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Dhm

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Hi Victor,

Synsense and Prophesee go back to October 2021:

https://www.prophesee.ai/2021/10/15/synsense-prophesee-neuromorphic-processing-and-sensing/

Oct 15, 2021 – SynSense and Prophesee, two leading neuromorphic technology companies, today announced a partnership that will see the two companies leverage their respective expertise in sensing and processing to develop ultra-low-power solutions for implementing intelligence on the edge for event-based vision applications.
...
“As IoT applications in smart homes, offices, industries and cities proliferate, there is an increasing need for more intelligence on the edge. Our experience in implementing neuromorphic enabled vision sensing with smart pixel methods complements SynSense’s expertise in neuromorphic processing to make implementing high performance vision more practical. Together we can drive the development of highly efficient, lower cost products that provide more visibility, safety and productivity in a wide range of use cases.” said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.

Reading between the lines -
making it more practical could mean "there's room for improvement", and
driving development could mean "we are not there yet".

So certainly Luca's enthusiasm for Akida is more recent, but we don't know what contractual obligations there are between Prophesee and Synsense.

What we do know is that Akida is the only product capable of fully utilizing Prophesee's DVS capability.

Afterthought: I don't recall seeing any mention of Synsense in connexion with the Prophesee/Sony camera de-blurring.

I'm not suggesting that that means Akida is used, because Sony/Prophesee development predates Prophesee/Akida friendship.

Maybe it means that the camera de-blur does not require a NN, or that Sony has alternative processing?

But, if Sony has alternative processing, Akida would beat it hands down.

Or maybe I just missed the Synsense bit of Sony/Prophesee.
I have asked Prophesee via the contact us facility on their website whether they are using us or Synsense tech. I doubt I will get an answer, but if you don’t ask…..
 
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VictorG

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Hi Victor,

Synsense and Prophesee go back to October 2021:

https://www.prophesee.ai/2021/10/15/synsense-prophesee-neuromorphic-processing-and-sensing/

Oct 15, 2021 – SynSense and Prophesee, two leading neuromorphic technology companies, today announced a partnership that will see the two companies leverage their respective expertise in sensing and processing to develop ultra-low-power solutions for implementing intelligence on the edge for event-based vision applications.
...
“As IoT applications in smart homes, offices, industries and cities proliferate, there is an increasing need for more intelligence on the edge. Our experience in implementing neuromorphic enabled vision sensing with smart pixel methods complements SynSense’s expertise in neuromorphic processing to make implementing high performance vision more practical. Together we can drive the development of highly efficient, lower cost products that provide more visibility, safety and productivity in a wide range of use cases.” said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.

Reading between the lines -
making it more practical could mean "there's room for improvement", and
driving development could mean "we are not there yet".

So certainly Luca's enthusiasm for Akida is more recent, but we don't know what contractual obligations there are between Prophesee and Synsense.

What we do know is that Akida is the only product capable of fully utilizing Prophesee's DVS capability.

Afterthought: I don't recall seeing any mention of Synsense in connexion with the Prophesee/Sony camera de-blurring.

I'm not suggesting that that means Akida is used, because Sony/Prophesee development predates Prophesee/Akida friendship.

Maybe it means that the camera de-blur does not require a NN, or that Sony has alternative processing?

But, if Sony has alternative processing, Akida would beat it hands down.

Or maybe I just missed the Synsense bit of Sony/Prophesee.
I checked Prophesee's website and found the following,

Reading between the lines, there is no mention of a ready and available solution for OEM's with the Synsense and Prophesee partnership while there is with the partnership between Brainchip and Prophesee.

The Prophesee and Synsense partnership reads like a collaboration for R&D.

I hope I'm right 😇🙏

BrainChip Partners with Prophesee Optimizing Computer Vision AI Performance and Efficiency

Jun 20, 2022

BrainChip and Prophesee announced a technology partnership that delivers next-generation platforms for OEMs looking to integrate event-based vision systems with high levels of AI performance coupled with ultra-low power technologies.

“We’ve successfully ported the data from Prophesee’s neuromorphic-based camera sensor to process inference on Akida with impressive performance,” said Anil Mankar, Co-Founder and CDO of BrainChip. “This combination of intelligent vision sensors with Akida’s ability to process data with unparalleled efficiency, precision and economy of energy at the point of acquisition truly advances state-of-the-art AI enablement and offers manufacturers a ready-to-implement solution.”

“By combining our Metavision solution with Akida-based IP, we are better able to deliver a complete high-performance and ultra-low power solution to OEMs looking to leverage edge-based visual technologies as part of their product offerings, said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.”

SynSense and Prophesee partner to combine neuromorphic engineering expertise for developing one-chip event-based smart sensing solution

Oct 15, 2021

SynSense and Prophesee partner to combine neuromorphic engineering expertise for developing one-chip event-based smart sensing solution for ultra-low power edge-AI

“We couldn’t be more excited to enter into a strategic partnership with Prophesee,” said Ning Qiao, CEO of SynSense. “Both companies are world leaders in their respective fields. The deep cooperation between us will promote the development of vision-based neuromorphic intelligence and will accelerate the commercialization of neuromorphic technology.”

“As IoT applications in smart homes, offices, industries and cities proliferate, there is an increasing need for more intelligence on the edge. Our experience in implementing neuromorphic enabled vision sensing with smart pixel methods complements SynSense’s expertise in neuromorphic processing to make implementing high performance vision more practical. Together we can drive the development of highly efficient, lower cost products that provide more visibility, safety and productivity in a wide range of use cases.” said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.
 
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Beebo

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I checked Prophesee's website and found the following,

Reading between the lines, there is no mention of a ready and available solution for OEM's with the Synsense and Prophesee partnership while there is with the partnership between Brainchip and Prophesee.

The Prophesee and Synsense partnership reads like a collaboration for R&D.

I hope I'm right 😇🙏

BrainChip Partners with Prophesee Optimizing Computer Vision AI Performance and Efficiency

Jun 20, 2022

BrainChip and Prophesee announced a technology partnership that delivers next-generation platforms for OEMs looking to integrate event-based vision systems with high levels of AI performance coupled with ultra-low power technologies.

“We’ve successfully ported the data from Prophesee’s neuromorphic-based camera sensor to process inference on Akida with impressive performance,” said Anil Mankar, Co-Founder and CDO of BrainChip. “This combination of intelligent vision sensors with Akida’s ability to process data with unparalleled efficiency, precision and economy of energy at the point of acquisition truly advances state-of-the-art AI enablement and offers manufacturers a ready-to-implement solution.”

“By combining our Metavision solution with Akida-based IP, we are better able to deliver a complete high-performance and ultra-low power solution to OEMs looking to leverage edge-based visual technologies as part of their product offerings, said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.”

SynSense and Prophesee partner to combine neuromorphic engineering expertise for developing one-chip event-based smart sensing solution

Oct 15, 2021

SynSense and Prophesee partner to combine neuromorphic engineering expertise for developing one-chip event-based smart sensing solution for ultra-low power edge-AI

“We couldn’t be more excited to enter into a strategic partnership with Prophesee,” said Ning Qiao, CEO of SynSense. “Both companies are world leaders in their respective fields. The deep cooperation between us will promote the development of vision-based neuromorphic intelligence and will accelerate the commercialization of neuromorphic technology.”

“As IoT applications in smart homes, offices, industries and cities proliferate, there is an increasing need for more intelligence on the edge. Our experience in implementing neuromorphic enabled vision sensing with smart pixel methods complements SynSense’s expertise in neuromorphic processing to make implementing high performance vision more practical. Together we can drive the development of highly efficient, lower cost products that provide more visibility, safety and productivity in a wide range of use cases.” said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.
Good comparison / agreed! That’s why we are “ de facto” worthy.
 
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Pretty sure this has been discussed before but just came across this article - NASA SiFive connection


"NASA JPL set the goals for the HPSC based on its mission requirements to put autonomy into future spacecraft. Simply put, the tasks associated with autonomy are sensing, perceiving, deciding, and actuating. Sensing involves remote imaging using multi-spectral sensors and image processing"


Larry
 
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Diogenese

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Hi Victor,

Synsense and Prophesee go back to October 2021:

https://www.prophesee.ai/2021/10/15/synsense-prophesee-neuromorphic-processing-and-sensing/

Oct 15, 2021 – SynSense and Prophesee, two leading neuromorphic technology companies, today announced a partnership that will see the two companies leverage their respective expertise in sensing and processing to develop ultra-low-power solutions for implementing intelligence on the edge for event-based vision applications.
...
“As IoT applications in smart homes, offices, industries and cities proliferate, there is an increasing need for more intelligence on the edge. Our experience in implementing neuromorphic enabled vision sensing with smart pixel methods complements SynSense’s expertise in neuromorphic processing to make implementing high performance vision more practical. Together we can drive the development of highly efficient, lower cost products that provide more visibility, safety and productivity in a wide range of use cases.” said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.

Reading between the lines -
making it more practical could mean "there's room for improvement", and
driving development could mean "we are not there yet".

So certainly Luca's enthusiasm for Akida is more recent, but we don't know what contractual obligations there are between Prophesee and Synsense.

What we do know is that Akida is the only product capable of fully utilizing Prophesee's DVS capability.

Afterthought: I don't recall seeing any mention of Synsense in connexion with the Prophesee/Sony camera de-blurring.

I'm not suggesting that that means Akida is used, because Sony/Prophesee development predates Prophesee/Akida friendship.

Maybe it means that the camera de-blur does not require a NN, or that Sony has alternative processing?

But, if Sony has alternative processing, Akida would beat it hands down.

Or maybe I just missed the Synsense bit of Sony/Prophesee.

Synsense started in Switzerland but moved to China.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/oth...sedgntp&cvid=f8c537b8a0e645aa8ead5bfb4cdf72e5
...
In November, the (UK) Government announced restrictions on the use of Chinese-made security cameras in 'sensitive' areas amid fears about snooping via devices connected to Whitehall networks.

I wonder if that would include Synsense?
 
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Diogenese

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I checked Prophesee's website and found the following,

Reading between the lines, there is no mention of a ready and available solution for OEM's with the Synsense and Prophesee partnership while there is with the partnership between Brainchip and Prophesee.

The Prophesee and Synsense partnership reads like a collaboration for R&D.

I hope I'm right 😇🙏

BrainChip Partners with Prophesee Optimizing Computer Vision AI Performance and Efficiency

Jun 20, 2022

BrainChip and Prophesee announced a technology partnership that delivers next-generation platforms for OEMs looking to integrate event-based vision systems with high levels of AI performance coupled with ultra-low power technologies.

“We’ve successfully ported the data from Prophesee’s neuromorphic-based camera sensor to process inference on Akida with impressive performance,” said Anil Mankar, Co-Founder and CDO of BrainChip. “This combination of intelligent vision sensors with Akida’s ability to process data with unparalleled efficiency, precision and economy of energy at the point of acquisition truly advances state-of-the-art AI enablement and offers manufacturers a ready-to-implement solution.”

“By combining our Metavision solution with Akida-based IP, we are better able to deliver a complete high-performance and ultra-low power solution to OEMs looking to leverage edge-based visual technologies as part of their product offerings, said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.”

SynSense and Prophesee partner to combine neuromorphic engineering expertise for developing one-chip event-based smart sensing solution

Oct 15, 2021

SynSense and Prophesee partner to combine neuromorphic engineering expertise for developing one-chip event-based smart sensing solution for ultra-low power edge-AI

“We couldn’t be more excited to enter into a strategic partnership with Prophesee,” said Ning Qiao, CEO of SynSense. “Both companies are world leaders in their respective fields. The deep cooperation between us will promote the development of vision-based neuromorphic intelligence and will accelerate the commercialization of neuromorphic technology.”

“As IoT applications in smart homes, offices, industries and cities proliferate, there is an increasing need for more intelligence on the edge. Our experience in implementing neuromorphic enabled vision sensing with smart pixel methods complements SynSense’s expertise in neuromorphic processing to make implementing high performance vision more practical. Together we can drive the development of highly efficient, lower cost products that provide more visibility, safety and productivity in a wide range of use cases.” said Luca Verre, CEO and co-founder of Prophesee.
Hi Victor,

"Optimizing Computer Vision AI Performance" tallys with my thoughts on

Reading between the lines -
making it more practical could mean "there's room for improvement", and
driving development could mean "we are not there ye
t".
 
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Diogenese

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Pretty sure this has been discussed before but just came across this article - NASA SiFive connection


"NASA JPL set the goals for the HPSC based on its mission requirements to put autonomy into future spacecraft. Simply put, the tasks associated with autonomy are sensing, perceiving, deciding, and actuating. Sensing involves remote imaging using multi-spectral sensors and image processing"


Larry
Hi Larry,

The closing paragraph is ominous for ARM:

One final note: During my research for this article, I discovered that NASA’s HPSC has not always been based on the RISC-V architecture. A presentation made at the Radiation Hardened Electronics Technology (RHET) Conference in 2018 by Wesley Powell, Assistant Chief for Technology at NASA Goddard Space Flight Center’s Electrical Engineering Division, includes a block diagram of the HPSC, which shows an earlier conceptual design based on eight Arm Cortex-A53 microprocessor cores with NEON SIMD vector engines and floating-point units. Powell continues to be the Principal Technologist on the HPSC program. At some point in the HPSC’s evolution over the past four years, at least by late 2020 when NASA published a Small Business Innovation Research (SBIR) project Phase I solicitation for the HPSC, the Arm processor cores had been replaced by a requirement for RISC-V processor cores. That change was formally cast in stone last September with the announcement of the project awards to Microchip and SiFive. A sign of the times, perhaps?

Makes our 5 bob each way look like a sound bet.
 
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TopCat

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Synsense started in Switzerland but moved to China.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/money/oth...sedgntp&cvid=f8c537b8a0e645aa8ead5bfb4cdf72e5
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In November, the (UK) Government announced restrictions on the use of Chinese-made security cameras in 'sensitive' areas amid fears about snooping via devices connected to Whitehall networks.

I wonder if that would include Synsense?
Talking of Synsense, I’m still thinking something has happened with them and iniVation. It’s common knowledge they both worked together to produce “Speck” . They advertise it on all their different pages. Yet at CES 2023, iniVation release their new shiniest and brightest neuromorphic image processor , Aeveon , and I am yet to find any article or anything which links or mentions any Synsense involvement.
 
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Diogenese

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So I got thinking about the potential markets of our partners.

NB: The following is just my daydreaming, and not based on sufficient solid information to serve as investment advice.

This is a list of what I think are some of our larger potential partnership markets, ranked in my guess at the relative potential markets.

Happy to have this dissected and forensically examined [substance rather than semantics].

Akida Market Partners

  • MorseMicro
  • Prophesee
  • SiFive
  • Valeo
  • Socionext
  • Edge impulse
  • nViso


MorseMicro

The potential market for MorseMicro’s HaLow WiFi gateway is massive.

MorseMicro has the HaLow ultra-low power, ultra-long range, multitude WiFi for IoT.

The creators of HaLow include the inventors of the original WiFi.

HaLow could potentially become the standard for multi-device WiFi gateways.

If HaLow becomes the standard, not only could Akida be used in the gateway, but it may also be required in the connected devices.

The MorseMicro patent for their gateway circuit includes a MAC (multiply accumulate) processor.

Akida can perform MAC operations far more efficiently than a MAC ALU (arithmetic logic unit).

It is also possible that Akida could be used in the communication circuits of IoT devices connected to the HaLow gateway.

MorseMicro is a MegaChips partner, as is BrainChip.

@thelittleshort listed a number of MorseMicro engineers who are following BrainChip. This is significant as MorseMicro does not profess to be an AI company.


Prophesee

Prophesee event-based camera (DVS) and Akida are a hand-and-glove fit.

Akida’s speed and power efficiency surpass alternative technologies previously used with Prophesee.

The potential market for Prophesee is pretty well unlimited, from IoT security through ADAS, to NASA and DoD.

In conjunction with Sony, they have developed a camera blur elimination capability. I don’t know if Akida can be used advantageously with this, but if so, this market alone is huge.


SiFive

SiFive designs processors using RISC-V architecture (RISC = Reduced Instruction Set Computer).

RISC-V is a recently developed computing language and the creators have set up SiFive.

RISC-V is a major competitor to ARM, who use RISC-IV.

The SiFive market is in computers.


Valeo

Valeo makes sensors for ADAS.

Valeo are the market leaders in LiDaR.

Akida has a sweet spot for LiDaR.

The EV revolution will see massive demand for LiDaR in the next few years.


Socionext

Socionext is a major fabless chip designer who produced the production layout for Akida 1000.

They made a co-presentation with BrainChip and nViso at CES2023.


nViso

nViso has human emotion recognition software which has been adapted to utilize the image classification capabilities of Akida at greater than 1000 fps.

This may be useful in implementing the recently-mandated DMS (2022) (Driver Monitoring System) in Europe.


Edge Impulse

Edge Impulse provides ML algorithms for edge devices.

Akida is capable of greatly increasing the processing capability and power efficiency of these algorithms.
Following on from the above partner list, there are others who need us:

Intel
ARM

Intel

Intel is running around in ever decreasing circles, losing market share [ https://www.afr.com/technology/inte...f-its-grimmest-forecasts-ever-20230129-p5cg9k ]

Their Loihi2 is still on training wheels, so they do not have a commercial AI offering comparable with Akida.

ARM

The new kid on the block, SiFive, has already made a lot of friends with its RISC-V tech posing serious competition for ARM's RISC-IV tech.

We are now part of the ecosystem of each of these companies, being offered as an option to their customers. Let's hope that these giants can see the value of Akida in improving the performance of their own processors in regaining much-needed competitiveness.
 
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Bravo

If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
Just to make it clear in regards to the above, I believe there's a very decent chance that we're in NASA’s High Performance Spaceflight Computing (HPSC), in other words in PolarFire 2 SoC via SiFive's X280 processor cores because the timing is spot on within NASA's target time IMO. Microchip previewed its PolarFire 2 mid-range SoC FPGA family at the RISC-V Summit in December 2022.


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Thanks so much for posting this NASA article @TheDrooben! It helps strengthen my suspicion that we're involved in NASA’s High Performance Spaceflight Computing (HPSC) as per the information posted above (i.e SiFive's Intelligence X280 + Akida hardened AI IP).

Remember Peter van der Made telling us that NASA was very excited about BrainChip. Is it any wonder since now we find out from this article that the HPSC won't just be utilized strictly for missions in space, but it will also be utilized in a variety of applications on Earth "such as defense, commercial aviation, industrial robotics, and medical equipment – as well as being a good candidate for use in government and commercial spacecraft". It also states "The project will result in the development of the HPSC chip, boards, a software stack, and reference designs with initial availability in 2024 and space-qualified hardware available in 2025".

You little ripper!


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Long Termers be like!

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To compensate for my ''whinging'' over the last couple of days :ROFLMAO: :cry: :ROFLMAO: :rolleyes: :poop: 😂 😇 😇 😇 ;

Updated version of the iceberg. Credit to @uiux and @Neuromorphia

Full disclosure: Indirect dots are just that - though some of the companies like Samsung has been already been mentioned by Brainchip a few years ago, I have kept a few down there until we get confirmation.

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All hail the iceberg! All hail the iceberg!

This would be the call from those who've missed the bus and need a lift....
 
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All hail the iceberg! All hail the iceberg!

This would be the call from those who've missed the bus and need a lift....

Not just a bus, but Level 5 Autonomous.

bus GIF
 
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Not sure if seen.. Recap for Phrophese on LinkedIn. Mentions Brainchip. Sorry can't do link atm.
 
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Newk R

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I'm definitely not selling any of my shares that's for sure. BRN will be my retirement nest egg. However I'm already past retirement age and if the SP is at these levels at the next AGM I'll be calling for blood. I'm sick of being treated like a mushroom.
 
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I appreciate we’re getting tired of dots with no announcements/income but I’ll share this for those that are interested.

I’ve been keeping an eye on DRAGANFLY after RT liked it several times on LinkedIn.

Nice announcement from them about their drones being made in India under the ”Made in India“ program. Good increasing market!

As a result of the war in Ukraine I expect every country to ensure they have their own supply chain for drones for both commercial and warlike situations.

Remote Sensing Instruments are the company who have won the contract. I’m not sure of their manufacturing capabilities as the agreement talks about development of manufacturing, marketing and sales; or if they are going to outsource the actual production from a large certified company such as VVDN.

RSI looks like a solid company 34 yrs old and use amongst other things lidar and satellites for mapping purposes.

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Drones have been spoken of numerous times so one to keep an eye on!

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:)
 
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The lack of price sensitve anns to ASX I understand.NDAs yada yada yada.

I was however ,expecting more from our management."The share price will do what the share price will do" from 6mths ago is no longer suffice to adequetly address the current situation-sORry Sean but in this regard-DO BETTER!

Ive been asking myself these questions again:
Is this a Swill Gates v Telsa situation?
Does Mgt know who is shorting?
If Mgt know what are they doing about it?
Why not Call it out?
Or will the ostrich method continue to be exercised,just bury your head in the sand and pretend its not happening.

IMO it would be helpful if the company was to put out a press release publicy calling out the apparent sp manipulation,but thats just me.
Name and shame these entities who are unsupportive of beneficial A.I and the benefits to all,especially if Aus entities.
Maybe Im way off base and it would do more harm than good???
Anyhow rant over
AKIDA BALLISTA
 
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The lack of price sensitve anns to ASX I understand.NDAs yada yada yada.

I was however ,expecting more from our CEO. "The share price will do what the share price will do" from 6mths ago is no longer suffice to adequetly address the current situation-sORry Sean but in this regard-DO BETTER!

Ive been asking myself these questions again:
Is this a Swill Gates v Telsa situation?
Does Mgt know who is shorting?
If Mgt know what are they doing about it?
Why not Call it out?
Or will the ostrich method continue to be exercised,just bury your head in the sand and pretend its not happening.

IMO it would be helpful if the company was to put out a press release publicy calling out the apparent sp manipulation,but thats just me.
Name and shame these entities who are unsupportive of beneficial A.I and the benefits to all,especially if Aus entities.
Maybe Im way off base and it would do more harm than good???
Anyhow rant over
AKIDA BALLISTA

There's one thing that can stop the shorting.

Revenue.

I am hoping that Sean and the team can deliver over the next 2 quarters and provide shareholders with a bunch of new sales/license fees.

That will burn the shorters.
 
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Makes a mockery of RT’s somber warning against shorting BRN…
 
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