AVZ Discussion 2022

[Hudnut]

Ahh I see you've been swindled by sky news, what else does a PM do but meet and greet, it's their job

Rumour has it der douche is working for MMGA

Sky who?

If all a PM does is meet and greet, a Concierge would be cheaper.

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Me to

DYOR. Do the mathematics. A sale of Dathcom asset in DRC is subject to a DRC Income Tax of 30% if I recall correctly, so the CATH offer worked out to be approx $1.00, not $1.50. After that you'd have to pay CGT in Aust, maybe say 20%, so you'd get AU 80c ? IMO, I would not trust any verbal offer from CATH or Pei. Their true colours are obvious now.

Aus Govt needs to man-up & tell China they have 24 hours to sell their shares in AVZ off-market, back to AVZ at the original <20c buy price.

 

[Deleted member 2378]

yibin, lithium plus & now huayou. Together they have over 600 millionen, this agm voting is going to be crazy. I hope a lot people voted, over 600 millions would be close to the needed 50% if there would be the same amount of votes like the last years. And we only talking about 3 shareholders, I guess there are a lot more Chinese holders in the registry. But this year will be a record of votes.

What could happen to our investment if mmga win?

I mean after „drc law“ we own nothing anymore. If they stop all the court cases we have theoretically no asset with value left and would be worth not a cent. They could easily say the drc law was against us no chance to change it, and fuck us completely. What do you believe is more likely, a complete fuck over, a possible low offer sellout or a little percentage of the south because cominiere is so friendly to us?

 

[Samus]

Where is the feasibility study on this PR15775?

At @cominiereSA. A friend is in conflict with Kamoa over his study. These Chinese could simply use the Dathcom Feasibility Study
@AvzMinerals as in the DRC, they do not carry out studies and explorations, distort the data. Case of @SICOMINES and CMOC at TFM.

 

[Hodlandwin69]

I'm guessing 75% of shares will vote this AGM. MMGA will have say 19% from 1,3, 5th big holders. Then let's say another some randoms make up another 10%. It's likely Chinese affiliated entities have holdings in HSBC custody and BNP Paribas nominees and have asked them to vote for their Chinese portions in a certain way.
Doing the math (assuming my 10% is right from other big holdings and randoms corrupted by MMGA), it gives us about 8.5% buffer from people voting in those custodian accounts.
It's gonna be close.

Shall we all take bets on the percentage outcome rather than beating up on new accounts?

My bets on a 53-47 win for the current board

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

That’s correct , it’s a sacred name and MY name,

View attachment 49910 which conveniently he chose for HIMSELF when he allegedly migrated from HC or shall I say when MMGA revealed DeBoss’s identity.


He all of sudden decided to be so vocal here on TSE, which begs a question why? Why all of a sudden an urge to reply to all the posts?? In his initial posts he/it said, it was watching the forums from “sidelines” and decided to be part of the discussion (now just before the AGM) so much so he can’t stop.

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Then he tried to justify his loyalty for AVZ to Wombat by saying he was also vocal on HC against Tolate. So what is it? He was active on forums for a long time but now wanted to stir things here ? Or he was just “reading” the discussion from side lines.

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So I ask again, which is a true part, sitting at sidelines for too long or posting on HC? When a person is a liar, or with multiple personalities, they cant keep track of what they said where.

TSE doesn’t need his persuasion, and he better change his name to his other confused identities from HC. I am tired of reading his negative narrative under my name. I am going to report to @zeeb0t to send this trash back to HC where it belongs.

Been away for w/e. Caught up 10, 3 pages to go. I hope you got this Y Fkn Troll banned soon. They're wasting too much of our time!

 

[Miljew91]

Wrong 1.75 billion ish is 50%

 

[Samus]

I'll be fucking amazed if they get over 20% - stupid cunts.

Minus Lars, Boatman the MMAGOTS and other trolls and detractors they'd be lucky to get 1-2% of informed shareholders and they might luck out with a smattering of retards.

 

[Miljew91]

so strange that Ive offered to prove to multiple ppl in PM that I am a genuine holder and also who i am on the crapper and X. To add to that Im pro board, anti MMGA and anti chinese coup. Yet instead of a sinlge person attacking me showing some genuineness the attacks persist

truly baffling, it really is

I have no idea how anyone can deny these individuals are attacking like a cult

anywho, if everyone cld just stick to discussing the stock and sticking the site rules all would be fixed, lets see

Whats your HC account then?

 

[UpTheDuff]

bit worried about the Chinese apparently employing locals to start mine operations. When you are hungry, poor and have little hope you don't care who pays you (even if most probably underpaid salaries and their knowledge of disgusting human rights issues). If true it may be difficult to for them just step away and wait for AVZ? the local pastors, communities etc have been banking on this mine development for years... These are key stakeholders, who would be are another piece to adding pressure on the current Government. Dunno, just feel sick about it.

 

[Samus]

Misappropriation of 10 million dollars from Gécamines: will Adèle Kahinda sanction her DIRCABA who is one of the beneficiaries of the kitty?

 

[TLH]

so strange that Ive offered to prove to multiple ppl in PM that I am a genuine holder and also who i am on the crapper and X. To add to that Im pro board, anti MMGA and anti chinese coup. Yet instead of a sinlge person attacking me showing some genuineness the attacks persist

truly baffling, it really is

I have no idea how anyone can deny these individuals are attacking like a cult

anywho, if everyone cld just stick to discussing the stock and sticking the site rules all would be fixed, lets see

LI said all down to your timing.

yibin, lithium plus & now huayou. Together they have over 600 millionen, this agm voting is going to be crazy. I hope a lot people voted, over 600 millions would be close to the needed 50% if there would be the same amount of votes like the last years. And we only talking about 3 shareholders, I guess there are a lot more Chinese holders in the registry. But this year will be a record of votes.

What could happen to our investment if mmga win?

I mean after „drc law“ we own nothing anymore. If they stop all the court cases we have theoretically no asset with value left and would be worth not a cent. They could easily say the drc law was against us no chance to change it, and fuck us completely. What do you believe is more likely, a complete fuck over, a possible low offer sellout or a little percentage of the south because cominiere is so friendly to us?

yibin, lithium plus & now huayou. Together they have over 600 millionen, this agm voting is going to be crazy. I hope a lot people voted, over 600 millions would be close to the needed 50% if there would be the same amount of votes like the last years. And we only talking about 3 shareholders, I guess there are a lot more Chinese holders in the registry. But this year will be a record of votes.

What could happen to our investment if mmga win?

I mean after „drc law“ we own nothing anymore. If they stop all the court cases we have theoretically no asset with value left and would be worth not a cent. They could easily say the drc law was against us no chance to change it, and fuck us completely. What do you believe is more likely, a complete fuck over, a possible low offer sellout or a little percentage of the south because cominiere is so friendly to us?

There are 3.5 billion shares in AVZ so if only 50% vote this would 1.75 billion shares- 600 million of this portion would equate to 34%.
If we get 75% voting amounting to 2.625 billion shares then the 600 million will only be 22% plus the unknown of other Chinese MMGA supporters.
I agree it may be close but we hopefully still have a chance to close MMGA down.
As long as we all vote!

 

[DiscoDanNZ]

Misappropriation of 10 million dollars from Gécamines: will Adèle Kahinda sanction her DIRCABA who is one of the beneficiaries of the kitty?

No one benefits from that horrid kitty

 

[Xerof]

Can check ASX listed LPM and Cath relationship. Cath at least has 5% voting power

It’s LITHIUM PLUS PTY actually who holds 4.99%. That’s Bin Guo as a sleeper.

If people haven’t realised he would always vote MAGGOTS after seeing photos of him meeting those cunts in Perth, then I’m wasting my time explaining this once again

So yes Pei presumably has control of 5%+, but will never declare it formally

 

[Hodlandwin69]

I'll be fucking amazed if they get over 20% - stupid cunts.
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Minus Lars, Boatman the MMAGOTS and other trolls and detractors they'd be lucky to get 1-2% of informed shareholders and they might luck out with a smattering of retards.

Not sure if you're taking the piss, but they pretty much have 20% in the top 20 assuming every share votes. But likely 75% of the vote will turn out, so that already gives them ~27% yes votes out of those that vote

 

[Deleted member 2378]

LI said all down to your timing.


There are 3.5 billion shares in AVZ so if only 50% vote this would 1.75 billion shares- 600 million of this portion would equate to 34%.
If we get 75% voting amounting to 2.625 billion shares then the 600 million will only be 22% plus the unknown of other Chinese MMGA supporters.
I agree it may be close but we hopefully still have a chance to close MMGA down.
As long as we all vote!

Thank you, I had an error in understanding the voting process. After seeing the numbers looks like they will not get in if enough people voted. And this year will be a record, even the most german holders voted this year for the first time.

For the bad chinese, cominiere & mmga

 

[Azzler]

Thank you, I had an error in understanding the voting process. After seeing the numbers looks like they will not get in if enough people voted. And this year will be a record, even the most german holders voted this year for the first time.

For the bad chinese, cominiere & mmga

I think everyone will be suprised at how many people come out to vote this year.

 

[Samus]

Not sure if you're taking the piss, but they pretty much have 20% in the top 20 assuming every share votes. But likely 75% of the vote will turn out, so that already gives them ~27% yes votes out of those that vote

I'm semi taking the piss but I'm not convinced that they have the numbers or that the MMAGOTS are even telling the truth. Let's see what gets revealed over the next few days.
I do however think at least 98% of voting retail investors will see straight through the MMAGOTS strategy and vote appropriately, if not everybody for resolution 1.
I'm not convinced all Chinese shareholders will vote in unison unless the situation is a whole lot more sinister than we already think. How's the CCP going to enforce that without alerting Australian authorities? Sure a few stand to benefit from the MMGA strategy but the rest blow their cash for the competition?
I think we're good, I'm just not getting that sinking feeling in the guts.

If not what then? There will be options, EGM, Firb whatever else. Not a single one of us is going to just sit down and accept the injustice. Anyway let's see. Their strategy in convincing anyone other than their backers is a total flop imo.
If anything they've made a whole lot more people stand up, take notice and vote against them.

 

[SilentOne]

WARNING: This poster could be a TROLL - do your own research

mate ive celebrated 50 times so far and it got me nowhere, what did it amount to? here we are in suspension after 18months with no great end in sight as far as im concerned. I wont even celebrate if the ICC rules we should get our PR back because these chinese snakes still wont back down and these RDC frauds will still look for any loop hole to support their brown bags, if that isnt blatantly obvious to all holders by now then my gosh some ppl need a good slapping. I'll celebrate when the RDC give us our rightful PE and we are trading again, either that or a min of $1.5 payout before a ML or a multibillion dolalr payout in the bank from whoever is liable for our loses. I dont see any of that in our hands now and no longer wish to count my chickens before they hatch

I hold my breath for nothing now when it comes to AVZ

Do you think im happy having what was over $1m worth of shares here that I'd planned to use on the house of my dreams by selling the first parcel when we hit a min of $3, Im not a poor man but im also not mr.moneybags, im comfortable and just pass for a soph inv. ticket, whoopdy do where does $250k py get you with post covid prices and inflation. So yeah Ive learned to not get my hopes up at all over the last two years, and im what id call 'extremely cautiously' optimistic at best nowadays and would prefer to concentrate on our challenges at hand rather than celebrate something that still hasnt got us a PE or us trading again. Im here to make money, not a cult

Ive also learned to take what the board say with a grain of salt, because no matter how accurate it is it's proven to amount to jack shit in terms of progress..I mean come'on.....imminent, expediated, talks with high ranking government officials including Felix, just need to process the fee's, it goes on and on....and here we are in suspension possibly months away from delisting. No idea why anyone would celebrate too much until we have a ML in hand after now knowing very well the vicousness and dodgeyness of our enemy

WARNING: This poster could be a TROLL - do your own research

 

[Remark]