AVZ Discussion 2022

Spikerama

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Hard to disagree.

We definitely should have what we originally had, throw in the extra 15% would be a start along with MOP an Mupande gone, I'd be happy with that for a start and of course ML.

The fact nobody but Jules Alingete has spoken remotely supporting AVZ is a fucking travesty. But also telling that the most honest guy around is on our side per-say. If Felix isn't full of shit about his corruption policies then that's a big plus.
To be fair they have now shut up the green mumba spewing her lies. We are still treated to a BS news article every now and again.
I tell you what though. Fucking Klaus better have an extremely high security detail wherever he goes in the world from now on, because he now has a multi million dollar target on his forehead for being instrumental in this shit.
 
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TDITD

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Yep ...he doesn't come off looking like an amateur.......

He comes off looking like a fucking "on the take", corrupt, Chinese arse licking, I'll take all the money, fuck the law, fuck the govt, I'll stay in the job even though it's not my job and someone else was appointed years ago, the IGF can fuck themselves, absolutely corrupted cunt

So yeah ....

Not an amateur....

Geezuz fucking Christ.....

Let's not canonise the fucking arsehole
Pineapplise is ok though yes ?




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Because the cat is in on it
Career criminal of some 20 years. King of the criminals.
Since he's already sacked he must depend heavily on the snacks.
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Just look at those evil snake eyes and his criminal buddy who got busted doing shifty business for the President. Hmm :unsure:
Yep ...he doesn't come off looking like an amateur.......

He comes off looking like a fucking "on the take", corrupt, Chinese arse licking, I'll take all the money, fuck the law, fuck the govt, I'll stay in the job even though it's not my job and someone else was appointed years ago, the IGF can fuck themselves, absolutely corrupted cunt

So yeah ....

Not an amateur....

Geezuz fucking Christ.....

Let's not canonise the fucking arsehole
All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate.

I don't blame Felix for having some doubts as to whether AVZ management are the right people to deliver the crown jewel in his battery empire if they aren't able to understand the law properly and are gullible enough to fall for Mupande's tricks.

But the law is on our side and Felix needs this deposit online asap. Soon everything the light touches will be our kingdom. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is imo
 
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Winenut

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All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate.

I don't blame Felix for having some doubts as to whether AVZ management are the right people to deliver the crown jewel in his battery empire if they aren't able to understand the law properly and are gullible enough to fall for Mupande's tricks.

But the law is on our side and Felix needs this deposit online asap. Soon everything the light touches will be our kingdom. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is imo
"All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate."

Where's the evidence AVZ agreed to the partitioning of PR 13359?
 
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Winenut

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"All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate."

Where's the evidence AVZ agreed to the partitioning of PR 13359?
Why laugh at that?

Genuine question
 
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I can't remember who posted it or where it was said (I think at a roadshow) but allegedly Nigel said that CAMI told AVZ that the request for the partition came from Felix. But when Nigel met with Felix he told him that wasn't true and he never requested the tenement be split.

Obviously AVZ management agreed to partition the tenement somewhere between the end of the favourable opinions process and the issuing of the ministerial decree. They were more than happy to announce the north would be renewed under a PR on May 4th 2022 and trade for 3 days after.

Clearly this was a scheme cooked up by Mupande and Klaus to flip the north to Zijin. Call it what you want on AVZ management's behalf but this was the moment all of our troubles finalising the licence began. Considering this is not the norm in the mining code I would have requested written proof from Felix before agreeing to anything that jackal Mupande proposed.

From the AGM:

Issue that a portion of mines directorate said we hadn’t done the work on the northern tenement area, and shouldn’t get the north?

A: That’s not within the mining code. So 13359 should be retained in its entirety – however the northern area may need to come under a separate exploration tenement, even though that’s not the established process. – We know who’s behind this (e.g. DG CAMI)

What about AJN having a crack

A: “their premise is that we’ve returned the northern tenement to government. We haven’t. Draw a conclusion out of that”

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"All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate."

Where's the evidence AVZ agreed to the partitioning of PR 13359?
Why laugh at that?

Genuine question
Sorry I only laughed because I felt I had already answered this in my earlier post which I have attached to this post as well

All good if you don't agree with my reasoning but I'm not really sure how else the tenement would have got split without AVZ management's approval

This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo
 
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Winenut

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Sorry I only laughed because I felt I had already answered this in my earlier post which I have attached to this post as well

All good if you don't agree with my reasoning but I'm not really sure how else the tenement would have got split without AVZ management's approval

This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo

"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo"

Yep..

Knew that one

Almost paraphrased one of my posts either here or on the crapper!.........almost........

Spooky....

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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
 
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"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo"

Yep..

Knew that one

Almost paraphrased one of my posts either here or on the crapper!.........almost........

Spooky....

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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
I've been singing the shanty for a while now. Apologies if you got the wrong idea. Like I've said repeatedly here I back Nigel and the bod but will always call out what I think they have done wrong. AVZ management not getting confirmation that Felix wanted the tenement partitioned is the original sin of suspension. I trust they will make sure they correct the mistake they agreed to by trusting Mupande over the mining code.
 
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pow4ade

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"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

When I say they agreed to it I mean that they have actively participated in the decision while being given false information

So they were both hoodwinked and agreed to it in my eyes. But they should have done more to ascertain whether what Mupande said about Felix wanting the tenement partitioned was true or not imo"

Yep..

Knew that one

Almost paraphrased one of my posts either here or on the crapper!.........almost........

Spooky....

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:ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:
"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

The failure to verify what was ostensibly hearsay from Mupande is astonishing. Surely this was a red flag to our lawyers in a country as corrupt as the DRC. And what of the Board, were they appraised of these negotiations yet also failed to spot this glaring anomoly? :confused:
 
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Samus

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"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

The failure to verify what was ostensibly hearsay from Mupande is astonishing. Surely this was a red flag to our lawyers in a country as corrupt as the DRC. And what of the Board, were they appraised of these negotiations yet also failed to spot this glaring anomoly? :confused:
Somewhat of a disconnect while they sit on their ass in Perth too afraid to spend time in the DRC?
Brings back memories of when they dropped the ball during covid and put us in this mess in the first place.
 
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Winenut

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"This would have been negotiated with them and they gave it the go ahead off the basis that it was requested by Felix

The failure to verify what was ostensibly hearsay from Mupande is astonishing. Surely this was a red flag to our lawyers in a country as corrupt as the DRC. And what of the Board, were they appraised of these negotiations yet also failed to spot this glaring anomoly? :confused:

"The failure to verify what was ostensibly hearsay from Mupande is astonishing"

Yep ...I said that before either here or on the crapper....
 
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Winenut

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Sorry

Just for fun

This is how I'm going so far on the shithouse crapper..

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Geez.....

An insane, totally irrelavent, completely BS post referencing a bunch of other dudes throwing out weird descriptors...

And I get votes????

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Xerof

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Sorry

Just for fun

This is how I'm going so far on the shithouse crapper..

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Geez.....

An insane, totaly irrelavent, comletely BS post referencing a bunch of other dudes throwing out weird descriptors...

And I get votes????

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Just landed in Dubai and saw your magnificent post on the crapper. I even gave you a fucking lightbulb 💡 as well as 👍 hope it’s appreciated, it was after a fucking 17 hour flight

Kunt
Arsehole

Back home in 32 days time, Sort this shit out prior please. I’ll accept $10 minimum, $12 from those Z cunts, cash

Ps, business class, so not so bad💋💋
 
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DiscoDanNZ

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There is always the next one . Never go random . Build a watch list and watch . The trend is your friend . One great stock leads to another .

But Where's the fun in that? You speak of reasoning and sensibility, I want none of that. Risk it all on black at the ASX Casino :ROFLMAO:
 
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John25

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For clarity….AVZ will not be taken over. They may sell their part of the project for a price that is acceptable to shareholders one day….. but AVZ will continue to exist on the ASX and go in search of new opportunities if that happens.

Once ML issued and 10Mtpa numbers announced, I’m sure they will be fielding many offers.

Nige gave a hint at the Melb Preso of the project value. His words were that if the DRC took the project away, then they would seek US$10billiin in damages through a case in the ICC.

You can work out your own SP from that😉😉
Yep …good ol Nige gave a hint also at Perth RS either …ML 15th or 17/11 …Forgot the exact date …its that long ago now 🤔😐
 
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Yep …good ol Nige gave a hint also at Perth RS either …ML 15th or 17/11 …Forgot the rxact date …its that long ago now 🤔😐

We will find out today or tomorrow. Reshuffle due.
The green witch has been rather quiet lately, sitting on the third row whilst Jules Alingete and Modeste Bahati Lukwebo all taking front row seats.

Alingete tried to take down the green witch in April 2022 without any success, hopefully this time justice will be served.

The pipe of peace all smoked! Adèle Kayinda's correspondence follows an apology presented by the IGF Jules Alingete correcting his disconcerting remarks vis-à-vis the minister of the portfolio. “I have attributions which are recognized to me. I have the nobility...” Follow.

 
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obe wan

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Did management agree to partition or were they hoodwinked?

Where is it documented AVZ management agreed to the partitioning of PR 13359?

Or did CAMI/Mupande do a job on AVZ????

Genuine question
More of a hood winking / partitioning blend is my belief.

Mupande telling AVZ that north and south were being split and issued into Exploitation and Exploration ; AVZ agreeing to this to get shit moving …Mupande reckoned however, he meant north would be reissued as an application for Exploration and AVZ were welcome to reapply…. AJN had already jammed their application through the letterbox faster than one could imagine ….already a preloaded tacked by Klaus and Mupande…AVZ didn’t know, they had been involved in a game of charades ; at that point the handbrake was pulled and trading was suspended and AVZ decided a game of ‘that’s bullshite and here is the mining code’ was next , I assume Mupandes lame angle in this game was , AVZ had already agreed to a variation of the mining code by accepting a spilt …. but they just weren’t listening when Mupande was saying and coughing into his hand at the same time ; ‘open application’.

would appear that limo, the application was likely being dragged out until AJN got itself organised and positioned with the AJN/Congo resources vessel (late April) ; once they were JV’d and positioned ( late April ) CAMI issued approval for signing of decree (Early May) ; AJN likely had their application filled out and just waiting to be sent before their Congo resources JV was completed.

MoP was the the conduit for getting this whole JV across the line ; remember reading an article on the Congo resources arrangement where she said something along the lines -’ AJN were considered by many to be fraudsters , but I carried out my own due diligence 🙄 and considered then fine’

MoP and a crooked version of Mining code is the reason as to where we are.

Where's this reshuffle?...apparently this Friday at the latest they reckoned..... It's already pretty tight on DRC time
 
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obe wan

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Basically what I've been saying as well . If Felix doesn't act then it's Plan B . We don't have until the end of the year .I was told the decision on the ML is close . Not the ML , but a 'Decision' on the ML . Now I would say if the necessary changes are not made within the DRC gov in the very near future then that in of itself is a Decision not to award the ML .
@wombat74 was this decision on ML a decision on the ML as a whole I.e. a grant or total refusal or a decision on the ML as in what it was composed off ? I.e or what’s Carres were to be included … 138 carres for south under ML and balance on northern under Exploration licence / all in north and south / just north . My belief is that AVZ would get a ML ; question just being what was in it
 
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Frank

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At the Martyrs stadium, Pope Francis launches to young people:
“Reject corruption!


The future of the country is in your hands, said François to the young Congolese and catechists gathered Thursday, February 2 in the Martyrs of Pentecost stadium in Kinshasa, before offering them five ingredients, like the five fingers of the hand, to build the future of the DRC.

“You are a unique, incomparable and incomparable wealth. No one in history can replace you,” Francis first told the more than 65,000 young people and catechists gathered in a stadium that first honored the Holy Father with festive songs and dances.

“You can shake your hand and close it, it becomes a fist: or you can open it and make it available to God and others,” Francis told the crowd, accompanying his remarks with a demonstration by gesture. make the choice of Abel or that of Cain.

For the future to be born in the hands of young people, the Sovereign Pontiff has distilled five ingredients for them, like the five fingers of the hand.

In the DRC, 60% of the population is under 20 years old.

Thumb for prayer

The thumb is the finger closest to the heart, it “corresponds to the prayer that makes life throb”, developed François. Prayer is a fundamental ingredient, “it is like an uprooted tree: even if it is big and vigorous, it cannot stand on its own.”

Prayer is the water of the soul, "it is humble, we do not see it but it gives life."

But this prayer must be alive, specified the successor of Peter to the crowd of a country ravaged by wars: "do not turn to Jesus as if he were a distant and distant being of whom we are afraid, but rather the greatest friend who gave his life for you.

He knows you, he believes in you and loves you, always.”

Every day, Francis invited, we must raise our hands and bless God, “tell him about your neighborhood, your neighbors, your teachers, your companions, your friends and colleagues; of your country.

God loves this living, concrete prayer, made with the heart", he advised, before asking the young people and catechists a question: "Do you want to choose prayer as your secret, as the water of your soul, as the only weapon you have to carry with you, as your daily travel companion?”

With young Congolese, François urges to reject corruption

The future of the country is in your hands, said François to the young Congolese and catechists gathered Thursday, February 2 in the Martyrs of Pentecost stadium in Kinshasa, before offering them five ingredients, like the five fingers of the hand, to build the future of the DRC.

Middle finger for honesty :oops:

Next comes the central finger, which rises above the others, as if to remind us of an indispensable thing: honesty.

“It is the fundamental ingredient for a future that meets your expectations”.

The opposite of honesty is corruption, the Pope explained, as the DRC is one of the most corrupt countries in the world, ranking 166 out of 180 countries in Transparency International's Corruption Index.

"All together, we say 'no corruption'," Francis repeated to the crowd, prompting a cheer.

“I like this song, you are good,” he said with a smile, interrupting his speech to let the crowd cheer for several minutes.

There are many young Congolese who oppose the corruption that plagues their country, like the testimony told later by the Pope; that of Floribert Bwana Chui, killed fifteen years ago in Goma at the age of 26 for having blocked the passage of spoiled foodstuffs which would have damaged people's health.

“He could have let it happen, no one would have found out, and he would have won.

But, as a Christian, he prayed, thought of others and chose to be honest by saying no to the filth of corruption,” he said.

“That is keeping your hands clean while the hands that smuggle money are bloody.”

If someone hands out an envelope, "don't fall into the trap, don't let yourself be deceived, don't let yourself be swallowed up in the swamp of evil," Francis insisted, saying "no" with his index finger.

mediacongo


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Food for thought, plus a middle finger to Corruption 👆

Let us Pray to the AVZ / Lithium Gods 🙏

Frank ;)
 
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whales

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All AVZ management had to do was look Mupande in his evil snake eyes and say prove it that Felix wants the tenement split. Then Mupande wouldn't be able to bullshit now about not knowing the correct surface rights to calculate.

I don't blame Felix for having some doubts as to whether AVZ management are the right people to deliver the crown jewel in his battery empire if they aren't able to understand the law properly and are gullible enough to fall for Mupande's tricks.

But the law is on our side and Felix needs this deposit online asap. Soon everything the light touches will be our kingdom. Cause every once in a while, the lion has to show the jackals, who he is imo
The law on our side not when it involves Mupande ?DRC unable to remove him or reluctant to act on him .
What does that say about the Prime Minister and FT
More of a hood winking / partitioning blend is my belief.

Mupande telling AVZ that north and south were being split and issued into Exploitation and Exploration ; AVZ agreeing to this to get shit moving …Mupande reckoned however, he meant north would be reissued as an application for Exploration and AVZ were welcome to reapply…. AJN had already jammed their application through the letterbox faster than one could imagine ….already a preloaded tacked by Klaus and Mupande…AVZ didn’t know, they had been involved in a game of charades ; at that point the handbrake was pulled and trading was suspended and AVZ decided a game of ‘that’s bullshite and here is the mining code’ was next , I assume Mupandes lame angle in this game was , AVZ had already agreed to a variation of the mining code by accepting a spilt …. but they just weren’t listening when Mupande was saying and coughing into his hand at the same time ; ‘open application’.

would appear that limo, the application was likely being dragged out until AJN got itself organised and positioned with the AJN/Congo resources vessel (late April) ; once they were JV’d and positioned ( late April ) CAMI issued approval for signing of decree (Early May) ; AJN likely had their application filled out and just waiting to be sent before their Congo resources JV was completed.

MoP was the the conduit for getting this whole JV across the line ; remember reading an article on the Congo resources arrangement where she said something along the lines -’ AJN were considered by many to be fraudsters , but I carried out my own due diligence 🙄 and considered then fine’

MoP and a crooked version of Mining code is the reason as to where we are.

Where's this reshuffle?...apparently this Friday at the latest they reckoned..... It's already pretty tight on DRC time
Good Summation
But Mupande fraudulently said it was at the request of the President ?
Which apparently not true.?
So what is FT doing about it.?
Surely it is a crime to use the President name without his approval to do a deal.
Where is the IGF in all of this.?
 
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