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[DingoBorat]

https://openaccess.thecvf.com/content/CVPR2021W/MAI/papers/Ignatov_Real-Time_Quantized_Image_Super-Resolution_on_Mobile_NPUs_Mobile_AI_2021_CVPRW_2021_paper.pdf

 

[Doz]

From their Wikipedia page.

"Synaptics Incorporated is a publicly owned San Jose, California-based developer of human interface (HMI) hardware and software, including touchpads for computer laptops; touch, display driver, and fingerprint biometrics technology for smartphones; and touch, video and far-field voice technology for smart home devices and automotives. Synaptics sells its products to original equipment manufacturers (OEMs) and display manufacturers"

They sound like a good match for BrainChip, I wonder when the partnership announcement will be?...

Hey Dingo , I wonder if Synaptics is all over the Renesas RA8M1 with the Arm cortex M85 for fingerprint biometrics like Mantra Softech are ?

Why am I starting to picture the implementation of fingerprint scanners for entry and push button start up of every new vehicle . This could send some motor vehicle insurance companies to the wall …..

 

[DingoBorat]

Hey Dingo , I wonder if Synaptics is all over the Renesas RA8M1 with the Arm cortex M85 for fingerprint biometrics like Mantra Softech are ?

Why am I starting to picture the implementation of fingerprint scanners for entry and push button start up of every new vehicle . This could send some motor vehicle insurance companies to the wall …..


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Most probably..

Kind of sick of seeing Helium everywhere..

Is that the one that blows up ..

Actually, that gif reminds me of something else that happens, when I initially see A.I. in connection with something, but then read it's Helium ..

 

[Esq.111]

Afternoon Chippers ,

This just popped up on TV .

Think this may have been shared some time ago by a fellow chipper.

Interesting , seems to be progressing .

https://www.toyota.com.au/mobility/woven-city?gad_source=1&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIn8fm8rvZggMVGqlmAh10ggsREAAYASAAEgJjV_D_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Naturally nothing directly linking us , but certainly would be riddled with all conceivable sensors.

Regards,
Esq.

 

[Diogenese]

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I wonder why Fierce Electronics (IOT & wireless) published this article in April of interviews with Nandan Nayampally from Brainchip and Elad Baram of Synaptics:

https://www.fierceelectronics.com/iot-wireless/how-smart-edge-get

How smart will the edge get?​

By Gary Hilson Apr 6, 2023 10:00am


Note: No association is mentioned and we already know what Nandan said, but they may have bumped elbows entering/leaving the interview room.

 

[Diogenese]

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Silly old Verisilicon (who seem to be rooted in China) use MACs:

US11599334B2 Enhanced multiply accumulate device for neural networks 20200609

A device for performing multiply/accumulate operations processes values in first and second buffers and having a first width using a computational pipeline with a second width, such as half the first width. A sequencer processes combinations of portions (high-high, low-low, high-low, low-high) of the values in the first and second buffers using a multiply/accumulate circuit and adds the accumulated result of each combination of portions to a group accumulator. Adding to the group accumulator may be preceded by left shifting the accumulated result (the first width for the high-high combination and the second width for the low-high and high-low combination).

 

[Tothemoon24]

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[DingoBorat]

I wonder why Fierce Electronics (IOT & wireless) published this article in April of interviews with Nandan Nayampally from Brainchip and Elad Baram of Synaptics:

https://www.fierceelectronics.com/iot-wireless/how-smart-edge-get

How smart will the edge get?​

By Gary Hilson Apr 6, 2023 10:00am


Note: No association is mentioned and we already know what Nandan said, but they may have bumped elbows entering/leaving the interview room.

Maybe while waiting in the Green Room?..

 

[GRN-BRN]

 

[David holland]

Nope, that’s right - but this is definitely future potential ‘for sure’ as Sean would say

How about we see some return on 1, 1.5 and 2 hey

 

[Fact Finder]

How about we see some return on 1, 1.5 and 2 hey

AKD1000 two nodes IP $1 million approx Renesas

AKD1000 IP $3.25 million with $750,000 to come MEGACHIPS

Ford EAP AKD1000 IP EAP $50,000 approx;

Valeo EAP AKD1000 IP undisclosed milestone payments

NASA EAP AKD1000 IP $50,000

All verified in announcements and in 4C’s, Half Yearly & Annual Reports. NASA also verified payment in publicly available records.

My opinion only DYOR
FACT FINDER

AKIDA BALLISTA

 

[Doz]

Ecosystem ……

 

[David holland]

AKD1000 two nodes IP $1 million approx Renesas

AKD1000 IP $3.25 million with $750,000 to come MEGACHIPS

Ford EAP AKD1000 IP EAP $50,000 approx;

Valeo EAP AKD1000 IP undisclosed milestone payments

NASA EAP AKD1000 IP $50,000

All verified in announcements and in 4C’s, Half Yearly & Annual Reports. NASA also verified payment in publicly available records.

My opinion only DYOR
FACT FINDER

AKIDA BALLISTA

Thanks for that,just reminded myself and I'm sure others of Revenue,
Question was more pointed to obtaining revenue from Royalties to its fullest potentials in these 3 products

 

[wilzy123]

How about we see some return on 1, 1.5 and 2 hey

This is probably the most underbaked "investor" comment I've seen in a long time about BRN.

I reckon even the crapper wouldn't tolerate this level of intellect

 

[Jumpchooks]

https://openaccess.thecvf.com/content/CVPR2021W/MAI/papers/Ignatov_Real-Time_Quantized_Image_Super-Resolution_on_Mobile_NPUs_Mobile_AI_2021_CVPRW_2021_paper.pdf

Holly Mother of Mercertroud! I think we should be calling you guys #Encyclopedia Fact Finder or Wiki Dio

Thank you so much for your sharing of wisdom ​

 

[Perhaps]

Most probably..

Kind of sick of seeing Helium everywhere..

Is that the one that blows up ..

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Actually, that gif reminds me of something else that happens, when I initially see A.I. in connection with something, but then read it's Helium ..

To shine a light on ARM Helium again:
It's a vector extension which extends the instruction-set architecture. That leads to faster and more complex processes. It enables a run without additional accelerator, delivering better results than earlier generations and keep the costs down.
This is not the competitor. Of course you can reach even better results with the use of additional accelerators, so it's more a question of AND not OR.
Also the full commercialisation of Helium now gives a good idea about industry timelines, as the extension is in the pipeline since 2019.

In first place each company in the world will favour their inhouse solutions, all are in it for maximum profit, just a natural thing. Secondly stands the aquisition of new technology to the own pipeline. The history of the big tech players is full of it.
The least attractive solution is the use of IP from a start-up.

This is the world Brainchip is living in. For a breakthrough it needs a full commercialised product with Akida inside, which shows real advances to the competition. This could be the initialization of a snowball effect with a big wave starting.

So the remaining question is, who will be the first using not much loved IP as a standard in a commercial product, not as an option.

 

[Boab]

Interesting stuff from Socionext.

Examining the mind's eye of a neural network system

In the background of image recognition software that can ID our friends on social media and wildflowers in our yard are neural networks, a type of artificial intelligence inspired by how own our brains process data.

techxplore.com

 

[Diogenese]

To shine a light on ARM Helium again:
It's a vector extension which extends the instruction-set architecture. That leads to faster and more complex processes. It enables a run without additional accelerator, delivering better results than earlier generations.
This is not the competitor. Of course you can reach even better results with the use of additional accelerators, so it's more a question of AND not OR.
Also the full commercialisation of Helium now gives a good idea about industry timelines, as the extension is in the pipeline since 2019.

In first place each company in the world will favour their inhouse solutions, all are in it for maximum profit, just a natural thing. Secondly stands the aquisition of new technology to the own pipeline. The history of the big tech players is full of it.
The least attractive solution is the use of IP from a start-up.

This is the world Brainchip is living in. For a breakthrough it needs a full commercialised product with Akida inside, which shows real advances to the competition. This could be the initialization of a snowball effect with a big wave starting.

So the remaining question is, who will be the first using not much loved IP as a standard in a commercial product, not as an option.

Well at the moment it looks like VVDN's Edge Box will be the first to have a commercial product incorporating the Akida chip.

I always reckoned that the chip would be a quicker way to market than the IP. It's just a matter of gluing them onto a PCB and loading the model, none of this circuit design, taping out, sample testing ...

 

[DingoBorat]

To shine a light on ARM Helium again:
It's a vector extension which extends the instruction-set architecture. That leads to faster and more complex processes. It enables a run without additional accelerator, delivering better results than earlier generations and keep the costs down.
This is not the competitor. Of course you can reach even better results with the use of additional accelerators, so it's more a question of AND not OR.
Also the full commercialisation of Helium now gives a good idea about industry timelines, as the extension is in the pipeline since 2019.

In first place each company in the world will favour their inhouse solutions, all are in it for maximum profit, just a natural thing. Secondly stands the aquisition of new technology to the own pipeline. The history of the big tech players is full of it.
The least attractive solution is the use of IP from a start-up.

This is the world Brainchip is living in. For a breakthrough it needs a full commercialised product with Akida inside, which shows real advances to the competition. This could be the initialization of a snowball effect with a big wave starting.

So the remaining question is, who will be the first using not much loved IP as a standard in a commercial product, not as an option.

That's what they're wanting to accomplish, with the VVDN edge box.

It will be measurable between direct competitors, like Nvidia's offerings.

Performance is likely going to be comparable (I really have no idea), but at a much much lower price point and orders of magnitude savings in power usage.

It may offer a very stark contrast, of the available technologies..

 

[Perhaps]

Well at the moment it looks like VVDN's Edge Box will be the first to have a commercial product incorporating the Akida chip.

I always reckoned that the chip would be a quicker way to market than the IP. It's just a matter of gluing them onto a PCB and loading the model, none of this circuit design, taping out, sample testing ...

That's the way they go with lots of the partnerships, as the work with IP is only possible for the big players or silicon designers.
The IP only model has changed to a 2-way commercialisation for a while now.
The edge box is more to see like an upgraded and easier to use dev kit and will not go into volume production.
I think the breaking point is the commercialisation of a mass product using Brainchip technology as a standard.
This can also happen by one of the partnerships who offer their solutions to OEM manufacturers.