AVZ Discussion 2022

j.l

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The Australian Federal Police (AFP) can investigate crimes related to the Australian Securities Exchange (ASX), but their involvement typically focuses on serious criminal offenses such as corporate fraud, insider trading, market manipulation, and other financial crimes that may have a national or international dimension.

However, not all offenses related to the ASX fall under the AFP's jurisdiction. For example, routine breaches of securities laws or corporate governance issues are primarily handled by the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC). ASIC is the key regulatory body responsible for enforcing financial regulations and investigating misconduct in the securities and financial markets.

In some cases, the AFP and ASIC may work together, especially in complex investigations involving criminal activity like large-scale fraud or organized market manipulation.

Awesome, now even Australian authorities are against us!
 
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oxxa23

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Would kinda be disappointed with anything less a week after Locke funding news
 
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Nellie17

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We found you Leonard!
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Hudnut

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Awesome, now even Australian authorities are against us!

They've certainly never given us any assistance.
 
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Mr Clean

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Very concerned.

From the article it seems like they visited earlier in the week as well. Wild it’s the first time we hear of it. Always seems bad news for this company is delivered on Friday night in some form.

Just another footnote in the never ending saga of the AVZ epic.
 
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j.l

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And guess who happens to post it on X...


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cruiser51

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Yeah, maybe somebody made a phone call.
From Beijing.
I was surprised CarrotDick didn't show up at the AGM, but sent their legal representative.

It was pretty obvious Zijin and cohorts would try another below the belt trick, after they found out AVZ got funding to carry on, just before the AGM.
Too much money and power involved for China to not try another trick.
AFP has to investigate a complaint.

The Chess game continues.
If they can't win the ICC or ICSID case, how about getting the AFP involved.
Don't forget Australia can sell Rock Lobsters into China again.
 
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What is Nigel doing with his time, if not writing a quick explanation to shareholders about what this relates to and why the FEDERAL POLICE ARE IN OUR OFFICE!!! sorry but this is very disappointing. Who gives 2 shits who posts it. The feds don’t fuck about. What is our position and why? NIGEL??? TAP TAP????
 
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cruiser51

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I was surprised CarrotDick didn't show up at the AGM, but sent their legal representative.

It was pretty obvious Zijin and cohorts would try another below the belt trick, after they found out AVZ got funding to carry on, just before the AGM.
Too much money and power involved for China to not try another trick.
AFP has to investigate a complaint.

The Chess game continues.
If they can't win the ICC or ICSID case, how about getting the AFP involved.
Don't forget Australia can sell Rock Lobsters into China again.
Ever considered who Tommy the twat informed about the AFP raid?

I can guarantee you, it wasn't the AFP, so funny that Tommy shows who his connections are, but we have known that all the time anyhow.
Nothing new there.
 
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What is Nigel doing with his time, if not writing a quick explanation to shareholders about what this relates to and why the FEDERAL POLICE ARE IN OUR OFFICE!!! sorry but this is very disappointing. Who gives 2 shits who posts it. The feds don’t fuck about. What is our position and why? NIGEL??? TAP TAP????
Have you ever heard of SWATTING? Psychopaths do it to streamers, business enemies or innocent victims all the time. It's not hard to do anonymously.

You call in a bomb threat, threat to national security or worse and the feds are obligated to investigate. You don't think after everything we have seen from the Chinese, they wouldn't stoop this low to rattle people or threaten the BOD?
 
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wombat74

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Thought for the day: Nobody cares about your story until you win… so win & win BIG.;)
 
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Have you ever heard of SWATTING? Psychopaths do it to streamers, business enemies or innocent victims all the time. It's not hard to do anonymously.

You call in a bomb threat, threat to national security or worse and the feds are obligated to investigate. You don't think after everything we have seen from the Chinese, they wouldn't stoop this low to rattle people or threaten the BOD?
What is the threat that they are investigating?
 
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JasonM

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have to feel for the employees of avz, the shit that they have gone through, absolutely unbelievable. The worse part, the australian government just sits idly by and lets it happen.
 
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j.l

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Have you ever heard of SWATTING? Psychopaths do it to streamers, business enemies or innocent victims all the time. It's not hard to do anonymously.

You call in a bomb threat, threat to national security or worse and the feds are obligated to investigate. You don't think after everything we have seen from the Chinese, they wouldn't stoop this low to rattle people or threaten the BOD?

That would explain this bit: "“There is no current or impending threat to the community."
 

Jazz

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That would explain this bit: "“There is no current or impending threat to the community."
yeah that line really jumped out to me. Very curious wording for what I assume is intended to look like a white collar crime investigation.
 
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KLCC

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I swear someone who lives in Sydney (or wherever they film Q&A) should go on the show and if brave enough to be on TV, should ask the question on how the Australian Government is happy to sit by and watch 20,000 Aussies potentially lose their investment.

I am not that person (I would freeze and blubber my way through it) but there are some very eloquent and knowledgeable people here that could do it justice.
 
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RHyNO

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Have you ever heard of SWATTING? Psychopaths do it to streamers, business enemies or innocent victims all the time. It's not hard to do anonymously.

You call in a bomb threat, threat to national security or worse and the feds are obligated to investigate. You don't think after everything we have seen from the Chinese, they wouldn't stoop this low to rattle people or threaten the BOD?
Mate the federal police don’t raid offices because of an anonymous call. Sorry but I doubt the Chinese could call the feds and get them to raid us! On what grounds? But also if this is the case. Then why is Nigel not on the email explaining exactly this. Just seems to me with this BOD. They are overpaid and disrespectful to the fact that 20000 people have given them substantial amounts of money.
 
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Mute22

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Mate the federal police don’t raid offices because of an anonymous call. Sorry but I doubt the Chinese could call the feds and get them to raid us! On what grounds? But also if this is the case. Then why is Nigel not on the email explaining exactly this. Just seems to me with this BOD. They are overpaid and disrespectful to the fact that 20000 people have given them substantial amounts of money.
Incorrect, Federal police can and do raid offices based on a substantial but unproven claims.

Obviously I don't know the justification provided, but a clever person could provide a story or falsify evidence to police, even stating that they received an 'anonymous tipoff' or anything in-between to trigger this. Our constant failing is a lack of imagination within this game.

If I was in the BOD position, I would have been doing absolutely everything above board for the last 3 years given the scrutiny of shareholders, governments, ASIC, enemies ect.. My point being, in my opinion, it's more likely this has been triggered by malicious actors rather than illegal activity by the BOD.

And to those of you who are saying 'Why haven't management responded yet?' - I am sure this, like many things over the past 2 years has blindsided them. Again underestimating how low our enemies will go. I imagine they are seeking legal advice, making their own enquiries and cooperating with police before providing any official response.
 
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Mute22

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Incorrect, Federal police can and do raid offices based on a substantial but unproven claims.

Obviously I don't know the justification provided, but a clever person could provide a story or falsify evidence to police, even stating that they received an 'anonymous tipoff' or anything in-between to trigger this. Our constant failing is a lack of imagination within this game.

If I was in the BOD position, I would have been doing absolutely everything above board for the last 3 years given the scrutiny of shareholders, governments, ASIC, enemies ect.. My point being, in my opinion, it's more likely this has been triggered by malicious actors rather than illegal activity by the BOD.

And to those of you who are saying 'Why haven't management responded yet?' - I am sure this, like many things over the past 2 years has blindsided them. Again underestimating how low our enemies will go. I imagine they are seeking legal advice, making their own enquiries and cooperating with police before providing any official response.
Not to get too dark, but there isn't much lower they can go from here. I don't think we are too far away from the threats on the BOD lives becoming reality.

Don't forget AVZ is part of a trillion dollar energy future being battled out between China and the West. Governments on both sides have done far worse things with much less at stake.

Without divulging too much about myself, I can let you all know we 100% have a fifth column in this country who could potentially carry out this order. All my opinion only.
 
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