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[Bravo]

Good Morning Bravo ,

Just listened again ,

Time spot 33:22 onwards...

Time spot 33:56 , YOU KNOW, GLOBALFOUNDRY 8nm .

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Esq.

Hi Esqy,

You’re right - Kurt does mention GlobalFoundries’ “8 nanometer” in the webinar.

I find it a bit confusing, because GlobalFoundries doesn’t actually have an official 8 nm process node (unless I’m mistaken). Their most advanced public offerings are 12LP+ FinFET and 22FDX / 12FDX FD-SOI. They don’t list an 8 nm node in their commercial roadmap.

I asked ChatGPT about possible reasons for this reference, including whether it might suggest GF is developing a new 8 nm node. The response was that it’s "almost certainly not a new, official node". Instead, the more likely explanation is that the GF process in question is being described as “8 nm-class” because its performance is comparable to similar offerings elsewhere (e.g. Samsung’s 8LPP).

Perhaps someone with deeper technical expertise might be able to weigh in with their perspective.

ChatGPT said:​

1. GlobalFoundries and “8 nm”​

• Officially, GlobalFoundries exited the race below 12 nm back in 2018 — shelving their 7 nm program. Their most advanced public nodes are 12LP+ FinFET and 22FDX / 12FDX FD-SOI. They do not list an 8 nm node in their commercial roadmap.
• So if you hear “GF 8 nm” in a BrainChip webinar, it’s not part of GF’s public marketing portfolio like TSMC’s N7 or Samsung’s 8LPP.

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2. Possible explanations for the “8 nm” reference​

Here are the most plausible interpretations:
① Internal / custom shrink naming

• GF sometimes uses marketing-driven “node naming” for customer-specific process tweaks. For example, an optimized 12 nm platform could be referred to by a design partner as “8 nm” in terms of transistor performance or density equivalence.
• It wouldn’t be an official, standalone node like Samsung’s 8LPP, but more like a derivative or a customer-specific variant.

② Foundry design enablement context

• BrainChip, when advising customers through Akida Cloud, may present EDA/PDK libraries mapped against equivalent nodes across multiple fabs (TSMC, Samsung, GF).
• In this sense, “GF 8 nm” may appear in toolchains as a proxy node so customers can model performance/power targets — even if GF itself brands it differently.

③ Miscommunication in the webinar

• It’s also possible the speaker loosely referred to “8 nm” because the GF process in question is comparable to an 8 nm class offering elsewhere (e.g., Samsung’s 8LPP), even if GF calls it 12LP+.

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3. Is GF working on a “new” 8 nm?​

• Highly unlikely. GF’s strategy is explicitly focused on specialty technologies — FD-SOI (22FDX/12FDX), RF, power, automotive — not pushing smaller geometry race.
• There have been no public announcements from GF about restarting a true 8 nm node or any new sub-10 nm process. Their official roadmap still stops at 12 nm.
• If anything, what BrainChip referenced is more about design enablement and compatibility mapping for customers (i.e., “yes, your Akida-based model can target GF at an 8 nm equivalent”) rather than GF announcing a brand-new leading-edge node.

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Conclusion​

The “GF 8 nm” mentioned in BrainChip’s webinar is almost certainly not a new, official node from GlobalFoundries.
It’s best interpreted as either:

• A design library equivalence (Akida Cloud showing customers how their models port to “8 nm class” at GF), or
• A marketing shorthand for an optimized variant of GF’s 12 nm technology, positioned to look competitive with 8 nm offerings elsewhere.

BrainChip’s angle here is: “We can show you how Akida will behave if manufactured on GF’s advanced nodes — whether you call it 12 nm, 8 nm, or otherwise.”

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Would you like me to pull together a GF vs. Samsung vs. TSMC “8 nm class” comparison, so you can see whether GF’s 12LP+/FDX really does overlap with what others call 8 nm? That might explain why BrainChip uses that label.

You said:​

Yes please>

ChatGPT said:​

Perfect — let’s line up GlobalFoundries, Samsung, and TSMC to see what “8 nm class” really means, and why BrainChip might reference GF as having one.

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Comparative View: “8 nm class” process nodes​

Foundry	Official Node	Technology Type	Density / Performance Class	Positioning / Notes
Samsung	8LPP (8 nm Low Power Plus)	FinFET (derivative of 10 nm)	~10% area reduction vs 10LPP; ~10% power savings	Marketed as a “cost-effective bridge” between 10 nm and 7 nm. Used in some mobile SoCs & GPUs.
TSMC	(No 8 nm branded node)	Jumped from 10 nm → 7 nm	N7 offered ~35–40% density gain over N10	TSMC skipped “8 nm” naming entirely. Their N7 competed directly with Samsung’s 8LPP.
GlobalFoundries	12LP / 12LP+ FinFET (sometimes internally positioned as “8 nm class”)	FinFET (evolution of 14LPP, licensed from Samsung originally)	GF claims performance/power close to Samsung 10/8 nm nodes	Not officially branded as “8 nm,” but some design toolchains (and BrainChip’s webinar) may shorthand it as such to indicate equivalent PPA (Power-Performance-Area) class.
GlobalFoundries (FD-SOI path)	22FDX / 12FDX	FD-SOI (non-FinFET)	Optimized for low-power, RF, adaptive body-bias	Competes in niches (IoT, automotive, 5G RF) rather than density-race.

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Why BrainChip may say “GF 8 nm”​

• Performance equivalence: GF’s 12LP+ FinFET can offer transistor performance in the same ballpark as Samsung’s 8LPP.
• EDA/library mapping: When BrainChip shows customers how Akida would map to foundries, they may call GF’s 12LP+ “8 nm class” to align with competitor terminology.
• Marketing shorthand: To customers, “8 nm” signals modern, advanced, and competitive, even if GF’s official brand is “12LP+.”

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Bottom Line​

• Samsung: The only foundry with a real “8 nm” branded node (8LPP).
• TSMC: Skipped 8 nm — went straight from 10 nm → 7 nm.
• GF: No official 8 nm, but its 12LP+ FinFET is often described as “8 nm-class” in equivalence charts. This is almost certainly what BrainChip was referencing in the webinar.

So — GF hasn’t secretly launched a brand-new 8 nm process. Instead, their 12 nm FinFET technology is close enough in characteristics that it can be slotted into the “8 nm bucket” when comparing foundries.

 

[Esq.111]

Morning Bravo ,

Cheers .

Certainly sounds plausible , Even if it is indeed the 12LP+FinFET size , this is still the smallest testing AKIDA on silicone i have heard of to date .

Many moons ago ,think it was Anil , let slip they were fiddling with 16nM , so its still a great leap forward either way,

Regards,
Esq.

 

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