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wilzy123

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That's what the AGM is for. So you can hear it from the company. I take it you'll be going, since you seem to have a lot of questions that no-one on here can answer for you.
Hopefully everyone that is worried right now, especially those that like to continually point out that they are worried, go to the AGM to ask their questions. Or I worry that they may continue to point out that they are worried, and then I would be worried for them, but not the least bit worried about the company as I have been all along.
 
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Hopefully everyone that is worried right now, especially those that like to continually point out that they are worried, go to the AGM to ask their questions. Or I worry that they may continue to point out that they are worried, and then I would be worried for them, but not the least bit worried about the company as I have been all along.
 
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Hopefully everyone that is worried right now, especially those that like to continually point out that they are worried, go to the AGM to ask their questions. Or I worry that they may continue to point out that they are worried, and then I would be worried for them, but not the least bit worried about the company as I have been all along.
Hopefully, those worried will not only come up with a complete list of concerns but will also ask to have any representation or statement presented by the company to be clarified.

I have seen statements that I believe were taken out of context, such as that made by Sean during the recent 30-minute investor presentation. I think the five or six minutes left afterward were inadequate for answering some of the questions with a well-crafted and clear reply while allowing for any follow-up questions to resolve any ambiguity.
 
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Don’t think I’ve seen this on here before. A few months old but might be worth a watch if anyone is interested




Thanks @Rocket577 for posting that one.

Another awesome presentation from our trusted partner!
 
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I totally agree. There's lots that the CEO can be talking about.

What's missing for mine, are statements along the line that Akida IP is currently being readied for problems in the following areas, or with the following models. If in the past SH has said that Akida can become ubiquitous, then he should provide a couple of new use cases, or retract.

Meanwhile folks on here who make obviously false claims like ARM has developed a chip that contains Akida, or that imply that Renesas' RZ chips already contain Akida do all the harm in the world and should be asked to leave, because they insult us.

Why can't people express their pain at the current SP?
It’s a bit difficult for a CEO to report about a Ubiquitous technology under a swathe of NDA’s… 🤪

Doesn’t leave much wriggle room for discussion and progress.. The CEO is the ecosystem fosterer and his worth is being revealed with its broadening network..

Tangibility of revenue and royalties will come.. Even if you look no further than ARM as a partner and it’s associated key employee migration, there’s enough smoke to warrant a potentially huge future out of control revenue fire.

AIMO
 
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Am I a buyer here? Not yet.

I’m a holder of a manageable and smaller speculative percentage position that is enough to benefit from a sudden significant move.

However, my friends usually hate it when they’ve been riding the consolidations in price for months and years then see me time an entry within days of strong price movements..

So I suspect with BRN as well, if the time is right to take a position at a probable positive inflection point I will be there again to capitalise on it.. Right now, is not yet a highly probable time IMO for a sustained appreciation ..
That may change within another month or even a few weeks, but until it does, I’ll be patient.. My investment account thanks me for it..
 
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Every second post on this thread is full of doubt.

Where did all this doubt and alwaysvictim come from all of a sudden I wonder.

Gee, has this happened before?

Can it be any more obvious?

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No Wilzy, enough of your conspiracy theories, just a substantial number of retail holders hanging on for dear life expressing frustration which in my view is fully justified. A number of factors have elevated expectations, including tidbits from the company. It is understandable and should be expected. Its hard to send a polite email to TD when you just wanna say hurry the F up and show me the $$$
 
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"conspiracy theories"
"hanging on for dear life"
"elevated expectations"
"hurry the F up and show me the $$$"

You sound like a perfectly rational and non-emotional investor. 👏
Ok im too emotional and impatient but remain rational.
 
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I think it healthy to take occasional breaks from here now and then.
Can become a little consuming and the older among us don't eat and breathe social media like those of you who have grown up with it. 🤣
Or it may be that life has simply gotten in the way, as it has a tendency to sometimes do.
Or maybe there's just nothing new or notable enough to comment on.
You can only advise to DYOR, be patient and work your own plan, just so many times, before it becomes tedious and repetitious.
Maybe they have decided to limit themselves to an inside cabal having sorted the grain from the chaff. 🤣
All supposition on my behalf of course and hope to read them here again in future times, but if not, I thank them for sharing their wisdom and experience in times past.
Or maybe the influx of people tearing the company down all of a sudden made the decision for them. I myself have seen this playbook a few too many times and am considering joining them. I'll stay true to company and hold though.

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Ok im too emotional and impatient but remain rational.
Every one just wants the money
I feel that they think creating an echo system is done with a wave of the magic 🪄 wand and poof it’s there. Dream on guys, if it were that easy everyone would be doing it.
It’s a snow ball soon to turn into an avalanche
The market is warming not only to get more investors back but to Ai
It’s going to flow like the a torrent after the thaw
What’s everyone’s rush to become rich
i want sustainability a long ride not a quick buck
if i did i would play the pokies
 
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I have a hypothetical question to all and be honest?

If BRN accomplished exactly what it has today partnerships and all these social media posts but the price was at say $1.50 would you all pissed off at the chiefs or waiting on up graded numbers and higher values.

I would bet atleast 90 % would be happily waiting. That is a fact.

I would be absolutely happy in that situation.
 
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Interesting recent interview with a team member from Sony Semicon who is working with Prophesee on EVS.

Nothing on us however my takeaway is an understanding of the "time and effort" that has to go into the joint dev, testing and production in merging tech to create one final product.

Food for thought & appreciation maybe in some TSE discussions re how long for consumer / commercial / enterprise product releases...and this by one of the industry giants :unsure:



Sony Semiconductor Solutions Group

Pursuing the approach to social value in developing new technology​

March 22, 2023
There has been a growing trend in recent years to combine AI with diverse sensors, and against this backdrop, the Event-based Vision Sensor (EVS) is garnering much interest.
This is a sensor that only extracts changes within a frame, enabling to significantly reduce the power consumption and the volume of data to be handled compared to the conventional frame-based sensing data.
It has great potential for extensive applications. We interviewed the engineer who developed the world’s smallest*1 pixel for EVS, Atsumi Niwa of Sony Semiconductor Solutions Corporation (SSS) Research Division 1, and asked him about his experience in the development project and the secrets of his success in creating the technology the world has never seen before.
*1) According to Sony research (as of September 2021)
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Niwa Atsumi
Sony Semiconductor Solutions Corporation
Research Division 1
Profile:Niwa joined the Sony Corporation’s Semiconductor Business Group (present SSS) in 2008.
He initially worked on the development of analog circuits for TV tuners, where he mainly designed the base band analog signal processors and AD converters. Subsequently, he contributed to enhance the performance of the CMOS image sensor for mobile applications. He joined the project to develop EVS in 2017, which led to the launch of IMX636 released in 2021. In recognition of this achievement, he received 2021 Sony Outstanding Engineer Award. Today, he pursues the internal rollout of the EVS technology and pursues to expand the scope of application for the technology through his development projects.

The desire to find out what contributions EVS might offer to society prompted him to participate in the project to commercialize the technology​

- What kind of sensor is an EVS?
EVS is a fundamentally different sensor from general image sensors which have been evolving so far to reproduce images as truthfully to our visions as possible. It measures differences in luminance at the pixel level and outputs the data with their coordinates and time stamps. There are three major advantages of EVS.
Firstly, EVS can detect the luminance changes without complex setting depended on light condition.
Thus user can easily use sensor compared to image sensor which requires lots of setting to produce optimal data.Secondly, it consumes far less power because the output data only contains the detected differences.
And thirdly, thanks to the pixel-parallel detection, EVS only outputs change unlike conventional image sensors, which read out approximately 30 to 60 frames of whole images per second. This allows EVS to respond quickly and capture changes at less than a millisecond.

Suppose that we are capturing a welding process in a factory, the conventional image sensors would produce an image that part is white out because the welded part is extremely bright. Similarly, the sparks must be observed to discern whether the welding is applied correctly, but the conventional image sensors are not capable of precisely capturing the fast-moving sparks. The EVS, on the other hand, can easily capture individual sparks even under this high-contrast condition.
Metal process monitoring
Frame-based sensor image
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The sparks are overexposed due to high luminance,
making linear trails in the image.
EVS image
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Each fast-moving spark is captured individually [high frame rate]
Data other than the sparks (such as the machinery) are not output [high efficiency: minimal data output]
Application output
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Each spark is tagged with ID and tracked
⇒ analyzable in terms of the number, size, speed, etc
Alternatively, the sensor’s capability to measure motion can be applied to machine inspection. Engines, for example, normally run constantly, and their movements in a normal condition become disturbed if there are some abnormalities. The EVS can be used to detect such abnormal movements to catch early signs of malfunctions.
Vibration monitoring
Frame-based sensor image
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It is impossible to discern the vibration
in the model car on the platform with naked eye.
EVS image
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Only the vibrating areas are processed and
output so that the vibration is clearly visualized.
Application output
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The frequency is analyzed per pixel and
can be mapped out in two dimensions.
- Has EVS existed for a long time?
The technology emerged during the first decade of the 2000s, inspired by the ways in which the human eye recognized images. The sensor only catches moving targets and outputs the data at high speed. This simply represents the high efficiency in only capturing changes, but the vision sensor has evolved through attempts to apply it to various contexts by combining with a neural network.*2
With reference to the point of efficiency I just mentioned, extracting change information from images captured using the conventional image sensors significantly increases power consumption and the volume of data to be handled. To further evolve AI, sensors will be expected to only provide the information required by the neural network, and EVS represents one of the viable options for this purpose.
*2) A series of algorithms for pattern recognition modeled on the ways in which the human brain operates.
- When you first came across this technology, did you immediately want to get involved in developing it?
When I heard of EVS, I found it interesting, and the idea of making one appealed to me. Also, I was curious to know how this technology could contribute to society.
My background was CMOS image sensors, developing them for taking clear pictures.
EVS with its principles totally different from what I knew excited me for discovering new potential. Soon afterwards, a French venture of sensing devices, Prophesee, approached us to propose a joint project to commercialize EVS. This project was the first attempt in the world to turn EVS into a commercial product. I was keen to witness firsthand how the technology would contribute to society and decided to join the project.

Unprecedented external joint development, having to deal with differences in everything from workflows to technical terms​

- What was the most difficult part in developing this EVS with the smallest pixels in the world?
Each pixel in an EVS has its event detection circuit. If the circuit specifications become demanding, the pixel size increases to accommodate all of it, and this was a problem. The possibilities of implementing it on wearable devices and smartphones make it absolutely necessary that the pixels are smaller and more power-efficient.
So, we decided to design a circuit from scratch, drawing on SSS’s expertise, stacking technology and circuit design know-how.
It was hard-going at the stage where we combined this new circuit design with the process technology. We had many trials and errors before achieving the pixel size reduction.
Meanwhile, another difficulty was to deal with so many unknown factors. Usually, we pursue a development by supposing some use contexts for the product, but the technology concerning EVS had not been established within SSS. We could imagine some use cases but could not verify whether desired data could be obtained without actually testing.
Moreover, the technology being new to us, we had no adequate equipment for verification, data acquisition and, therefore, evaluation. It was necessary to develop the environment for technological verification in parallel with the product development, which made the project time-consuming and difficult to organize.
- This was the first collaboration with other companies in the EVS domain. How did you find it?
There have been many collaborative projects where responsibilities were clearly divided. This time, it was the first ever experience for me as well as for SSS in that two companies joined forces to develop and design one stacked sensor.
SSS has predetermined design development workflows, and these are, obviously, unique to the company. The language we use is also different from theirs.
Communication was often riddled with difficulties due to the differences in the technical background knowledge between Prophesee and SSS. We made efforts to maintain close communication with them and ensure mutual understanding because many little misunderstandings would eventually slow down the development schedules.
While Prophesee and SSS were in agreement to leverage our expertise to create a highly sophisticated EVS product, there were some discrepancies as to what level to be aimed at and how the product should be promoted. We needed to spend quite a lot of time to ensure that we had the same understanding.
The collaboration entailed the establishment of a new development flow in tandem with the product development, and also a new evaluation environment was to be developed. All in all, this was a whole new experience for us.
On top of this, the new concept EVS presented necessitated enduring efforts to explain to people within the Company so that they understood the sensor’s characteristics and were interested in this project. These efforts were necessary to build up the project team.
- How did you face the unfamiliar development workflow?
Despite the difficulties experienced in the development processes and communication, I enjoyed the job very much. I also learned much from the project.
For Prophesee, this technology determines their corporate success or failure. Seeing their uncompromising attitude to details, I thought we could learn from it.

Finding semiconductors interesting at university lab​

- When did you become interested in semiconductors?
I was studying circuit design at university, and though our lab was not dealing with the latest processes, we the students were making prototypes and studying the discrepancies between theories and implementations. It was the process of probing why and how the reality defied theories that appealed to me, and I found semiconductors interesting in this way.
The theory-oriented lab taught me the pleasure of in-depth thinking. Joining this lab was a pivotal experience for my future course of life.
- What was the deciding factor for your joining SSS?
At the end of my master’s course, I was in two minds about staying on to pursue a Doctor of Philosophy. Meanwhile, I saw recruiters of various corporations, of whom the members of SSS left a good impression in me. They said that, at SSS, it was possible to propose and pursue projects based on what you found interesting. It seemed to be a great place to be if I wanted to pursue what interested me.
At the time, I was enjoying the process of theorizing and testing the theory at the university lab, and I was also drawn to the idea of creating products and seeing how they benefited people in society. These were the factors that made me want to test my abilities at SSS.
- Have you ever experienced a failure?
I did when I was engaged in the development of CMOS image sensors for cell phones. I was working on a very demanding project in terms of development requirements, so much so that some people in the Company found it unjustifiable.
I was determined to succeed and managed to make it to the prototyping phase. However, a new specification was added before the commercialization. This latest addition proved to be totally incompatible with the structure of the prototype, and eventually my development had to be suspended.
The technology was modified and eventually adopted in the client’s later model. Even so, the taste of failure in the first attempt was so bitter.

Think deeply about the technology, what value it offers and how it can contribute to society​

- What do you pay attention to when you work?
I take time to consider the research and development project at hand in terms of its future significance and diffusion of value.
Any research and development would need to envision how the technology under development might be put to use. However, thinking about it within a framework of today’s conventions and values may lead to an impasse.
If you are confined in the values of conventional image sensors, for example, you might fail to see the worth of EVS by thinking that the sensor “only captures changes,” which is not a feature required for producing clear images. I think this is a trap that we should avoid. I would like to be someone who really think through “what value can be found” in only capturing changes and “what it will make possible.”
Today, I am fortunate to be at the research division, where we give a thorough consideration on the contributions to society which could be made by the technology we develop and study, and the value it offers. I always learn from this approach.
- What would you like to work on in the future?
SSS has so far been focused on image sensors that are capable of capturing the world as we see it as truthfully as possible, and the world has been demanding such technology and products.
However, I believe that the future opens up to approaches to changing our ways of life from the viewpoint of “social richness.” A sensor may not be able to capture a beautiful photo for viewing, but it is designed to extract some information, which will enable a system to function in such a way that it liberates us humans from our heavy-load tasks.
I would like to be part of the efforts to expand the imaging technology for “photography” into the domain of sensing for “obtaining necessary information.” It would be exciting to keep exploring the possible value that sensing technology can create.
I imagine that the future will have richer combinations of new image sensors and their applications, making our lives better and turning society into a more interesting place. With the technology concerning image sensors at the core, how should we leverage it and what value can be derived from it? We would like to adopt this application-oriented approach to prove the value we create so that our work and products will lead to positive changes in society.
- Image sensors that enrich society sounds like a wonderful idea.
An ambition like this cannot be fulfilled by a solo effort. This is why I always discuss desirable image sensors with many colleagues from various fields of expertise.
And discussing is not enough to move things forward. I think it is important to always keep myself open to new information and keep an extensive network of people as potential source.
- Interviewer’s postscript
It is clear that Niwa has a constant attitude of pursuing something, such as theories at university, the project which everyone else had given up on at the development division, and value for society which he currently pursues at the research division. It seemed to me that this attitude and persistence to challenge were a crucial part of his competence that enabled him to create something the world had never known. His journey to explore the potential of image sensors is far from over. It will be exciting to see what kind of technology he comes up with next to surprise us.

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Valeo Patent, translate this and you'll read some interesting descriptions and claims in the invention that truly highlight how spiking neural networks and autonomous driving go seamlessly together, if that patent isn't referring to our technology, well then I give up. :ROFLMAO:

It's not to hard to read once you have translated it !

 
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Valeo Patent, translate this and you'll read some interesting descriptions and claims in the invention that truly highlight how spiking neural networks and autonomous driving go seamlessly together, if that patent isn't referring to our technology, well then I give up. :ROFLMAO:

It's not to hard to read once you have translated it !

Yep, gotta like those highlighted bits.

In another embodiment, detecting objects in the three-dimensional point cloud includes using a neural network.

[0027]​


In another embodiment, detected objects are classified into different categories by the neural network.

[0028]​


The neural network, which can be understood as a software algorithm, is particularly trained for one or more computer vision tasks, for example including object detection and/or segmentation and/or classification.

[0029]​


According to several implementations, the neural network is implemented as a spiking neural network (SNN) or as a convolutional neural network (CNN).

[0030]​

 
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Frangipani

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Sorry Hoppy, but I plan on coming to the AGM without any shoes on, or maybe thongs depending on how wet it is, so I'm pretty sure I've got the whole 'Belle of the Ball" zeitgeist completely monopolized. One peek at my tootsies is all it will take to leave anyone else, including @The Pope in the dust. Apologies in advance your holiness.

I can’t help but picture a number of guys unfamiliar with the Aussie meaning of “thongs” now hastily booking plane tickets to Sydney for the AGM, as they hope you will turn up in very little underwear… 🤣🤣🤣
 
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New just released 1hr ago Sean Heir interview with Edge Impulse

 
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TWEET by Edge Impulse just 8 minutes ago


A neuromorphic visual sensor can recognise moving objects and predict their path​

Published: 17.4.2023
The new smart sensor uses embedded information to detect motion in a single video frame

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Conventional sensors only capture a single moment in a frame, but the new sensor can read information about the past and use that to predict the future. Image: Hongwei Tan / Aalto University

A new bio-inspired sensor can recognise moving objects in a single frame from a video and successfully predict where they will move to. This smart sensor, described in a Nature Communications paper, will be a valuable tool in a range of fields, including dynamic vision sensing, automatic inspection, industrial process control, robotic guidance, and autonomous driving technology.

Current motion detection systems need many components and complex algorithms doing frame-by-frame analyses, which makes them inefficient and energy-intensive. Inspired by the human visual system, researchers at Aalto University have developed a new neuromorphic vision technology that integrates sensing, memory, and processing in a single device that can detect motion and predict trajectories.

At the core of their technology is an array of photomemristors, electrical devices that produce electric current in response to light. The current doesn’t immediately stop when the light is switched off. Instead, it decays gradually, which means that photomemristors can effectively ‘remember’ whether they’ve been exposed to light recently. As a result, a sensor made from an array of photomemristors doesn’t just record instantaneous information about a scene, like a camera does, but also includes a dynamic memory of the preceding instants.

‘The unique property of our technology is its ability to integrate a series of optical images in one frame,’ explains Hongwei Tan, the research fellow who led the study. ‘The information of each image is embedded in the following images as hidden information. In other words, the final frame in a video also has information about all the previous frames. That lets us detect motion earlier in the video by analysing only the final frame with a simple artificial neural network. The result is a compact and efficient sensing unit.’

To demonstrate the technology, the researchers used videos showing the letters of a word one at a time. Because all the words ended with the letter ‘E’, the final frame of all the videos looked similar. Conventional vision sensors couldn’t tell whether the ‘E’ on the screen had appeared after the other letters in ‘APPLE’ or ‘GRAPE’. But the photomemristor array could use hidden information in the final frame to infer which letters had preceded it and predict what the word was with nearly 100% accuracy.

In another test, the team showed the sensor videos of a simulated person moving at three different speeds. Not only was the system able to recognize motion by analysing a single frame, but it also correctly predicted the next frames.

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The sensor is made of an array of photo memristors. Image: Hongwei Tan / Aalto University

Accurately detecting motion and predicting where an object will be are vital for self-driving technology and intelligent transport. Autonomous vehicles need accurate predictions of how cars, bikes, pedestrians, and other objects will move in order to guide their decisions. By adding a machine learning system to the photomemristor array, the researchers showed that their integrated system can predict future motion based on in-sensor processing of an all-informative frame.

‘Motion recognition and prediction by our compact in-sensor memory and computing solution provides new opportunities in autonomous robotics and human-machine interactions,’ says Professor Sebastiaan van Dijken. ‘The in-frame information that we attain in our system using photomemristors avoids redundant data flows, enabling energy-efficient decision-making in real time.’
 
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So your complaint is a lack of comms from Management and lots of info from TSEx instead.
Yet you post your complaints here ad nauseum , ruining the experience for those same members who have provided you with useful info.

Edit: missed the link post I meant to add: https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/08/why-complaining-rewires-your-brain-to-be-negative/
"The second thing you can do—and only when you have something that is truly worth complaining about—is to engage in solution-oriented complaining. Think of it as complaining with a purpose. "
Agree!
 
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seems like the big institutions are still buying, is this not a good sign? View attachment 34445

I also see the same picture, institutions buying, while the price has been declining.

Then we have to think supply/demand who's supplying the shares? Most likely the private investors.

It's a shame that private investors doesn't have stronger hands....

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