directed or undirected, then you aren't having your say

Typically only 30% of eligible votes are made on resolutions, so IMO, we may need to marshall the troops

If these clowns can marshall 30% of shares in their favour, we will need to rally the troops to lodge proxies, with direction (as @cruiser51 says) to make sure of retaining the best board on the ASX, if it gets to being on the agenda

In your example from last years meeting, tell me where the other 2 billion votes went - they are certainly not all excluded by conflict of interest - they just didn't vote at the meeting or didn't appoint proxies

Proxy discretion is where voters appoint chair or someone else, with no direction on how they will vote, thereby leaving it to the proxy.

This may be fucking important

-2

yep, i'm with you, rushed that on so quick i didn't look at the numbers.... will take that post down, to 1) not confuse anyone else... 2) hide any evidence of me once being wrong from my wife....

 

[Rock Hopper]

Everyone should get their head around section 14 of the Constitution (from page 36) and absolutely make sure we do not let ANY of the slimy fuckers involved with the thieving and corrupt MMGA movement achieve a position on the Board of AVZ Minerals

https://static1.squarespace.com/sta...2/AVZ+Proposed+Constitution+November+2019.pdf

MMGA are a desperate collection of individuals who have their own financial agenda for Manono that does NOT include you
MMGA do not act in the interests of LT AVZ holders
MMGA want to steal Manono and flog it for peanuts
MMGA is aligned with corruption and nefarious business practices
MMGA is veiled in secrecy and its backers are largely unknown
MMGA want your money and do not care how they get it
MMGA and their activities can cause you substantial financial harm

Absolutely agreed, MMGA are a bunch of fools who will sell us LT SHs out the minute they get into the board, and the fact that they’ve launched this bid this late into the game smacks of desperation and should tell everyone everything they should know abt Peter H and his bunch of clowns.

They’re searching for votes in every which corner because they know they don’t have anywhere near the sufficient votes to make it in atm, hence all the hullabaloo abt “representing SHs’ best interests lately”.

If Peter and his clowns were so committed, why did Peter resign under the threat of being voted off the board by large holders in the first place? Where was he all this time over the last year and a half since suspension? Why didn’t he make an attempt last year to assist the BoD in any capacity whatsoever?

His long absence and timing on joining this fight at the very last moment right before the AGM this year when our BoD have been working tirelessly to bring us finally across the line (and we are so very close), is testament to his complete lack of commitment and professional competence, as well as his lack of contrition for the acrimonious conditions under which he left AVZ last time around. Let’s not reward this clown for all the damage he’s already done to the company and the best interests of SHs, him and his pack of goblins deserve to be left in the dust.

 

[LX600]

Could someone representing AVZ shareholders organise a court case against Peter Hudjuct?

 

[Winenut]

There's a decent % that have trouble spelling the name Peter Huljich (cunt)

I suggest we just call him PH from now on and put the fucking acid on him....

 

[Samus]

There's a decent % that have trouble spelling the name Peter Huljich (cunt)

I suggest we just call him PH from now on and put the fucking acid on him....

why don't we just call him cunty instead.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

How can we turn the heat up on this prick?

 

[Xerof]

How can we turn the heat up on this prick?

How did his shares get to Fat Tail