AVZ Discussion 2022

[Deleted member 2378]

LI said all down to your timing.


There are 3.5 billion shares in AVZ so if only 50% vote this would 1.75 billion shares- 600 million of this portion would equate to 34%.
If we get 75% voting amounting to 2.625 billion shares then the 600 million will only be 22% plus the unknown of other Chinese MMGA supporters.
I agree it may be close but we hopefully still have a chance to close MMGA down.
As long as we all vote!

Thank you, I had an error in understanding the voting process. After seeing the numbers looks like they will not get in if enough people voted. And this year will be a record, even the most german holders voted this year for the first time.

For the bad chinese, cominiere & mmga

 

[Azzler]

Thank you, I had an error in understanding the voting process. After seeing the numbers looks like they will not get in if enough people voted. And this year will be a record, even the most german holders voted this year for the first time.

For the bad chinese, cominiere & mmga

I think everyone will be suprised at how many people come out to vote this year.

 

[Samus]

Not sure if you're taking the piss, but they pretty much have 20% in the top 20 assuming every share votes. But likely 75% of the vote will turn out, so that already gives them ~27% yes votes out of those that vote

I'm semi taking the piss but I'm not convinced that they have the numbers or that the MMAGOTS are even telling the truth. Let's see what gets revealed over the next few days.
I do however think at least 98% of voting retail investors will see straight through the MMAGOTS strategy and vote appropriately, if not everybody for resolution 1.
I'm not convinced all Chinese shareholders will vote in unison unless the situation is a whole lot more sinister than we already think. How's the CCP going to enforce that without alerting Australian authorities? Sure a few stand to benefit from the MMGA strategy but the rest blow their cash for the competition?
I think we're good, I'm just not getting that sinking feeling in the guts.

If not what then? There will be options, EGM, Firb whatever else. Not a single one of us is going to just sit down and accept the injustice. Anyway let's see. Their strategy in convincing anyone other than their backers is a total flop imo.
If anything they've made a whole lot more people stand up, take notice and vote against them.

 

[SilentOne]

WARNING: This poster could be a TROLL - do your own research

mate ive celebrated 50 times so far and it got me nowhere, what did it amount to? here we are in suspension after 18months with no great end in sight as far as im concerned. I wont even celebrate if the ICC rules we should get our PR back because these chinese snakes still wont back down and these RDC frauds will still look for any loop hole to support their brown bags, if that isnt blatantly obvious to all holders by now then my gosh some ppl need a good slapping. I'll celebrate when the RDC give us our rightful PE and we are trading again, either that or a min of $1.5 payout before a ML or a multibillion dolalr payout in the bank from whoever is liable for our loses. I dont see any of that in our hands now and no longer wish to count my chickens before they hatch

I hold my breath for nothing now when it comes to AVZ

Do you think im happy having what was over $1m worth of shares here that I'd planned to use on the house of my dreams by selling the first parcel when we hit a min of $3, Im not a poor man but im also not mr.moneybags, im comfortable and just pass for a soph inv. ticket, whoopdy do where does $250k py get you with post covid prices and inflation. So yeah Ive learned to not get my hopes up at all over the last two years, and im what id call 'extremely cautiously' optimistic at best nowadays and would prefer to concentrate on our challenges at hand rather than celebrate something that still hasnt got us a PE or us trading again. Im here to make money, not a cult

Ive also learned to take what the board say with a grain of salt, because no matter how accurate it is it's proven to amount to jack shit in terms of progress..I mean come'on.....imminent, expediated, talks with high ranking government officials including Felix, just need to process the fee's, it goes on and on....and here we are in suspension possibly months away from delisting. No idea why anyone would celebrate too much until we have a ML in hand after now knowing very well the vicousness and dodgeyness of our enemy

WARNING: This poster could be a TROLL - do your own research

 

[Remark]

 

[Elmitso]

Anyone know why the latest company announcements aren't showing up here?

There's some very ballsy comments tucked away within them, I particularly like:

"However, AVZ’s opponents have adopted a strategy of delaying negotiations in anticipation that AVZ
will run out of funds and be unable to protect its rights. The Binding Term Sheet with Locke Capital
demonstrates that this strategy will not succeed. If necessary, AVZ will prosecute all of the proceedings to final hearing."

 

[TLH]

Thank you, I had an error in understanding the voting process. After seeing the numbers looks like they will not get in if enough people voted. And this year will be a record, even the most german holders voted this year for the first time.

For the bad chinese, cominiere & mmga

to guess the outcome as the shareholders outside the top 20 are unknown. Glad our German comrade's have all voted.

Hopefully they

LI said all down to your timing.


There are 3.5 billion shares in AVZ so if only 50% vote this would 1.75 billion shares- 600 million of this portion would equate to 34%.
If we get 75% voting amounting to 2.625 billion shares then the 600 million will only be 22% plus the unknown of other Chinese MMGA supporters.
I agree it may be close but we hopefully still have a chance to close MMGA down.
As long as we all vote!

Thank you, I had an error in understanding the voting process. After seeing the numbers looks like they will not get in if enough people voted. And this year will be a record, even the most german holders voted this year for the first time.

For the bad chinese, cominiere & mmga

Good to hear our German comrades have all voted.
Hopefully not many shares were sold off market.
What confuses me is, each director has the same voting rights so even if 3 of the stooges get in we will still maintain majority vote if we get at least 7 directors elected.
Only issue is confidentiality which is why the new policy was put in place.
Am I getting this part wrong?

 

[Carlos Danger]

What confuses me is, each director has the same voting rights so even if 3 of the stooges get in we will still maintain majority vote if we get at least 7 directors elected.
Only issue is confidentiality which is why the new policy was put in place.
Am I getting this part wrong?

There won't be many shareholders voting for current bod recommendations and MMGA

It's either 7 - 0 or 3 - 2 imo

 

[Schmi46M]

I would be interested to know who AVZ is negotiating with in the DRC government, that would be great if someone who is at the AGM would ask! after MMGA is not chosen and has to leave the room. Thank you
I'm sorry, it was translated with Google because my English is bad.

 

[Strongman]

Hopefully they


Good to hear our German comrades have all voted.
Hopefully not many shares were sold off market.
What confuses me is, each director has the same voting rights so even if 3 of the stooges get in we will still maintain majority vote if we get at least 7 directors elected.
Only issue is confidentiality which is why the new policy was put in place.
Am I getting this part wrong?

If they have the numbers to vote their 3 in then they have the numbers to vote the rest out so result is 3 them and 2 us (existing)

 

[The Fox]

mate ive celebrated 50 times so far and it got me nowhere, what did it amount to? here we are in suspension after 18months with no great end in sight as far as im concerned. I wont even celebrate if the ICC rules we should get our PR back because these chinese snakes still wont back down and these RDC frauds will still look for any loop hole to support their brown bags, if that isnt blatantly obvious to all holders by now then my gosh some ppl need a good slapping. I'll celebrate when the RDC give us our rightful PE and we are trading again, either that or a min of $1.5 payout before a ML or a multibillion dolalr payout in the bank from whoever is liable for our loses. I dont see any of that in our hands now and no longer wish to count my chickens before they hatch

I hold my breath for nothing now when it comes to AVZ

Do you think im happy having what was over $1m worth of shares here that I'd planned to use on the house of my dreams by selling the first parcel when we hit a min of $3, Im not a poor man but im also not mr.moneybags, im comfortable and just pass for a soph inv. ticket, whoopdy do where does $250k py get you with post covid prices and inflation. So yeah Ive learned to not get my hopes up at all over the last two years, and im what id call 'extremely cautiously' optimistic at best nowadays and would prefer to concentrate on our challenges at hand rather than celebrate something that still hasnt got us a PE or us trading again. Im here to make money, not a cult

Ive also learned to take what the board say with a grain of salt, because no matter how accurate it is it's proven to amount to jack shit in terms of progress..I mean come'on.....imminent, expediated, talks with high ranking government officials including Felix, just need to process the fee's, it goes on and on....and here we are in suspension possibly months away from delisting. No idea why anyone would celebrate too much until we have a ML in hand after now knowing very well the vicousness and dodgeyness of our enemy

Enough said

 

[TLH]

If they have the numbers to vote their 3 in then they have the numbers to vote the rest out so result is 3 them and 2 us (existing)

Getting scary. Further outlines the importance of spreading the word to get every single minor shareholder to vote also.

 

[Ben_Jovi]

Can we use the Dominion voting machine make it a sure thing

 

[Ulli]

In Germany a guy post some interesting questions :

"The question I ask myself is to what extent is the government in the Congo still behind AVZ and how will the court rulings be implemented if we get justice in all instances?
I have the impression that AVZ is slowly fighting a losing battle and is still left empty-handed despite the positive outcome of the legal disputes."

I have done a copy and translated it via google.
At the moment I can understand him a little bit, but I hope that F.T. and the leaders of CAMi are so correct and will accept the court decisions

 

[Carlos Danger]

In Germany a guy post some interesting questions :

"The question I ask myself is to what extent is the government in the Congo still behind AVZ and how will the court rulings be implemented if we get justice in all instances?
I have the impression that AVZ is slowly fighting a losing battle and is still left empty-handed despite the positive outcome of the legal disputes."

I have done a copy and translated it via google.
At the moment I can understand him a little bit, but I hope that F.T. and the leaders of CAMi are so correct and will accept the court decisions

Oberster Gerichtshof der Demokratischen Republik Kongo

Do you need me to translate the rest of the answer into German or are you just trolling?

 

[Carlos Danger]

Same old Aussies always winning

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Smarter & Legal minds here, please think of & action ways to get the 3 MMGA nominations withdrawn.
I've emailed FIRB again, copying Albo & Richard Marles for good measure.

To: ForeignInvestmentCompliance@treasury.gov.au
Cc: A.Albanese.MP@aph.gov.au; richard.marles.mp@aph.gov.au
Subject: RE: Chinese Bribe Aus Businessmen to Steal World's Biggest Lithium Deposit from AVZ Minerals [SEC=OFFICIAL:Sensitive, ACCESS=Legislative Secrecy]
Importance: High

Dear ForeignInvestmentCompliance

CC: The Hon Anthony Albanese MP, The Hon Richard Marles MP, FIRB Executive - protectors of Australia’s National Interest

Pursuant to the summary I provided below, please be aware that Chinese corporates, invested in AVZ, are now directing their shareholder votes for the 3 Australian businessmen, “MMGA” (Fat Tail Holdings). 3 of the top-5 shareholders are Chinese, themselves with approx. 20% of SOI, are acting in concert, along with additional Chinese shareholders, to take control of the AVZ BOD, and sell off by far the world’s biggest hard-rock Lithium deposit (for EV batteries), located at Manono, in the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC / RDC), to Club China, led by Zijin and Simon Cong.
YIBIN TIANYI LITHIUM
HUAYOU
LITHIUM PLUS

AVZ’ AGM and Board re-elections take place this Thu-23/11 2pm WST in Perth. Online voting on resolution ends Tue-21/11 2pm WST.

Please take whatever actions are possible to stop China from stealing the DRC Manono Lithium asset from AVZ.

New references:
... etc.

 

[Cumquat Cap]

Heres to hopefully a prosperous week for genuine $avz holders - I hope the evil gets crushed on Thursday and please vote if you haven't already.

Felix will be right in the thick of election running when the ICSID case rears its ugly head so hopefully that improves our leverage.

I too received a response from FIRB and surely this will pique their interest.

Once again, hoping for a great week for genuine shareholders and fuck MMGA

 

[BRICK]

Hey @JAG youre gonna need a bigger T-shirt for all of the fuck yous

 

[Pokok]

I have been thinking for a few months now about just what is wanted out of AVZ , some here are talking cents the dollar what I dont understand is why companies , private people with so many shares would want the value of their millions of shares to go back to cents when 2 years ago it was worth billions to them , secondly why an AUSTRALIAN writer would write so much against a company that so many of his countrymen are involved in , I would love to know the reason for so much negativity when I only saw positivity , AVZ was a ticket to a good life for many and a retirement for myself and many others , I have lost full faith in human nature as to why they want us to fail in our investment , anyway as far as telling my boss to shove it that will not happen as he is closing the business in 2 weeks and we are all out of work so this vote is now more important than ever , thanks to all who post here the info is so helpful and keeps me living in hope , good luck all , sorry missed Friday joke but will post 2 this Friday . Thanks for reading guys