AVZ Discussion 2022

Xerof

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Aug/Sept ? ICSID in full swing ? Delayed?

I guess the Jurisdiction issue needs to be put to bed (in our favour) before the case can commence. There is no apparent indication of any delay at this stage, but (other than them trying to have the whole thing thrown out), it's another delay tactic for sure.

From a reputational perspective, DRC will be under immense pressure to get something done prior to the case commencing, but perhaps their hides are thick enough to bear the ICSID revelations, and the outline published above by @Strongman is how it will play out
 
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Xerof

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BEISHA

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Jen’s calling for peace again
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Can we please heed Jens call here !..........i dont know Jens from a bar of soap but i am getting feed into my PM from different sources asking for the same.

Situations are brewing, need to give ourselves the best chance possible of getting a good result if you get my drift.

Its not that hard.......just


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Frank

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DRC-Rwanda: The United States sets conditions for Kinshasa and Kigali before signing any mining agreement

The US spokesman, Mr. Boulos, asserts that before signing any mining agreement announced between the DRC and Rwanda, Kigali must withdraw its troops from Congolese soil.


The United States is not stopping there.

The Trump administration, through the US spokesman, is also calling on the Kagame regime to stop supporting the M23 rebels.

On the Congolese side, the US spokesman states on his X account that the DRC must, in turn, address Rwanda's security concerns regarding the FDLR.

This mining contract provides for the exploitation of mineral resources in the Democratic Republic of Congo in exchange for securing the eastern part of the country, as well as a massive investment in infrastructure, reportedly estimated at nearly US$500 billion over a 15-year period.

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Jongo

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Aug/Sep is sooner than my previous guess and I am ecstatic to finally have a possible target date. But while I am usely impulsive, this time I will not rush out and buy that Porsche in advance.

Back in 2022 I planned to start selling down my AVZ position, and sold 10% at $1.30 and used the proceeds to buy a Mercedes GLS AMG model just few weeks before the AVZ suspension. But it was too late to cancel my Mercedes order without losing my $25k deposit.

After selling the first 10% in early 2022, I was planning to sell much more that year as part of my SMSF tax strategy ... but then disaster struck.
 
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Samus

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Hi All

Can we please heed Jens call here !..........i dont know Jens from a bar of soap but i am getting feed into my PM from different sources asking for the same.

Situations are brewing, need to give ourselves the best chance possible of getting a good result if you get my drift.

Its not that hard.......just


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No way. Ya absolutely delusional if you think being homely and nice will make any difference.

Grow up man
 
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LOCKY82

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If you're gonna say anything on socials it should be facts about how we've been screwed nothing wrong with that, tue insults does fuck all! Insult them at home and to your friends and family like I do everyday
 
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Frank

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U.S. Pushes Congo and Rwanda to Sign Ukraine-Style Mineral Deals

Massad Boulos, President Donald Trump’s senior adviser for Africa policy, told Reuters on Thursday that the administration wants the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) and Rwanda to sign a peace treaty with each other — and then sign Ukraine-style minerals deals with the United States.

Boulos predicted a minerals deal with the DRC would be signed on the same day as the Congo-Rwanda peace accords, “and then a similar package, but of a different size, will be signed on that day with Rwanda.”

That day, according to Boulos, should come sometime in the next two months.

At a meeting in Washington last week, the DRC and Rwanda agreed to an ambitious timetable that included both of them submitting drafts of their half of the peace treaty on May 2.

Secretary of State Marco Rubio is scheduled to preside over another meeting in Washington to finalize the peace treaty by mid-May.

Rwanda’s side of the deal included a pledge to stop supporting M23 and other insurgent groups that have been rampaging through the eastern Congo.

The insurgents captured several key cities in the DRC at the beginning of the year, and when they marched through the gates of their captured towns, Rwandan troops marched right alongside them.

In return for Rwanda pulling out its troops and halting support for the insurgents, the DRC will promise to take Rwanda’s security concerns seriously, including action against a Rwandan insurgent group that operates in the Congo, the Democratic Forces for the Liberation of Rwanda (FDLR).

The FDLR is one of more than a hundred armed groups operating in the eastern Congo.

It is of particular concern to Rwanda because its members are mostly members of the Hutu tribe and they are determined to overthrow the government of Rwanda, which is largely controlled by the Tutsi tribe at present.

The Hutus attempted to exterminate the Tutsis in the 1994 Rwandan genocide.

Boulos said the bilateral mineral deals between the U.S. and the two African nations would have to be completed before the peace treaty could be signed. :unsure:

“The (agreement) with the DRC is at a much bigger scale, because it’s a much bigger country and it has much more resources, but Rwanda also has a lot of resources and capacities and potential in the area of mining as well … not just the upstream, but also midstream and downstream to processing and refining and trading,” he told Reuters.

After meeting in Doha, Qatar, on Thursday, delegations from the DRC and Rwanda said they were close to agreement on a draft of the peace treaty.

Boulos was not exaggerating when he said a U.S. minerals deal with the DRC would be much larger than a deal with Rwanda.

The DRC has trillions of dollars’ worth of untapped mineral resources, including precious metals, cobalt, copper, and lithium.

The unstable security situation in the eastern Congo is a major reason why these resources have not been tapped.


Investors will want to see the area pacified before they pour huge amounts of money into mining and refining projects.

M23 insurgents have reportedly seized control of major Congolese mines and shipped the pilfered minerals to Rwanda.

The United Nations was supposed to stabilize the region with a peacekeeping force called MONUSCO and, while it helped to push M23 back over a decade ago, it has been largely ineffective during the current crisis.

President Felix Tshisekedi asked MONUSCO to withdraw last year, but the peacekeepers are still there.

Seventeen of them have been killed so far this year during battles between M23 and Congolese government forces.

South Africa announced on Thursday that it has begun withdrawing its peacekeepers from rebel-held areas in the eastern Congo.

Malawi and Tanzania are also pulling their forces out, believing them to be trapped in hostile territory after M23 advanced and captured the city of Goma in January.

Hundreds of Congolese troops were also cut off by the rebel advance.

The International Committee of the Red Cross began escorting those soldiers and their families out of rebel territory on Wednesday.

President Tshisekedi raised the idea in March of giving the U.S. exclusive mineral rights in exchange for assistance against the M23 insurgency.

“Your election has ushered in the golden age for America. Our partnership would provide the U.S. with a strategic advantage by securing critical minerals such as cobalt, lithium, copper and tantalum from the Democratic Republic of Congo,” Tshisekedi told President Donald Trump in a letter.

Boulos, who has existing business interests in Africa, made a trip to the DRC soon after Tshisekedi sent his letter to begin hammering out the terms of a mineral deal.

www.breitbart.com/africa/2025/05/02/u-s-pushes-congo-rwanda-sign-ukraine-style-mineral-deals/


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From Grok....

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No way. Ya absolutely delusional if you think being homely and nice will make any difference.

Grow up man

Personally, I agree 100% with Jens. If the fat boy comes down under to Aussie land, I would like to give him a warm welcome and invite him over for a friendly family BBQ, to meet my favourite little friend, bbb&b ;).
1746334493142.png We could play hide & seek, he gets to hide and hold onto the ball, I close my eyes and count to 10 and see if I can find him, and if I can then I show him just how much I care.... :devilish: ps don't forget to bring your scrawny little mate with you.

Of course I'm joking, come on down, we will pop a shrimp on the barrrbie, :ninja: it will be great.
Yep, as of tomorrow, the start of the new week I will show 2 weeks of constraint, promise! now that I've scratched that itch. :giggle:
 
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Shire

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No way. Ya absolutely delusional if you think being homely and nice will make any difference.

Grow up man
Actually @Stockinvesting, delusional is thinking it’s a good idea to point out the corruption in the DRC and make inflammatory accusations publicly. Why would anyone want to do business in a country where corruption is being highlighted daily.

That aside, word on the street/grapevine is that the corruption posts on X are being discussed in Washington and it is taking precious time and effort away from progressing a deal.
 
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Frank

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Personally, I agree 100% with Jens. If a fat boy comes down under to Aussie land, I would like to give him a warm welcome and invite him over for a friendly family BBQ, to meet my favourite little friend, bbb&b ;).
View attachment 83690 We could play hide & seek, he gets to hide and hold onto the ball, I close my eyes and count to 10 and see if I can find him, and if I can then I show him just how much I care.... :devilish: ps don't forget to bring your scrawny little mate with you.

Of course I'm joking, come on down, we will pop a shrimp on the barrrbie, :ninja: it will be great.
Forget the BBQ Bro - What about a

Beef Wellington

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With a nice Mushroom Sauce of course 🍄 ;) 🍄
 
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Samus

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It isn't really our fault if those criminals are insulted by us pointing out what they've done.
They're thin skinned crooks and traitors of the DRC. Everyone should go and lay into the on X really and not let up until we get our money.
I've rarely seen an 'insult' there, only facts.
 
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Actually @Stockinvesting, delusional is thinking it’s a good idea to point out the corruption in the DRC and make inflammatory accusations publicly. Why would anyone want to do business in a country where corruption is being highlighted daily.

That aside, word on the street/grapevine is that the corruption posts on X are being discussed in Washington and it is taking precious time and effort away from progressing a deal.
I think that if the board who are in negotiations are relaying that the posts are not helpful, and an independent source (August) is saying it's not helpful, then it's probably best to listen. But obviously there are many shareholders who know better, cause in the past "nothing changed when we stopped". Never mind the budding DRC/USA security and minerals deal, or the reports about a potential buyout and "adequate compensation" to AVZ, the board who are in the negotiations don't know what's best for the company as well SHs on X.
Yes the corruption is disgusting and they are criminals, but if multiple sources are saying the posts are not helping then they're probably not helping.
 
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I think that if the board who are in negotiations are relaying that the posts are not helpful, and an independent source (August) is saying it's not helpful, then it's probably best to listen. But obviously there are many shareholders who know better, cause in the past "nothing changed when we stopped". Never mind the budding DRC/USA security and minerals deal, or the reports about a potential buyout and "adequate compensation" to AVZ, the board who are in the negotiations don't know what's best for the company as well SHs on X.
Yes the corruption is disgusting and they are criminals, but if multiple sources are saying the posts are not helping then they're probably not helping.
This!

Absolutely concur with this thinking.
 
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Hudnut

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Any existing motivations (greed, self-preservation, strategic access to minerals, fear, corruption) will far outweigh what we plebs put on the internet.
I also think Jens' sense of importance and connectedness is well overstated. He is wrong far more often than he is correct.

I don't post insults on X, but to think the US Government, DRC etc are going to change getting what they want because of a few insults from people they consider nobodies is fanciful. They don't respect us or GAF about our opinions.

Stopping insults can't hurt, but let's not pretend they care what we think.
 
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I think that if the board who are in negotiations are relaying that the posts are not helpful, and an independent source (August) is saying it's not helpful, then it's probably best to listen. But obviously there are many shareholders who know better, cause in the past "nothing changed when we stopped". Never mind the budding DRC/USA security and minerals deal, or the reports about a potential buyout and "adequate compensation" to AVZ, the board who are in the negotiations don't know what's best for the company as well SHs on X.
Yes the corruption is disgusting and they are criminals, but if multiple sources are saying the posts are not helping then they're probably not helping.
This you dumb cunts!!!!

Hah not really, I know you cunts aren't dumb. <3

But for fuck sake, read the room you not that dumb cunts!!!
 
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