AVZ Discussion 2022

[ptlas]

How much longer are the MoM / President willing to let this play out is the big question ? At some point they have to make a call . To let it drag on makes them look redundant and ineffective and is not in the country's best interest . It's a matter of Urgency . It's holding up the Nation's progress . They want to make Batteries FFS . So the question is not about who gets what . The important question is , when does the President/MoM say enough is enough . It's coming . I hope we are on the right side when it does .

When it benefits them the most.

Much closer to the election?

 

[cruiser51]

go for your hearts content id say, Zijin are just a bunch of cants and i think everyone would agree with that

You better give your spell checker a reboot.

 

[Misfits]

Could it be the DRC Gov need to wait on the MMSC outcome to ensure when they cut up the Manono pie, it is done once and only once? Would the Gov not want to make 100% they hold the percentage they want and no surprises? All other ICC cases on equity are between AVZ, Zijin and Dathomir, so IMO once ICC ruling is out on MMSC then there should be no reason a final deal can be cut with AVZ. Anything around 80% AVZ and 20% DRC Gov would be a good outcome.

However the reverse may apply to AVZ after agreement struck with Gov, how much of the equity AVZ hold in Dathcom could be at risk from Zijin and Dathcom? One would think very small risk of loosing anything on the Zijin and Dathomir fronts, in fact there should be damages awarded to AVZ IMO, but we are not there yet.

Fox/anyone know when this decision on MMSC needs to be decided?

 

[M.Bison]

One has to wonder about the opportunity cost of letting this get dragged through the courts endlessly. We can assume that some entity, be that a competing mining company, or the DRC gov itself wants their hands on a bigger slice of this. Surely a serious investor would just launch a takeover offer, as opposed to risking a multiple year court case.

 

[Dazmac66]

When it benefits them the most.

Much closer to the election?

Agree with you on this - we are a very expensive pawn (in terms of opportunity cost) in in an election campaign, not only in direct votes for the big ticket effect of the ML but also in protecting the corrupt elements that attract votes. Could be a major shakeup if and when the government is voted in for another term.

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Look everyone is angry as fuck but I tend to agree with what's being said about keeping it respectful with DRC ministers.

Yes it SHOULD mean nothing, words on twitter! It is utterly pathetic that words on twitter might govern Policy in the DRC.

But it IS the DRC, they're entrenched in deep corruption, there's multiple factions all wanting more power and money.
They're extremerly sensitive, they're NOT sophisticated in the way the west has been for a long time now.

I expect laws to be followed too, but that's just not really how things happen.
It's fucked as fucked can be!

But what if we really are causing setbacks by calling them all a pack of lying corrupt cunts?

I think CKK is fair game, and Zijin too.

And when it comes to ministers, you can still state that the IGF finds the MoP acted unlawfully.
You can still do it respectfully.
Even the Congolese are shaking their heads at us, saying we don't understand DRC.

Azzler: "But what if we really are causing setbacks by calling them all a pack of lying corrupt cunts?
I think CKK is fair game, and Zijin too.
And when it comes to ministers, you can still state that the IGF finds the MoP acted unlawfully. You can still do it respectfully.
Even the Congolese are shaking their heads at us, saying we don't understand DRC."

Been busy, catching up on posts here & on SM. I may be wrong, but I agree with where I've quoted Azzler above. Nige & BoD are all in, calling CKK & Zijin's bluff, to the ICC. US is increasing influence in DRC Battery Council. Better we don't piss off DRC Govt and officials. IMO. Br, Sparrowhawk.

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Except that there’s a troll on the bird who’s clearly read the stuff here and decided to ramp up the attacks

Time to report @FizzTyson on twitter.

 

[Onthefm]

Azzler: "But what if we really are causing setbacks by calling them all a pack of lying corrupt cunts?
I think CKK is fair game, and Zijin too.
And when it comes to ministers, you can still state that the IGF finds the MoP acted unlawfully. You can still do it respectfully.
Even the Congolese are shaking their heads at us, saying we don't understand DRC."

Been busy, catching up on posts here & on SM. I may be wrong, but I agree with where I've quoted Azzler above. Nige & BoD are all in, calling CKK & Zijin's bluff, to the ICC. US is increasing influence in DRC Battery Council. Better we don't piss off DRC Govt and officials. IMO. Br, Sparrowhawk.

Your All over it mate imo

 

[Sparrowhawk12]

Time to report @FizzTyson on twitter.

@FizzTyson has me blocked. I reported them anyway. Can others check his behavior & report him if he seems a troll & is harming our / AVZ' cause.

 

[wombat74]

@FizzTyson has me blocked. I reported them anyway. Can others check his behavior & report him if he seems a troll & is harming our / AVZ' cause.

Fact is a certain percentage of this sh1t cannot be stopped . Anti AVZers use SM as their weapon . It's up to the DRC gov to use some common sense . The only people they should be listening to is Nigel and his team . If it doesn't come from them then it should mean SFA . Fair enough genuine investors could be a little more mindful , but if the DRC gov are considering what is posted on social media by strangers/ impostors as part of their final decision making then it's not going to help us.

 

[GuruDukun]

Azzler: "But what if we really are causing setbacks by calling them all a pack of lying corrupt cunts?
I think CKK is fair game, and Zijin too.
And when it comes to ministers, you can still state that the IGF finds the MoP acted unlawfully. You can still do it respectfully.
Even the Congolese are shaking their heads at us, saying we don't understand DRC."

Been busy, catching up on posts here & on SM. I may be wrong, but I agree with where I've quoted Azzler above. Nige & BoD are all in, calling CKK & Zijin's bluff, to the ICC. US is increasing influence in DRC Battery Council. Better we don't piss off DRC Govt and officials. IMO. Br, Sparrowhawk.

This!

 

[Flexi]

 

[Flexi]

 

[Carlos Danger]

Fact is a certain percentage of this sh1t cannot be stopped . Anti AVZers use SM as their weapon . It's up to the DRC gov to use some common sense . The only people they should be listening to is Nigel and his team . If it doesn't come from them then it should mean SFA . Fair enough genuine investors could be a little more mindful , but if the DRC gov are considering what is posted on social media by strangers/ impostors as part of their final decision making then it's not going to help us.

Fun fact people would stop talking shit about the DRC officials if they simply did their job and granted Dathcom its mining licence that passed all regulatory hurdles except the calculation of surface rights. It's been 2 fucking years since we applied. The mine could be operational by now if it had been expedited as promised.

 

[Xerof]

Just letting you know I’m thinking of you tucked away in your convent (or is that really your opium den) X



I’m afraid the old Chinese molasses has finally got the better of me. Too much burning of the midnight oil.

Anyway, the point being I can’t work out if this new Inspector General of Mines has been brought in to overrule the Inspector General of Finance or help us

Perhaps the voice that responds to your evening prayers can answer this question

I'll ask

 

[The Fox]

Fox/anyone know when this decision on MMSC needs to be decided

Fox/anyone know when this decision on MMSC needs to be decided?

Should be next week. Also I stuffed up on the spelling, it’s MMCS not MMSC. My bad.

 

[David Krappenschitz]

Not to harp on about the troll ‘Fizz’, but another tweet earlier today calling the president an idiot. No doubt he’s seen comments on this thread and began with the insults.


Jens clearly concerned wanting to have a word:


Reporting them and calling them out as a troll on Twitter could be helpful.

Below - a thread on Twitter a couple weeks ago with Congolese businessmen (Franck and Yves) basically saying leave it to the AVZ reps, as comments/insults not helping.

 

[Strongman]

Should be next week. Also I stuffed up on the spelling, it’s MMCS not MMSC. My bad.

I reckon this decision is critical for us . As far as i am aware we satisfied all conditions of PE and were at the point of being issued the licence subject to calculation of surface rights but there was one issue left unresolved that being the 10 % to be ceded to DRC . So now we have the whole of PR 13359 back with Dathcom and ready for conversion to PE but still with the 10 % issue
Currently : AVZ 60 % undisputed
AVZ 15% subject to dathomir claim
AVZ 15 % FROR subject to Zijin bullshit claim
MMCS 5% gifted via MoP and Com
Com 5%
So we have Com and MMCS being given 90 days by ICC to resolve the 5 % issue. Problem is they were in collusion together in the first place so fuck knows how this works out.
What the fuck was CCk Mop etc etc thinking when this deal was done ??? Absolute bunch of corrupt muppet fucksticks

 

[wombat74]

Should be next week. Also I stuffed up on the spelling, it’s MMCS not MMSC. My bad.

Is it made public ? I thought the result was confidential .

 

[Xerof]

Is it made public ? I thought the result was confidential .

The guys in DRC will be all over it, Franck, Kiki etc, in due course. If not, some of our people with lines of communication will find out

If COMINIERE get this back, which IMO, they will, this will unlock the stalemate over issuance of the ML as there will be 10% to cede to the State

Back to singing and prayers, fuck it's boring