BRN Discussion Ongoing

[Xray1]

One thing for sure, won’t we selling a single share before 2030 View attachment 30057

Are you wearing "Rose Coloured Glasses" ??? ...... The AGI will most likely be covered with an NDA of some kind with an ongoing " Cone of Silence " scenario.

 

[Slade]

Hope you're right. I've been patient for 7 years now...............

I feel you. That’s a long haul. I’m not sure I would have had the patience. But given that we haven’t been in the commercialisation phase very long, I personally think that the next 10 months will provide the answers that many of us are looking for.

 

[Damo4]

As others have said, an update on LSTM and transformers would have been valuable. What may or may ot happen in 10 years is midly interesting but not currently relevant. PVDM has always talked about AGI being the end goal so reference to that is certainly not new information.

I too would have liked a mention about LTSM and why Akida1500 seemingly is different to the original roadmap.
That wasn't what I was replying to in your message though, we all know this is the first we are hearing about a commercial plan for Akida10.
That to me is significant, and it was the first thing everyone started posting about, so other agree.
Also the yearly has nothing to do with the podcasts so I'm not sure why you mentioned it

 

[Rise from the ashes]

Yep, i think these "fireside chats" should include some shareholder inclusion, say via a Q&A

Nothing new for me. Now to wait another month for the same? .............

I think most wouldn't give a stuff if the share price was over a dollar am I right?

 

[toasty]

I feel you. That’s a long haul. I’m not sure I would have had the patience. But given that we haven’t been in the commercialisation phase very long, I personally think that the next 10 months will provide the answers that many of us are looking for.

I certinaly hope so. In my view one of the reasons for only now being in the commercialisation phase is that we have altered direction a couple of times. During the "accelerator/fpga" phase I was in direct contact with management about a very viable video/building automation use case. After some intial testing (which showed good potential) management cut off any further work with us saying they wanted to concentrate on law enforcement applications. Look how well that turned out..................

 

[Rise from the ashes]

I feel you. That’s a long haul. I’m not sure I would have had the patience. But given that we haven’t been in the commercialisation phase very long, I personally think that the next 10 months will provide the answers that many of us are looking for.

Slade how long have you been holding I always thought you were OG.?

 

[Techinvestor17]

Slade how long have you been holding I always thought you were OG.?

Your the OG mate, RAYZ is also another OG. There was another I’m sure but I can’t remember what their handle was called

 

[Seenitallnow]

I cannot believe the disdain that many are showing towards this podcast.

The conversation was clearly targeted to help shareholders understand that the future is bright.....the AKIDA1500 tape out was a focus with Rob clearly saying it has a specific consumer focus targeting high volume production.....he almost spoon fed the fact that there is a specific application that it has been produced for to suit the design of an existing client. He couldn't say anymore than that and Nandan was clearly supporting his assertions. GF would not have taken it on to become a part of their product suite if they weren't convinced the demand is there. Their time and resources are too valuable to back a hail Mary play.

Don't forget this is on top of the Renesas announcement that they are producing a consumer product incorporating Akida1000 IP.

The early part of the podcast focussed on why will be successful...ie we have low energy and fastest processing with on chip learning.......no wonder we have attracted the quality of staff like Nandan. He couldn't have sounded more confident in our future.

It's still very early days in the this edge AI revolution and we are planning to be around longer term as evidenced by Peter's 2030 forecasts.Significant revenue is coming whether that be 2023, 2024 or 2025 it doesn't really matter as the forward looking nature of markets results in the need to stay invested right now. Those who want to play short term volatility good luck to you but the one thing all types of investors have in common is we wish to buy either now or later!!

GLTAH DYOR

 

[Slade]

Slade how long have you been holding I always thought you were OG.?

No, only around 4 years. Admire those that have held on since the beginning. Great vision to see the potential in AI way back then.

 

[Rskiff]

So we have had Akida 1000 soon 1500, so Akida 2000 then 2500...........Will there be another 17 iterations?
And yet the share price slides on a fantastic road map of what is ahead.

 

[Xray1]

Cringe thinking about us share holders getting very excited about podcasts, then getting no useful info at all. The same goes for CES 2024 and other showcases.

To me it was nothing more than just a feel good "Fluff " podcast of things to come well well down the possible future track .... might of as well given us all an idea of what will come in say 20 years time with Akida20.
I also just like some others here would have much preferred to have heard more factual information about the current state of affairs with the LTSM ... Akida 1500 situation without breaching any NDA's.

 

[AusEire]

*lights the dumpster in anticipation*

 

[robsmark]

So we have had Akida 1000 soon 1500, so Akida 2000 then 2500...........Will there be another 17 iterations?
And yet the share price slides on a fantastic road map of what is ahead.

That’s because It’s not selling Rskiff. You can have the best product in the world but if it doesn’t sell then what is it worth?

 

[DingoBorat]

After Athens adopted slavery , more of the population were freed up to focus on intellectual pursuits, rather than agriculture, resulting in a golden age in philosophy/science and the arts.

I wonder if something similar would be possible once AI frees up portions of modern society from having to earn a living? And if, once freed, we’d be able to somehow outsmart the machines?

( haven’t read Simon’s paper or watched the debate yet, Dingo - so this is just a half-baked thought )

Well, they outsmarted them in the film Terminator

 

[Diogenese]

I was hoping to hear something concrete on LSTM/transformers.

The discussion on 1500 SoC suggests that sensor fusion may have provided some impetus dropping the ARM Cortex MPU. Of course, the Cortex is not included in the Akida IP, so maybe there is a doubting Thomas or two who have difficulty with the concept of a NN performing inference, classification, ML without a processor. Of course, 1500 will need an external processor for configuration, and, if I recollect correctly, for part of the CNN2SNN process.

1500 is designed to work as a NN accelerator with a CPU/GPU without the need for its own MPU, so it could be combined with, say, a SiFive RISC-V processor IP in a single SoC.

The 1500 SoC is to be provided as a demonstrator on a PCIe board. The 1500 IP will basically be the same as the 1000 IP with some modifications/improvements.

So, sensor fusion = Prophesee (+ NASA (inaccessible, long duration, with NASA's new enthusiasm for RISC-V)?

[recall NASA's SBIR for 22 nm FD_SOI NN without MPU] ...

... or just some boring old vibration sensor?

Actually, I'm not sure how much fusion we could do with a vibration sensor which would probably need some electromechanical transducer - (MEMS?).

 

[Rise from the ashes]

That’s because It’s not selling Rskiff. You can have the best product in the world but if it doesn’t sell then what is it worth?

I'm pinning my hopes on after renesas or whoever megachips licensed to release their products I would expect and desperately hope that kicks off more licensing of Akida ip. That is my signal to keep holding or drop this like a hot potato depending on the outcome for me personally.
Ahh also add a bit extra time for Mercedes.
Whoops add socionext also

 

[supersonic001]

Podcast is up: BrainChip’s Fireside Chat with Founder and CTO Peter van der Made and Chief Marketing Officer Nandan Nayampally discussing the future of AI. | BrainChip

Podcast is up: BrainChip’s Fireside Chat with Founder and CTO Peter van der Made and Chief Marketing Officer Nandan Nayampally discussing the future of AI. https://lnkd.in/gysCRdnQ #podcast #ai

www.linkedin.com

 

[Rise from the ashes]

I've posted another useless poll for those who care to vote.

Poll regarding being informed.

Also no time limit on the poll but one can change their vote anytime they wish.

thestockexchange.com.au

 

[Fullmoonfever]

The discussion on 1500 SoC suggests that sensor fusion may have provided some impetus dropping the ARM Cortex MPU. Of course, the Cortex is not included in the Akida IP, so maybe there is a doubting Thomas or two who have difficulty with the concept of a NN performing inference, classification, ML without a processor. Of course, 1500 will need an external processor for configuration, and, if I recollect correctly, for part of the CNN2SNN process.

1500 is designed to work as a NN accelerator with a CPU/GPU without the need for its own MPU, so it could be combined with, say, a SiFive RISC-V processor IP in a single SoC.

The 1500 SoC is to be provided as a demonstrator on a PCIe board. The 1500 IP will basically be the same as the 1000 IP with some modifications/improvements.

So, sensor fusion = Prophesee (+ NASA (inaccessible, long duration, with NASA's new enthusiasm for RISC-V)?

[recall NASA's SBIR for 22 nm FD_SOI NN without MPU] ...

... or just some boring old vibration sensor?

Actually, I'm not sure how much fusion we could do with a vibration sensor which would probably need some electromechanical transducer - (MEMS?).

@Diogenese

Question / thoughts.

By dropping the Arm processor I'm assuming it allows potential clients flexibility to also not have to pay an Arm licensing fee if not required in their design?

Though I know ARM proliferates most of the mkt...still?

 

[Seenitallnow]

@Seenitallnow , can I ask you 2 questions? Are over or under 50 years of age? How long have you been invested in BRN?

I am 61 yrs of age and first invested in BRN in early 2020 but had it on my radar from 2018(massive sceptic early on but it took a couple of years of research to understand where the market was going and why BRN was going to be successful).