AVZ Discussion 2022

[Xerof]

The likely reason why the $20m was stolen now, through cooperation of Zijin/Other corrupt DRC and Chinese criminals. $AVZ will win the case below and if Dathomir did not pay damages, $AVZ could have taken the $20m AND the SPA %s.

So Dathomir, Simon Cong, Zijin etc arranged for the money to be stolen before it could be confiscated and awarded in damages to $AVZ

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This supposition seems highly credible

So does putting Alain Monga on the board of Rawbank to arrange the dirty work (if it is him)

 

[Azzler]

That's not Alain Monga, the Rawbank guy.

 

[Xerof]

That's not Alain Monga, the Rawbank guy.

Maybe, the count is 1 yes, 1 no so far, and I have doubts. It makes a fucking good story, but Dave will beat the shit out of me for not stating facts, so I'll just leave it there

 

[wombat74]

Anyone know approx how long until we know the result/penalties in the Dathomir case ?

 

[BEISHA]

Hardly "exciting" if that's the news.
Locke funding only means we aren't dead tomorrow.
We were meant to have Locke funding a year ago.

Exciting developement behind the scenes means a successful investment.
Deboss winked many times and none of those times eventuated.
What do you recon his track record will eventuate this time? Same shit?

Azzler my man, no disrespect, but that post is rather ignorant.

We have discussed adnaseum about the fact our enemies are attempting to bleed us dry financially, so they can complete the steal with no further challenge.

So in the absence of a white knight TO from the US, Locke funding is vital to provide a strong signal to our enemies that we are equipped to fight to the death right up to ICC / ICSID final deliberations.!!

In doing so, it might force that MOU to come to a conclusion alot earlier as our enemies know they have little to no chance winning the legal battle.

So for me Locke funding secured would be a " exciting development" aka Deboss

Yes, Locke funding has taken a extrodinary long time to execute, but given our current parlous financial situation, Locke wants guarantees that they are going to get their 20m back with interest, completely understandable, its complicated.

The irony is if the BOD didnt decide to further define CDL, Locke funding wouldnt be required. Now Zijin are using the extra data AVZ provided to further their own cause......define and construct at warp speed.

Look, nothing is a definite , but i cant imagine DEBOSS stating " exciting developments " if indeed there wasnt any....especially in his new role with the BOD overlooking his shoulder and giving him the go ahead to release.

Think about it....

As always , i remain positive, not negative

imo

 

[Carlos Danger]

Anyone know approx how long until we know the result/penalties in the Dathomir case ?

6 months max from last hearing or filing of last authorised submission but it can be sooner

I'm pretty confident the hearing this week was the start of the countdown for the 2020 SPA but we still don't have a date for the 2019 SPA hearing

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[BEISHA]

6 months max from last hearing or filing of last authorised submission but it can be sooner

I'm pretty confident the hearing this week was the start of the countdown for the 2020 SPA but we still don't have a date for the 2019 SPA hearing

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You are a wealth of information Carlos, I much appreciate your continued contributions navigating us thru the difficult path to eventual legal victory....should it be required.

cheers

 

[wombat74]

6 months max from last hearing or filing of last authorised submission but it can be sooner

I'm pretty confident the hearing this week was the start of the countdown for the 2020 SPA but we still don't have a date for the 2019 SPA hearing

2021 Arbitration Rules - ICC - International Chamber of Commerce

The below ICC Rules of Arbitration entered into force on 1 January 2021. They define and regulate the management of cases received by the International Court of Arbitration® from 1 January 2021 on.  Introductory Provisions Commencing the Arbitration Multiple Parties, Multiple Contracts and...

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Thanks . So considering our enemies know they will lose , this is purely a time wasting exercise .

 

[Carlos Danger]

Thanks . So considering our enemies know they will lose , this is purely a time wasting exercise .

We initiated these proceedings, not Cong

 

[wombat74]

We initiated these proceedings, not Cong

Cheers . Was there an alternative ?

 

[Carlos Danger]

Cheers . Was there an alternative ?

In the absence of a court within the DRC recognising the fact that the impetus was on Cong to initiate arbitration through the ICC (With the assumption that is in the SPA's or it reverts back to Article 11.1 of the Dathcom JVA which is a given considering they are hearing the cases) and not through the DRC back alley court system if he wished to try and terminate the SPA's to renegotiate higher prices for the agreements because he is a dipshit that panicked when lithium prices crashed in 2019/20, no

Without this process Graeme would also need to go to jail as it currently stands within the DRC legal system so there's that to deal with too

 

[Carlos Danger]

In the absence of a court within the DRC recognising the fact that the impetus was on Cong to initiate arbitration through the ICC (With the assumption that is in the SPA's or it reverts back to Article 11.1 of the Dathcom JVA which is a given considering they are hearing the cases) and not through the DRC back alley court system if he wished to try and terminate the SPA's to renegotiate higher prices for the agreements because he is a dipshit that panicked when lithium prices crashed in 2019/20, no

Without this process Graeme would also need to go to jail as it currently stands within the DRC legal system so there's that to deal with too

A legal right to termination is defo not in the SPA's according to AVZ, so Cong's only potential right to termination would have been under Article 11.1 of the Dathcom JVA which says disputes must go through the ICC which is what AVZ have done to put an end to Dathomir's claims

Another key thing to consider is that any negotiated outcome with Dathomir would only occur if Cong admits he can't understand basic contract law (in which case he will still be getting a book from me) and that the SPA's were completed correctly when full payment of the price was made which occurred on August 13th 2021 according to AVZ and August 16th 2021 according to Dathomir (lag obviously due to bank transfer wait time for clearance but since both dates are before the deadline it's a mute point)

Unfortunately for Cong his lawyers were dumb enough to admit that full payment of the price is when ownership is transferred under Article 2.1 of the SPA's (CC sydneyguy) and that the payment did occur which is confirmed by the Dathomir bank statement below lmao

 

[BEISHA]

A legal right to termination is defo not in the SPA's according to AVZ, so Cong's only potential right to termination would have been under Article 11.1 of the Dathcom JVA which says disputes must go through the ICC which is what AVZ have done to put an end to Dathomir's claims

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Another key thing to consider is that any negotiated outcome with Dathomir would only occur if Cong admits he can't understand basic contract law (in which case he will still be getting a book from me) and that the SPA's were completed correctly when full payment of the price was made which occurred on August 13th 2021 according to AVZ and August 16th 2021 according to Dathomir (lag obviously due to bank transfer wait time for clearance but since both dates are before the deadline it's a mute point)

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Unfortunately for Cong his lawyers were dumb enough to admit that full payment of the price is when ownership is transferred under Article 2.1 of the SPA's (CC sydneyguy) and that the payment did occur which is confirmed by the Dathomir bank statement below lmao

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Bottom line, contract was signed by Dathomir with intent to sell, payment was made by AVZ, therefore legal and binding .

You cant go back on that and state .."ooops i changed my mind , here i return your payment "

Insanity.

But, as well know, DRC is corrupt to the core, so anything goes.

 

[Hudnut]

So AVZ proceeds as per original timelines and is now in production. Rio comes along looking for likely M and A targets as per Arcadium. What would RIo be offering per share for AVZ?(Guessing 15 - 20 billion) The greedy, corrupt, dumb fucks in the DRC would have been pocketing 30% in tax! What do they have now as a result of corruption.

The DRC Government would have been pocketing 30% in tax, for the betterment of citizens. The Government officials would not have been receiving this into their personal finances. There lies the problem.

 

[Carlos Danger]

Bottom line, contract was signed by Dathomir with intent to sell, payment was made by AVZ, therefore legal and binding .

You cant go back on that and state .."ooops i changed my mind , here i return your payment "

Insanity.

But, as well know, DRC is corrupt to the core, so anything goes.

He even got notary deeds which confirms his intention to be bound to the agreements under law to witness EGM's he convened by himself approving the sales. It's actually comical how much proof there is. Tick tock.

 

[BEISHA]

He even got notary deeds which confirms his intention to be bound to the agreements under law to witness EGM's he convened by himself approving the sales. It's actually comical how much proof there is. Tick tock.
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[Winenut]

He even got notary deeds which confirms his intention to be bound to the agreements under law to witness EGM's he convened by himself approving the sales. It's actually comical how much proof there is. Tick tock.
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You're on fucking @Carlos Danger !!!!

Love it!

 

[Winenut]

and humbly.....thank you

 

[Randenj]

and humbly.....thank you

Agreed. My thanks to Carlos as well. It has been good to be reminded of the strong legal ground (despite the quicksand of in-country issues )

 

[Frank]

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