AVZ Discussion 2022

[Carlos Danger]

What's the consensus, will Zijin admit defeat and back out of ICC proceedings today? Or do they push ahead with the hope of disrupting, draining and delaying $avz at all costs?

My bet is they continue to try and delay delay delay although not sure that's going to be possible anymore.

I expect that another left field slime bag delay tactic gets played.

Agree. Something will come up. Possibly far fetched and not believable but something will go against the norm.

1:35 am
Thursday, 5 October 2023 (GMT+2)
Time in Paris, France

I guess we will see in a few hours.

Whatever angle is left to them to waste more time they will do . Admitting defeat chews up the least amount of time . I'm still going with an 11 hour Covid outbreak .

The key arguments are already known by the court. The reason this shit takes so long is because all the hard work gets done before the hearing. It is not in Zijin's interest to try anything at this point. The arbitrator can and will rule in absentia. The only way this hearing doesn't proceed today is if Zijin tap out to save themselves being embarrassed. Otherwise nothing will save them imo

 

[antimatter]

Link to watch ICC live.

 

[j.l]

The key arguments are already known by the court. The reason this shit takes so long is because all the hard work gets done before the hearing. It is not in Zijin's interest to try anything at this point. The arbitrator can and will rule in absentia. The only way this hearing doesn't proceed today is if Zijin tap out to save themselves being embarrassed. Otherwise nothing will save them imo

@Carlos Danger , you are a machine.

 

[Xerof]

Link to watch ICC live.

This is the I Criminal C, not ICC

Maja had me excited for just a moment, I nearly bought popcorn and canceled Netflix

 

[geo_au]

It's almost a joke but actually fucking true

Tommy Richardson (esteemed author of biased bullshit at the AFR) was previously employed by the Motley Fool Australia

The notoriously upramping/downramping collectively biased bullshit stock advice (take your fucking money for stock tips) group based in Virginia in the US, founded by David Gardner and Tom Gardner, and Todd Etter and Erik Rydholm with a subsidiary in Australia

OMG!!!!!!!!


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So what journalistic integrity can you expect from this clown....cough....cough...."fool"....

Tom Richardson is no journalist he is indeed a fool. One has to wonder about the AFR employing crap like him. While I'm about it the AFR is more about sensational reporting than actual quality and people tend to swallow this crap newspaper line and sinker.

 

[aanti.dumb]

Link to watch ICC live.

Call me cynical, a pessimist, negative Nelly even, but im still expecting some BS reason for the proceedings to be further delayed by Zijin.

Car accident..
Sick dog..
Alien abduction..
Arrest for criminal activity..

I guess we will find out soon.

 

[wombat74]

The key arguments are already known by the court. The reason this shit takes so long is because all the hard work gets done before the hearing. It is not in Zijin's interest to try anything at this point. The arbitrator can and will rule in absentia. The only way this hearing doesn't proceed today is if Zijin tap out to save themselves being embarrassed. Otherwise nothing will save them imo
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Zijin didn't know . They were offered the 15% by Cominiere ."We are so Sorry ". F--k you Cominiere . You ried to us . Make us look like son of bitch . Now you must give us everything or we tell everyone about snacks and munchies .

 

[eqtrade]

Call me cynical, a pessimist, negative Nelly even, but im still expecting some BS reason for the proceedings to be further delayed by Zijin.

Car accident..
Sick dog..
Alien abduction..
Arrest for criminal activity..

I guess we will find out soon.

their whole legal team? nah...

 

[Carlos Danger]

Zijin didn't know . They were offered the 15% by Cominiere ."We are so Sorry ". F--k you Cominiere . You ried to us . Make us look like son of bitch . Now you must give us everything or we tell everyone about snacks and munchies .

100% their defence. And they would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for that audio file of them conspiring with CKK. That's why it is inconceivable to me that Zijin released it. It torpedoes their only viable argument at the ICC. There's only 1 party involved in this entire saga with the motivation and capability to make that tape public.

 

[JAG]

Tom Richardson is no journalist he is indeed a fool. One has to wonder about the AFR employing crap like him. While I'm about it the AFR is more about sensational reporting than actual quality and people tend to swallow this crap newspaper line and sinker.

Some quality reply’s to Tommy

 

[CHB]

Call me cynical, a pessimist, negative Nelly even, but im still expecting some BS reason for the proceedings to be further delayed by Zijin.

Car accident..
Sick dog..
Alien abduction..
Arrest for criminal activity..

I guess we will find out soon.

Same I'm expecting the same. Very surreal to finally have a court case happen.

 

[Mr Inappropriate]

Tom Richardson is no journalist he is indeed a fool. One has to wonder about the AFR employing crap like him. While I'm about it the AFR is more about sensational reporting than actual quality and people tend to swallow this crap newspaper line and sinker.

Newspapers the world over are struggling to adapt to changes in their business model. When you relentlessly cut costs to stay afloat journalism suffers and we end up with old mate T-bag spewing his half-truths (and careful omissions of fact).

 

[Carlos Danger]

Newspapers the world over are struggling to adapt to changes in their business model. When you relentlessly cut costs to stay afloat journalism suffers and we end up with old mate T-bag spewing his half-truths (and careful omissions of fact).

Newsrooms were fully funded when the majority of big name organisations became cheerleaders for the illegal invasion of Iraq. Journalists have always been idiots. Funding is no excuse.

 

[Xerof]

Not der Geist/sir Les/oil gas or Li

Going backwards, Izzy, klaus with one f, Jag briefly, axle, all following other variations of Linda which I have long forgotten. Is it school holidays in Oz

Report to X, not me, X

 

[Retrobyte]

That's the guy who was impersonating you Jag.

That account was also the fake Klaus for a while

 

[UtterMoron]

With this preliminary hearing will we get a preliminary verdict or preference to one side?

 

[Carlos Danger]

With this preliminary hearing will we get a preliminary verdict or preference to one side?

It's a preliminary question to determine the jurisdictional challenge by AVZ not a preliminary hearing per se. If AVZ win the jurisdictional challenge and it is established that Zijin have never been in Dathcom then part 2 that would deal with Zijin's claim that AVZ should recognise them in Dathcom would not proceed. Whoever wins this preliminary question is in the box seat for all the other cases imo

 

[Hodlandwin69]

It's a preliminary question to determine the jurisdictional challenge by AVZ not a preliminary hearing per se. If AVZ win the jurisdictional challenge and it is established that Zijin have never been in Dathcom then part 2 that would deal with Zijin's claim that AVZ should recognise them in Dathcom would not proceed. Whoever wins this preliminary question is in the box seat for all the other cases imo

I think they're asking when can we expect a verdict on this preliminary question. Are we to expect a verdict within these two days?

 

[Carlos Danger]

I think they're asking when can we expect a verdict on this preliminary question. Are we to expect a verdict within these two days?

I have no idea. Hopefully Zijin bitch out and drop their claim so we get the W tonight. My guess if not is the result will be known way before an official verdict is released through Franck Fwamba like the MMCS case was.

 

[Uglybob]

Newspapers the world over are struggling to adapt to changes in their business model. When you relentlessly cut costs to stay afloat journalism suffers and we end up with old mate T-bag spewing his half-truths (and careful omissions of fact).

You don't own/run newspaper to make money. There's much better things to invest in if you want more money.

Owning a media producer is all about controlling the narrative of what people think and who they will be voting for at the next election. You want the right guy running the country so your other investments remain profitable. That means taking a loss on the media company so your other investments continue to make huge profits.

Funnily enough, China is credited with starting the 'media' as once their empire became too large for news to travel by word of mouth in a timely manner they created documents that were sent out across the country to inform the people what the government were doing and why they were awesome. If you control the media, you control the narrative.

Does that sound like what we've seen unfold in front of us?