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Colorado23

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G'day legends.
Listened to an interesting podcast with a NZ lad who is a co founder of Neuro. I seem to remember one or many of you discussing Neuro but have reached out to Mr Ferguson to gauge his response in relation to Brainchip. He also coincidentally completed a Phd at CMU.
 
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Cyw

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Who benefits by having the share price tightly controlled at this level or even sub 60c?

Tech x
I don't think it is controlled as such. Don't forget we have at least 30M shares to be dumped into the market. Buyers won't rush in to buy.
 
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I don't think it is controlled as such. Don't forget we have at least 30M shares to be dumped into the market. Buyers won't rush in to buy.
Surely a fair bit of today’s trading was fuelled by this? Relentless selling all afternoon!
 
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Who benefits by having the share price tightly controlled at this level or even sub 60c?

Tech x
Someone is loaning out shares to the shorters.

They make money for loaning out their shares, while at the same time accumulating more shares while the share price gets pushed down to the 60’s.

It looks like the loaners don’t won’t the price below a price range that kicks BRN out of the ASX 200.

Something tells me it might be someone that voted against Peter at the last AGM.

IMO

DYOR.
 
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Great article on us about our Benchmarking.


BrainChip says new standards needed for edge AI benchmarking​


Jan 23, 2023 | Abhishek Jadhav

CATEGORIES Edge Applications | Edge Computing News | Industry Standards

BrainChip says new standards needed for edge AI benchmarking


BrainChip, a provider of neuromorphic processors for edge AI on-chip processing, has published a white paper that examines the limitations of conventional AI performance benchmarks. The white paper also suggests additional metrics to consider when evaluating AI applications’ overall performance and efficiency in multi-modal edge environments.

The white paper, “Benchmarking AI inference at the edge: Measuring performance and efficiency for real-world deployments”, examines how neuromorphic technology can help reduce latency and power consumption while amplifying throughput. According to research cited by BrainChip, the benchmarking used to measure AI performance in today’s industry tends to focus heavily on TOPS metrics, which do not accurately depict real-world applications.

“While there’s been a good start, current methods of benchmarking for edge AI don’t accurately account for the factors that affect devices in industries such as automotive, smart homes and Industry 4.0,” said Anil Mankar, the chief development officer of BrainChip.

Recommended reading: Edge Impulse, BrainChip partner to accelerate edge AI development

Limitations of traditional edge AI benchmarking techniques​

MLPerf is recognized as the benchmark system for measuring the performance and capabilities of AI workloads and inferences. While other organizations seek to add new standards for AI evaluations, they still use TOPS metrics. Unfortunately, these metrics fail to prove proper power consumption and performance in a real-world setting.

BrainChip proposes that future benchmarking of AI edge performance should include application-based parameters. Additionally, it should emulate sensor inputs to provide a more realistic and complete view of performance and power efficiency.

“We believe that as a community, we should evolve benchmarks to continuously incorporate factors such as on-chip, in-memory computation, and model sizes to complement the latency and power metrics that are measured today,” Mankar added.

Recommended reading: BrainChip, Prophesee to deliver “neuromorphic” event-based vision systems for OEMs

Benchmarks in action: Measuring throughput and power consumption​

BrainChip promotes a shift towards using application-specific parameters to measure AI inference capabilities. The new standard should use open-loop and closed-loop datasets to measure raw performance in real-world applications, such as throughput and power consumption.

BrainChip believes businesses can leverage this data to optimize AI algorithms with performance and efficiency for various industries, including automotive, smart homes and Industry 4.0.

Evaluating AI performance for automotive applications can be difficult due to the complexity of dynamic situations. One can create more responsive in-cabin systems by incorporating keyword spotting and image detection into benchmarking measures. On the other hand, when evaluating AI in smart home devices, one should prioritize measuring performance and accuracy for keyword spotting, object detection and visual wake words.

“Targeted Industry 4.0 inference benchmarks focused on balancing efficiency and power will enable system designers to architect a new generation of energy-efficient robots that optimally process data-heavy input from multiple sensors,” BrainChip explained.

BrainChip emphasizes the need for more effort to incorporate additional parameters in a comprehensive benchmarking system. The company suggests creating new benchmarks for AI interference performance that measure efficiency by evaluating factors such as latency, power and in-memory and (on-chip) computation.
Hi TechGirl,

I expect that we will see a few more of these articles in the next week. Love all the dot joining here but we seem to have lost sight of the fact that we are in the midst of a capital raise. If you are selling your car you need to advertise. Giving it a wash and pumping up the tyres is a good plan too.
 
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BaconLover

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Who benefits by having the share price tightly controlled at this level or even sub 60c?

Tech x

I'm happy as long as LDA is happy ☺
 
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hotty4040

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I don't think it is controlled as such. Don't forget we have at least 30M shares to be dumped into the market. Buyers won't rush in to buy.

By whom Cyw, care to elaborate ?? unless you mean," our guarantors "

Akida Ballista >>>>> " Breaking News Imminent " I expect, quite soon <<<<<

hotty...
 
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Esq.111

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Here's a question to no one in particular.

Who benefits by having the share price tightly controlled at this level or even sub 60c?

Tech x
Afternoon TECH,

Good question & the only cenario I can think of is a large entity in our field of business screwing the price down.

But one of many ways...

Large entity goes out & on market Buys say the equivalent of say 100,000,000 shares for a combined average value of say $140,000,000.00.

Next step thay then proceed to use these shares, lend them out to a separate entity , although still the same parent entity, all linked through various offshore accounts , brokers etc to short the crap out of our share price.

In doing so thay...

1, pick up to $140,000,000.00 tax loss for the books.

2, the Short side of the equation Buys back and makes a profit at of $X...

3, Most importantly by playing with a relative pittance , $140,000,000.00, by screwing the price down said company then mysteriously appears & offers a buyout price of say $2.50 per share, White Knite, which after the enduring torment thay have inflicted on the average retail shareholder for over a year, dare say alot would accept.

4, Large acquiring company has literally saved itself billions of $ off the purchase price simply by playing games with only $140,000,000.00

* As I have said earlier, I personally believe the fair value of Brainchip shares pressently should be well north of $4.50 Au , even pricing in world events.

The above is purely what I think is playing out before our eyes.

Regards,
Esq.
 
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mrgds

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Here's a question to no one in particular.

Who benefits by having the share price tightly controlled at this level or even sub 60c?

Tech x
Sure as hell ain"t the retail shareholders.

Id enjoy "Blind Freddies" reply to your question.

AKIDA BALLISTA
 
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alwaysgreen

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Afternoon TECH,

Good question & the only cenario I can think of is a large entity in our field of business screwing the price down.

But one of many ways...

Large entity goes out & on market Buys say the equivalent of say 100,000,000 shares for a combined average value of say $140,000,000.00.

Next step thay then proceed to use these shares, lend them out to a separate entity , although still the same parent entity, all linked through various offshore accounts , brokers etc to short the crap out of our share price.

In doing so thay...

1, pick up to $140,000,000.00 tax loss for the books.

2, the Short side of the equation Buys back and makes a profit at of $X...

3, Most importantly by playing with a relative pittance , $140,000,000.00, by screwing the price down said company then mysteriously appears & offers a buyout price of say $2.50 per share, White Knite, which after the enduring torment thay have inflicted on the average retail shareholder for over a year, dare say alot would accept.

4, Large acquiring company has literally saved itself billions of $ off the purchase price simply by playing games with only $140,000,000.00

* As I have said earlier, I personally believe the fair value of Brainchip shares pressently should be well north of $4.50 Au , even pricing in world events.

The above is purely what I think is playing out before our eyes.

Regards,
Esq.
$4.50? We are still essentially pre revenue.

I'll take it but that would value us at over $7 billion!
 
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Esq.111

Fascinatingly Intuitive.
$4.50? We are still essentially pre revenue.

I'll take it but that would value us at over $7 billion!
Afternoon Alwaysgreen,

YEP.

Forgetting my loose math arriving at $4.50 , our CEO Sean , yet really Hehir from stated in an early interview that we should be valued at multiples of were we were at the time, or words to such effect.

From my memory, the share price was north of $1.00 at the time & as we all know , the plethora of engagements since.

Regards,
Esq.
 
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Afternoon TECH,

Good question & the only cenario I can think of is a large entity in our field of business screwing the price down.

But one of many ways...

Large entity goes out & on market Buys say the equivalent of say 100,000,000 shares for a combined average value of say $140,000,000.00.

Next step thay then proceed to use these shares, lend them out to a separate entity , although still the same parent entity, all linked through various offshore accounts , brokers etc to short the crap out of our share price.

In doing so thay...

1, pick up to $140,000,000.00 tax loss for the books.

2, the Short side of the equation Buys back and makes a profit at of $X...

3, Most importantly by playing with a relative pittance , $140,000,000.00, by screwing the price down said company then mysteriously appears & offers a buyout price of say $2.50 per share, White Knite, which after the enduring torment thay have inflicted on the average retail shareholder for over a year, dare say alot would accept.

4, Large acquiring company has literally saved itself billions of $ off the purchase price simply by playing games with only $140,000,000.00

* As I have said earlier, I personally believe the fair value of Brainchip shares pressently should be well north of $4.50 Au , even pricing in world events.

The above is purely what I think is playing out before our eyes.

Regards,
Esq.
Where has the material interest disclosure been then?
 
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Who benefits by having the share price tightly controlled at this level or even sub 60c?

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If you look at the volume per day and the movement in the short interest you’ll find that it explains the majority of the trading
 
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VictorG

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"It's not about how hard you hit. It's about how hard you can get hit and keep moving forward." - Rocky Balboa
Queue Rocky theme 🎼 🎼 🎼 🎺 🎹 🎺
 
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I’ve probably missed this previously but this nViso general company presentation from December has some good info in it. Here’s a couple of slides. Neuromorphic module available this year at quite a large price variation. What percentage would Brainchip get I wonder?

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TheDon

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Afternoon TECH,

Good question & the only cenario I can think of is a large entity in our field of business screwing the price down.

But one of many ways...

Large entity goes out & on market Buys say the equivalent of say 100,000,000 shares for a combined average value of say $140,000,000.00.

Next step thay then proceed to use these shares, lend them out to a separate entity , although still the same parent entity, all linked through various offshore accounts , brokers etc to short the crap out of our share price.

In doing so thay...

1, pick up to $140,000,000.00 tax loss for the books.

2, the Short side of the equation Buys back and makes a profit at of $X...

3, Most importantly by playing with a relative pittance , $140,000,000.00, by screwing the price down said company then mysteriously appears & offers a buyout price of say $2.50 per share, White Knite, which after the enduring torment thay have inflicted on the average retail shareholder for over a year, dare say alot would accept.

4, Large acquiring company has literally saved itself billions of $ off the purchase price simply by playing games with only $140,000,000.00

* As I have said earlier, I personally believe the fair value of Brainchip shares pressently should be well north of $4.50 Au , even pricing in world events.

The above is purely what I think is playing out before our eyes.

Regards,
Esq.
Hi Esq,
In the event of the acquisition can the BRN Team block it or say its worth more the what they are offering?

Regards
TheDon
 
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VictorG

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Hi Esq,
In the event of the acquisition can the BRN Team block it or say its worth more the what they are offering?

Regards
TheDon
It is blocked if 25% or more of the outstanding shares vote against it
 
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Esq.111

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Afternoon TheDon,

A while ago this conversation was discussed in some depth.

Short answer is I am not up on the percentages required, but Peter, Anil & several others should have enough shares / percentage of company to block a takeover if thay so choose, & any offers of a takeover need to be divulged to shareholders as and when thay arrive.

Regards,
Esq.
 
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Esq.111

Fascinatingly Intuitive.
Where has the material interest disclosure been then?
Afternoon Techinvestor17,

You would be amazed at all the bits of paper which fail to be lodged , accidentally... cough , on time or at all if it isn't spotted .

But alas, the ASX , ASIC and a few other gov agencies keep them on a tight leash....coughing..

Esq.
 
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