AVZ Discussion 2022

[Chilla]

Certainly, time has shown going the legal route was needed but weren't we dragged into international arbitration before we started firing our legal salvos? (I can't remember timeline of events - I know IGF releasing their report kick started things and then minister decree cancelling the ML was last straw).

I also think we wasted a lot of time along the way and have continued very high capital expenditure while in suspension (to the point we are going to cop some serious dilution just to continue operations) - I also think we have been misled (by DRC gov/partners) and management have had to deal with surprises along the way... the details of which have not been fourth coming because of legal disputes (and the culturally "non-transparent" Africa business climate) - so we are left with twitter noise to fill in the silence (if we rely purely on official announcements the question around spending while in suspension really needs answering - we had DFS done.... waiting on ML... why were we spending all that extra?).

It was necessary to continue spending money on drilling, development of the camp, fuel farm, community aid projects and bringing in equipment to demonstrate AVZ was working on the ground and progressing the project to counter the claims of MoP and Cominere that AVZ were doing nothing and should be stripped of the licence in favour of the brown bag gang Zijin and Cong and Jerkoff.

 

[TDITD]

No offence taken, I probably didn't communicate as well as I ought to have. I think the asset is worth much much much more than that, in terms of lithium in the ground x extremely conservative base case long term spod price - cost of production. So potentially, yes many many multiples more than our ATH SP.

I was discounting for the uncertainty (which is likely what our detractors want). Pragmatically I would take a quick win now (I have an avg price of ~22c over all my holdings) over an uncertain win later... you know what will put wind back in my sails and raise my target price? An ML and positive outcomes from court cases but a negotiated settlement in lieu of all that puts my price at what I said (and counts as a win for me).

Phew,
I realised after sending my communication may not have been upto par either and left the door open for misunderstanding so sent a DM.

Agreed brother, we really are in a ridiculous position here where we may in 5 years be looking back laughing a little with a $15B+ MC, alternatively we could be a year post ICSID successful win wondering where all that $$$ we have legally won is actually going to come from.

We may differ slightly in our quick win prices yes dont play into those prick detractors hands, ahem $12, however I imagine we are all hoping all that talk is simply wasted hot air as the ML is on its way

Come on DRC and BOD make it happen

 

[MoneyBags1348]

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Have work to do LTSH’s …be kind & respectful whilst im away …but no kissing on lips like the Spanish soccer coach
Bags ..keep an eye on those pesky German fuckers
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I think great comments being put forward by @TDITD (TITS), @Chilla and a few others here John

As chilla explained, our exec's have a lot of experience in the DRC, but I doubt the clandestine tactics by the corrupt actors involved could have been predicted. I know Nigel was wary of the Chinese shareholders who were brought on by Petersons in 2019, which was later taken over by Canaccord who have also been involved in our capital raises. I wouldn't mind knowing if Ty (the crook) Ludbrook was involved in either of these companies at the time and whether Canaccord was the broker supposedly trying to buy shares off market a few months back but I suppose neither really matters.

I think the valuations that TITS proposed are close to the mark, I would put a starting figure on our market capital of between $10-$15 billion once FID is made and construction is underway.

 

[MoneyBags1348]

Meanwhile, now this corrupt band of wannabe liars have now posted their exact same deceptive, misleading misinformation article on three sites

Projet Manono Lithium : les prochains administrateurs d'AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non les procès (Communication)

Les actionnaires d'AVZ Minerals vont se réunir, en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner 3 administrateurs, dans le but de regagner la confiance du Gouvernement congolais et de tous les partenaires du projet « Manono lithium ». Les relations entre AVZ et les organismes...

7sur7.cd

RDC : projet Manono Lithium, les prochains administrateurs d’AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non les procès (communiqué)

Communiqué Les actionnaires d’AVZ Minerals vont se réunir en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner trois administrateurs. Ceci, dans le but de regagner la confiance du Gouvernement congolais et de tous les partenaires du projet « Manono lithium ». Les relations entre AVZ et...

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Actualité | Projet Manono Lithium : les prochains administrateurs d'AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non des procès (Communication) | mediacongo.net

Les actionnaires d’AVZ Minerals vont se réunir, en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner 3 administrateurs, dans le but...

www.mediacongo.net

 

[Remark]

Meanwhile, now this corrupt band of wannabe liars have now posted their exact same deceptive, misleading misinformation article on three sites

Projet Manono Lithium : les prochains administrateurs d'AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non les procès (Communication)

Les actionnaires d'AVZ Minerals vont se réunir, en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner 3 administrateurs, dans le but de regagner la confiance du Gouvernement congolais et de tous les partenaires du projet « Manono lithium ». Les relations entre AVZ et les organismes...

7sur7.cd

RDC : projet Manono Lithium, les prochains administrateurs d’AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non les procès (communiqué)

Communiqué Les actionnaires d’AVZ Minerals vont se réunir en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner trois administrateurs. Ceci, dans le but de regagner la confiance du Gouvernement congolais et de tous les partenaires du projet « Manono lithium ». Les relations entre AVZ et...

zoom-eco.net

Actualité | Projet Manono Lithium : les prochains administrateurs d'AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non des procès (Communication) | mediacongo.net

Les actionnaires d’AVZ Minerals vont se réunir, en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner 3 administrateurs, dans le but...

www.mediacongo.net

These articles should have a disclaimer at the bottom stating "Written, spoken (and paid for) by MMGA".

 

[Samus]

Too many cuntys going around in this story.

How about the cocksucker of Zijin's slimy weiner and back-door bandit of jerkoff's pool poop mafia.
Too long?

 

[cruiser51]

G'day John, I was tossing up whether to interrupt the flow of the thread with great comments being put forward by @TDITD (TITS), @Chilla and others but I have had some good chats with you over the months so I thought I'd reply.

I do understand your position and I think that can of beer you were skulling on your back this morning is probably healthier for you than all that spraying you are having to do. As chilla explained, our exec's have a lot of experience in the DRC, but I doubt the clandestine tactics by the corrupt actors involved could have been predicted. I know Nigel was wary of the Chinese shareholders who were brought on by Petersons in 2019, which was later taken over by Canaccord who have also been involved in our capital raises. I wouldn't mind knowing if Ty (the crook) Ludbrook was involved in either of these companies at the time and whether Canaccord was the broker supposedly trying to buy shares off market a few months back but I suppose neither really matters.

I think the valuations that TITS proposed are close to the mark, I would put a starting figure on our market capital of between $10-$15 billion once FID is made and construction is underway. I like the way you find those videos of of those old blokes fighting one of them tries to king hit the other bloke and ends getting dropped by a left hook I'm nothing like that, I still hit a ceiling to floor ball that's a tennis ball and if I did get into a fight I would be looking at punching someone in the throat or breaking their jaw so any talk about it is just bullshit to me.

But you and I are friends as well as animal lovers

Why hit in the throat?
Are you a short arse and do you have to jump to hit the nose? Just curious, am trying to visualise it.

 

[cruiser51]

These articles should have a disclaimer at the bottom stating "Written and spoken by MMGA".

What I think is funny and many people seem to have missed...
They are trying pretty hard to get control of AVZ, that is actually because they are fully aware who is in control.
So Fukkum with a capitol Fukkin F.

 

[Azzler]

I’m not going to tell you my measurements cruiser

DD man boobs no doubt.

 

[whales]

With respect, he wasnt blindsided or totally naive, though the actions of the MoP have been startling. He has been batting them back since 2020. This is a listed ASX company that needs to follow rules of Australian public companies, Australian Law, and doing what is lawful under ASIC. That is what the BoD have been doing. To have done otherwise and acted illegally would result in a total loss once ASIC has had its way if that had happened. The timing of Covid and Lockdowns was extremely unfortunate for AVZ and gave Cong, Cominiere and Zijin the opportunity to pass around the brown bags of influence whilst Nige and Co were restricted in their ability to travel easily to and from DRC to represent in person. AVZ by doing the right thing legally is in a strong position...it takes time for the wheels of international justice to arrive at the correct legal destination. AVZ is arriving very soon.

I get that there is a lot of frustration with the lack of information flow....but this is a legal, political and geopolitical fight for control of a very critical mineral that's important and valuable...you dont go broadcasting your strategy and evidence so that the opposition can take it in advance and twist it and use it to their advantage in the court of social media or DRC political circles.

Now is not the time to be showing and airing weakness and despair and infighting....now is the time to be sticking together and supporting the company to prevent the scum of Jerkoff and Cong and Zijin from stealing yours, mine and OUR investment in AVZ and Manono.

Great Post .
Imo The DRC will not want the issues of corruption to go to court .
Too many Minister's and high public officials exposed .
The opposition party will have access to it and surely use it in its campaign to help possibly remove FT government.
Also makes it a joke that DRC is open for Western investment.
Hopefully a resolution is found

 

[Bray]

I’m not going to tell you my measurements cruiser Punches are thrown from your shoulder height so you are always aiming up if you’re fighting someone the same size and you want to hit their teeth, jaw, chin, nose, cheek bone, orbit bone (below the eye) or wherever. I simply would look to finish things in the least time possible is all. To be honest I’m a big fan of breaking the femur or hip joint but that’s just me. It’s no use winding me up, I’m really not a fan of getting into fights because I know more than most what it involves…. Someone getting hurt

A good titty twister is more effective than any of that rubbish ol boy

 

[MoneyBags1348]

I’m glad you lot are having fun rather than actually doing anything to help the fight against all those corrupt actors who are trying to steal our project, I’m all for having fun and answering people who post a message to me but rather than wasting more time on bullshit, I’ll just get back to trying to think if there’s anything I can personally do to help our cause

 

[hedrox]

More pressure on the green Mamba....

 

[Cumquat Cap]

She is truly evil, and should be gone once Felix re-elected (if he is at all) - use her for the Pious vote then fuck her off

 

[Onthefm]

She is truly evil, and should be gone once Felix re-elected (if he is at all) - use her for the Pious vote then fuck her off

You mean she'll get a promotion if recent history is anything to go on.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

She is truly evil, and should be gone once Felix re-elected (if he is at all) - use her for the Pious vote then fuck her off

If memory serves, Christian virtue is something about being selfless and helping others less fortunate than yourself. I’ve often wondered how people reconcile their personal greed, which has real-world impacts to the less fortunate, against their so-called Christian virtues. I hope it tortures their minds, but it probably does not. Christians after all, do make the best hypocrites.

Just imagine if some morally-bankrupt, sycophantic, cretin posted obsequious comments to said individual on Twitter as a way trying to curry favour for her own company, whilst simultaneously making us look like bastards. Oh wait, that vile kunt Lars already did that.

 

[cruiser51]

A good titty twister is more effective than any of that rubbish ol boy

Meanwhile, now this corrupt band of wannabe liars have now posted their exact same deceptive, misleading misinformation article on three sites

Projet Manono Lithium : les prochains administrateurs d'AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non les procès (Communication)

Les actionnaires d'AVZ Minerals vont se réunir, en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner 3 administrateurs, dans le but de regagner la confiance du Gouvernement congolais et de tous les partenaires du projet « Manono lithium ». Les relations entre AVZ et les organismes...

7sur7.cd

RDC : projet Manono Lithium, les prochains administrateurs d’AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non les procès (communiqué)

Communiqué Les actionnaires d’AVZ Minerals vont se réunir en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner trois administrateurs. Ceci, dans le but de regagner la confiance du Gouvernement congolais et de tous les partenaires du projet « Manono lithium ». Les relations entre AVZ et...

zoom-eco.net

Actualité | Projet Manono Lithium : les prochains administrateurs d'AVZ appelés à privilégier les négociations et non des procès (Communication) | mediacongo.net

Les actionnaires d’AVZ Minerals vont se réunir, en Assemblée générale, le 23 novembre prochain pour désigner 3 administrateurs, dans le but...

www.mediacongo.net

However the writer only signed with his name on Zoom Eco with 'Writing'.
If you click on that name Writing it says "Articles by the editorial name" and after the main heading it says "Press Release".

Zoom Eco:

IN THE NEWS​

DRC: Manono Lithium project, the next administrators of AVZ called to favor negotiations and not trials (press release)​

Published
4 days ago

September 8, 2023
By
Writing

In the other rags the writer was anonymous, so the source highly likely had to pay to get their story published in all three papers.

In Mediacongo and 7sur7 after the heading it states 'Communication'.

It looks like you can get any bullshit posted, as long as the price is right.
Truth in that case is not important.
Problem with these publications is, if you use it as toilet paper, you finish up with cheap ink on your delicate parts.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

However the writer only signed with his name on Zoom Eco with 'Writing'.
If you click on that name Writing it says "Articles by the editorial name" and after the main heading it says "Press Release".

Zoom Eco:

IN THE NEWS​

DRC: Manono Lithium project, the next administrators of AVZ called to favor negotiations and not trials (press release)​

Published
4 days ago

September 8, 2023
By
Writing

In the other rags the writer was anonymous, so the source highly likely had to pay to get their story published in all three papers.

In Mediacongo and 7sur7 after the heading it states 'Communication'.

It looks like you can get any bullshit posted, as long as the price is right.
Truth in that case is not important.
Problem with these publications is, if you use it as toilet paper, you finish up with cheap ink on your delicate parts.

Your work, @cruiser51?

 

[Doc]

However the writer only signed with his name on Zoom Eco with 'Writing'.
If you click on that name Writing it says "Articles by the editorial name" and after the main heading it says "Press Release".

Zoom Eco:

IN THE NEWS​

DRC: Manono Lithium project, the next administrators of AVZ called to favor negotiations and not trials (press release)​

Published
4 days ago

September 8, 2023
By
Writing

In the other rags the writer was anonymous, so the source highly likely had to pay to get their story published in all three papers.

In Mediacongo and 7sur7 after the heading it states 'Communication'.

It looks like you can get any bullshit posted, as long as the price is right.
Truth in that case is not important.
Problem with these publications is, if you use it as toilet paper, you finish up with cheap ink on your delicate parts.

Hmmm do we know a journo who has an obvious agenda against AVZ that wouldn’t want their name published in articles like this….?

 

[Goat]

1. The DRC is a dangerous place, the location of the BODs is a sensitive matter and current location is never revealed.
2. There are many parties doing whatever it takes to illegally acquire either the mining rights or shares held, they are not stopping and infact pushing a little harder right now. The inter-tangled web of corruption, bribery, extortion and blackmail is ever complex and new players arriving to chip in with their effort.
3. The AVZ BOD are working around the clock to get through both the treacherous acts of third parties trying to steal the world class asset as well as do their job of getting things in place to go mining.
4. Nigel has a huge job ahead, but he also has a huge reward and is totally invested in making it work - this is more than likely his last gig. His plans are not to go down with a sinking ship.
5. Despite what's going on, some headway is being made very recently - explicitly what ? I am not privy to such matters.
6. A takeover is not on the cards AT THE PRESENT. There have been offers made numerous times worth a pittance, not even worth communicating to shareholders.
7. The BOD are keeping very quiet for a reason, the ASX is fully supporting their strategic plans at present to not give anything up to those on the outskirts trying to weasel their way in.

Along with my family, I am super heavily invested - I have everything to gain or lose with AVZ. Yes I am frustrated and super stressed about what's at stake, but I believe we as investors need to perhaps just take some chill pills and put some trust in the BOD.
It's increasingly frustrating with the radio silence, but we have to understand Manono is a huge world class asset that will not remain in the ground. Its in the best interest of the DRC to allow it to be dug out by a 3rd party as they know they don't have the skills, funds, professionalism and integrity to do it successfully.

ICSID & ICC was the best thing to happen, the ball is back in the DRCs court to make the next positive and reformed step, anything contrary will make them look like much bigger flogs than they already are.

(Zijin, Cominiere, Felix & The Green Lady can go EAD)