AVZ Discussion 2022
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Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
They forgot to mention $12....
Winenut
GO AVZ!!!!
Don't think the Nige can "officially" take any deal offered just at the moment.....hands are tied
Even if one fiddy was on the table from Kobold we're still beholden to the peace deal being finalised and DRC sorting out the ML side of things plus acceptable terms to any arrangement being thrashed out before anything "potentially offered" can be offcially accepted and announced IMO
Likely true.
Well $12 is a possibility so $6 is a lay-down misère!!
The fact that DLA Piper is assisting AVZ is comforting. I asked Copilot the following question.
"How good is DLA Piper at negotiating a favourable settlement in cases similar to the AVZ scenario, give examples."
The answer is good ...
"DLA Piper is widely regarded as one of the top global law firms for handling complex cross-border disputes, including investment treaty arbitration and mining sector negotiations—both highly relevant to the AVZ scenario.
While specific case outcomes are often confidential, here’s what we can draw from public records and their track record:
Strengths Relevant to AVZ’s Case
Notable Examples
Implications for AVZ
Given DLA Piper’s deep bench of arbitration specialists, sector-specific knowledge, and experience navigating political risk, they are well-positioned to negotiate a favorable outcome for AVZ—whether through a KoBold-facilitated settlement or a full ICSID ruling.
Would you like a breakdown of how DLA Piper might structure a hybrid settlement in this context?"
"How good is DLA Piper at negotiating a favourable settlement in cases similar to the AVZ scenario, give examples."
The answer is good ...
"DLA Piper is widely regarded as one of the top global law firms for handling complex cross-border disputes, including investment treaty arbitration and mining sector negotiations—both highly relevant to the AVZ scenario.
While specific case outcomes are often confidential, here’s what we can draw from public records and their track record:
Strengths Relevant to AVZ’s Case- Investor-State Dispute Settlement (ISDS): DLA Piper has represented both investors and states in ICSID and UNCITRAL arbitrations. Their experience includes disputes over expropriation, mining licenses, and regulatory interference—core issues in AVZ’s claim against the DRC.
- Mining & Energy Sector Expertise: The firm has advised on resource nationalization disputes, joint venture breakdowns, and permit revocations, often in Africa and Latin America.
- Settlement Strategy: DLA Piper emphasizes early dispute resolution where possible, using mediation, structured negotiations, and hybrid settlement frameworks—similar to the KoBold-AVZ framework.
Notable Examples- Vedanta Resources v. Zambia: DLA Piper advised Vedanta in a dispute over the seizure of a copper mine. The case involved ICSID arbitration and complex negotiations with the Zambian government.
- Tethyan Copper Company v. Pakistan: While not directly involved, DLA Piper has cited this case in its publications as a benchmark for large-scale mining arbitration, showcasing their familiarity with billion-dollar claims.
- Confidential African Mining Dispute: In a matter involving a revoked mining license in West Africa, DLA Piper reportedly helped secure a favorable settlement through a combination of arbitration and diplomatic engagement.
Implications for AVZGiven DLA Piper’s deep bench of arbitration specialists, sector-specific knowledge, and experience navigating political risk, they are well-positioned to negotiate a favorable outcome for AVZ—whether through a KoBold-facilitated settlement or a full ICSID ruling.
Would you like a breakdown of how DLA Piper might structure a hybrid settlement in this context?"
cruiser51
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cruiser51
Top 20
I hate to guess a price, so pointless.
We just have to wait and see how the ICSID verdict will be worded.
If Felix is trying to pull a shonky with Donald, he has shit for brains.
For Felix to put CKK on his advisory team might prove to be an extremely bloody stupid move, to be so fucking obvious with his intentions.
He highly likely thinks he is operating on the DRC scene only and is dealing with dickheads.
He might have forgotten that only 6 months ago he went on his knees to Trump, begging to save his sorry ass. Now after the negotiations he seems to be breathing easier and got a little of his dazzling behaviour back.
I love to see him squealing when Donald puts his testicles in a nutcracker and applies a little pressure.
Some people are suffering from convenient short memory syndrome and can do with a short sharp rerun through memory lane.
Can you imagine being a 10 year old child the night before Christmas every night for the last 3 years ? Only to wake up every morning to find Santa didn't leave you any presents . Not only that . Santa took a dump on the living room rug and stole your bicycle . Welcome to the world of an AVZ share holder with millions of shares .
LEFOOL
Regular
Okay so i thought it would be easy for me to translate but fuck me... that guy is so angry i find it hard to understand wtf he's on about.. also he switches to some local dialect at some point and throws in random French words... anyway that's all i can get..
'' He welcomed them, and was very nice to them, and they were very much impressed by President Felix's welcome. President Felix gave them his blessing and said 'everything will be fine'. "
then he mentions AVZ and switches to his angry dialect cant help much more...
Also the bit where he mentions Kobold he's angry that Kobold were the ones making announcement about Manono and not the DRC governement..
Wait i've watched a bit more and he switches back to French. His problem is that according to him when the yanks (kobold/US representatives?) visited DRC they spoke to Felix and were very happy with the possible deal, but then when DRC sent a delegation to Washington that delegation said differents things that those that were talked about in DRC..
then he says that Felix's boys messed up big time as he says there's microphones everywhere and he's heard conversation where some Felix's boys were rude to some lady from AVZ (???) and made her cry she wanted to resign.. (????)
He teh says that he will personally speak to Felix about this matter.......
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Mute22
Regular
Yeah looking into it, he seems to just be a content farmer (reading random articles / outrage baiting) with Alex Jones style rants.
Not sure it's worth the trouble, although he seems to a decent audience on FB streams in the DRC.
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WTF, now I want to know the whole translation!
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though your repeated slavering over Trump is pretty cringeworthy, I did offer to give him a happy ending should our issues be resolved so perhaps I'm not one to talk
LOCKY82
Regular
Retrobyte
Hates a beer
And his reindeer gang bang your catNo presents! And Santa drinking your beer and having his way with your missus!
Haha ...is it Friday already ?
Dave Evans
Regular
Mute, open it in YouTube change the translation to English and you can read the English subtitles as he talks. It’s not hard, I just got too bored to be bothered listening to his rambling. It was just like the ramblings Mills Tshibangu used to do when he was bullshitting about being arrested and saying he knew where the the $20million from the escrow account held in Lukusa’s name went. They are so backward and corrupt that they just lie and think that shouting will make people believe their bullshit
This week, Friday isn't until Saturday...
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