AVZ Discussion 2022

Wingy

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The Loophole for the DRC is for Kobold to payout AVZ (appropriately Compensate ) and AVZ to drop legal proceedings . If any compensation comes from the North it will come from Zijin not the DRC . Kobold cannot get their hands on Roche Dure if AVZ are taking the DRC to the ICSID .If after many months the DRC are found guilty of screwing over AVZ ,then Kobold will either have to compensate AVZ or f--k off . Kobold already know this and have signed an MOU with AVZ .So come the 23rd we will either have a result or a suspension extension . IMO
Screw the extensions, this all started with extensions 3 years ago 😒
 
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cruiser51

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Revelation of the day...

The toilet responding to the Über driver:

As a AVZ S H, I am very confused what is really going down...????..


And I thought this has been abundantly clear for a decade.

Steve Harvey Laughing GIF by ABC Network
 
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wombat74

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Something about the first point here (1) feels very deliberate. That was put as the first point for a reason, the highest priority and the geopolitical trigger point to get this deal done?

'KoBold and AVZ are advance the peace process by having reached consensus as to a commercial framework enabling the rapid development of the Manono deposit.'

The phrase 'advancing the peace process' implies to me KoBold playing a diplomatic role, potentially being involved in the peace discussions with Rwanda. As much as this is politicised, let's be real, a lot of this conflict is related to resource extraction. Therefor, is it reasonable to assume our deal is wrapped up in the peace negotiation?


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I read it differently . Kobold is the new big dog in town . It's arrival on the scene demonstrates a confidence /support of a pathway to peace between DRC/Rwanda .

"Kobold and AVZ would be honoured to support the announcement of agreement concerning peace and security in any way ."

There is no order of events in these statements . IMO

The question remains . Does the Kobold /AVZ deal being finalized hinge on the peace deal ? I don't think it does . IMO
 
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Looks like HC has the same problem as TSE had......only worse.

Every thread looks like this

Yaseen ?
 
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Mute22

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I read it differently . Kobold is the new big dog in town . It's arrival on the scene demonstrates a confidence /support of a pathway to peace between DRC/Rwanda .

"Kobold and AVZ would be honoured to support the announcement of agreement concerning peace and security in any way ."

There is no order of events in these statements . IMO

You're probably right. I've been looking at the same information for far too long, starting to imagine things.

A new announcement to digest would be nice.
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TheCount

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Something about the first point here (1) feels very deliberate. That was put as the first point for a reason, the highest priority and the geopolitical trigger point to get this deal done?

'KoBold and AVZ are advance the peace process by having reached consensus as to a commercial framework enabling the rapid development of the Manono deposit.'

The phrase 'advancing the peace process' implies to me KoBold playing a diplomatic role, potentially being involved in the peace discussions with Rwanda. As much as this is politicised, let's be real, a lot of this conflict is related to resource extraction. Therefor, is it reasonable to assume our deal is wrapped up in the peace negotiation?


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And which Australian mining company on the ASX has activities already in Rwanda?

Jigsaw coming together……
 
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Joint Statement on Peace Talks between the Democratic Republic of the Congo and the Republic of Rwanda, Mediated by the United States and Observed by the State of Qatar​

MEDIA NOTE
OFFICE OF THE SPOKESPERSON
JUNE 18, 2025

The text of the following statement was released by the Governments of the United States of America, the Democratic Republic of the Congo, and the Republic of Rwanda on the occasion of peace talks held this week in Washington, D.C.

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On June 18, 2025, technical teams from the Democratic Republic of the Congo and the Republic of Rwanda initialed the text of the Peace Agreement, witnessed by U.S. Under Secretary for Political Affairs Allison Hooker, in preparation for the Ministerial signing of the Peace Agreement on June 27, 2025, to be witnessed by U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio.

Building on the Declaration of Principles signed on April 25, 2025, the Agreement was developed over three days of constructive dialogue regarding political, security, and economic interests. The Agreement includes provisions on respect for territorial integrity and a prohibition of hostilities; disengagement, disarmament, and conditional integration of non-state armed groups; establishment of a Joint Security Coordination Mechanism that incorporates the CONOPS of October 31, 2024; facilitation of the return of refugees and internally displaced persons, as well as humanitarian access; and a regional economic integration framework.

As part of the ongoing coordination between the facilitation efforts of the United States of America and the State of Qatar, the State of Qatar participated in these discussions to ensure complementarity and alignment between both countries’ initiatives aimed at dialogue and peace in the region. Both the DRC and Rwanda expressed their appreciation for the valuable contributions and joint efforts of the United States and Qatar as partners in advancing a peaceful resolution.

We look forward to the subsequent Summit of the Heads of State in Washington, D.C. to further advance peace, stability, and economic prosperity in the Great Lakes region.

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Uglybob

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I read it differently . Kobold is the new big dog in town . It's arrival on the scene demonstrates a confidence /support of a pathway to peace between DRC/Rwanda .

"Kobold and AVZ would be honoured to support the announcement of agreement concerning peace and security in any way ."

There is no order of events in these statements . IMO

The question remains . Does the Kobold /AVZ deal being finalized hinge on the peace deal ? I don't think it does . IMO

Kobold aren't the new big dog in town. They are nothing but a marketing experiment at this point, all bark, no bite. They have no runs on the board, no signature projects, just a bunch of rich backers. They want this project to make them the big dog in town. If they don't come out on top then they will look right foolish.
Kobold want you to think this is a one horse race and they are our saviours, but Tim will tell if this is the case, or just a lot of hot air.
 
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Qatar = $$$
 
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wombat74

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Kobold aren't the new big dog in town. They are nothing but a marketing experiment at this point, all bark, no bite. They have no runs on the board, no signature projects, just a bunch of rich backers. They want this project to make them the big dog in town. If they don't come out on top then they will look right foolish.
Kobold want you to think this is a one horse race and they are our saviours, but Tim will tell if this is the case, or just a lot of hot air.
AVZ have signed an MOU with Kobold and agreed to sell it's interest to them . Kobold were on site at Manono in August /Sept last year . This could not have happened without DRC permission . So I think they are a little more than a dog with no bite . IMO
 
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Azzler

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I'm with @Mute22 in that after all the BS we've been through, even though in my head I'm almost 100% sure this will happen soon enough, my heart refuses to believe anything good will come, but that's basically trauma response, and this has been traumatic as fuck.


I wonder if another key person will die in Germany before next Friday...

But if all goes ahead we will know by next Saturday and it should be a cheerful evening :)
Cheers to an end to this mess!
 
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Surely, we will have to get another ICC suspension announcement today or tomorrow.
 
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AVZ have signed an MOU with Kobold and agreed to sell it's interest to them . Kobold were on site at Manono in August /Sept last year . This could not have happened without DRC permission . So I think they are a little more than a dog with no bite . IMO
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Mute22

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I'm with @Mute22 in that after all the BS we've been through, even though in my head I'm almost 100% sure this will happen soon enough, my heart refuses to believe anything good will come, but that's basically trauma response, and this has been traumatic as fuck.


I wonder if another key person will die in Germany before next Friday...

But if all goes ahead we will know by next Saturday and it should be a cheerful evening :)
Cheers to an end to this mess!
Is the peace deal one and the same as the minerals for security deal? I thought they were two seperate things.

No mention of minerals here.
 
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