AVZ Discussion 2022

TLH

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AVZ continually have to fight the offensive and defensive and simply can’t afford to drop their guard. What a weak blind sided government we have.
The enemy no doubt are sitting back thinking well played regardless of how this plays out.
Come on Nigel time to get some big boys on board as shots are being fired in all directions.
Even happy with the Texans you mentioned if they are loaded so we can put up a real fight.
Can’t wait until everyone of these evil fuckers are exposed.
 
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ptlas

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If the price is right...

I think the end game is that everyone walks away a winner and a loser. with exception to the consortium.

AVZ and shareholders: We get paid out (wouldn't blink for anything less than $2.30) but have had to endure this bs for two years+ and get a fraction of total worth (easily $12+).
DRC: Unfortunately probably walk away the biggest winners as all of this gets swept under the carpet but upset their Chinese overlords. Think they will find other opportunities for their masters...
Chinese: Save face as much as they can but walk away like rabid dogs with tails between their legs. they'd be thinking that at least they get to live another day.
Consortium: Happy days as they walk away with the steal of the century. Middle East enters the critical mineral game and I'd suspect they will want to position themselves as the balancing/price setters of the critical mineral sector. Could work as they'd just play off East Vs West dynamics - plenty of arbitrage opportunities.
So your house is worth $1.2 million and you endure bs for 2 years that stops you from selling.
But at the end you'll take $230k and "walk away a winner".

Two questions:
1. Are you aware that you are talking the price down. The asking price for your $1.2 m house is $230k,?
2. How much do you think that you'll get?
Clue: $230k, MAXIMUM because peeps know how desperate you are.

Have these conversations in private until there's an offer on the table.

Let me know when you're selling your house.
 
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So your house is worth $1.2 million and you endure bs for 2 years that stops you from selling.
But at the end you'll take $230k and "walk away a winner".

Two questions:
1. Are you aware that you are talking the price down. The asking price for your $1.2 m house is $230k,?
2. How much do you think that you'll get?
Clue: $230k, MAXIMUM because peeps know how desperate you are.

Have these conversations in private until there's an offer on the table.

Let me know when you're selling your house.
End of day it's worth what the highest bidder is willing to pay. Yeah, maybe there is a sense of "talking my price down" but also I think it's trying to stay reasonable given the circumstances the house is facing.

I'd cream my pants if I can get 1.2 million for my house that is blacklisted and condemned by the local council/government.

edit: but yes I'll keep it on the downlow and in private.
 
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ptlas

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End of day it's worth what the highest bidder is willing to pay. Yeah, maybe there is a sense of "talking my price down" but also I think it's trying to stay reasonable given the circumstances the house is facing.

I'd cream my pants if I can get 1.2 million for my house that is blacklisted and condemned by the local council/government.

edit: but yes I'll keep it on the downlow and in private.
The house is not condemned by anybody.
It is recognised by all as extremely valuable.
That is why criminals are disputing the ownership.
If you win that argument, there is no reason to sell it cheap.
 
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The house is not condemned by anybody.
It is recognised by all as extremely valuable.
That is why criminals are disputing the ownership.
If you win that argument, there is no reason to sell it cheap.
no reason to sell it cheap.
That all depends if there are buyers?
Who would buy if the laws are corrupt and titles are not respected under the law.
 
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Jazz

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Absolute nonsense. Malicious actors triggering the federal police to not investigate but raid offices??? I appreciate your comments and opinions but that is absolutely untrue. Do you realise the shit a “malicious actor” would be in if it was proven they intentionally mislead federal police? Otherwise why wouldn’t you just call the feds on your competitors business every week and have their offices raided. There has been a substantial investigation and the federal police have concluded that they are raiding our offices. This is an absolutely massive occurrence. Fortunately as @scoota points out the DLA piper comms are the only way forwards so an announcement in the coming week should be expected. But this dream that a Chinese owned company has manipulated Australian federal police to invesrigate a small cap miner in an effort to discredit them. Wishful thinking. That would be a geopolitical shitstorm
I’m finding it really curious that you are so quick to get stuck in to The BOD on this, and to dismiss the concept that AVZ’s detractors have something to do with this, in any form.
 
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RHyNO

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I’m finding it really curious that you are so quick to get stuck in to The BOD on this, and to dismiss the concept that AVZ’s detractors have something to do with this, in any form.
I’m finding it curious that everyone is super keen to present this as a non issue Im not a troll, im a long term investor and im curious as to why our offices have been raided with 0 comms from our management. Scoota has cleared this up. Every time anyone comes here with any criticism this boring ass response of “you must be working for the enemy” comes up. AFP raids. Oh the AFP are on the payroll. AFR writes an article exposing our managements failings. Oh Tommy is a turd eater. It’s a fucking chat site. We are suspended from trade and our offices just got raided by the AFP. Forgive me if I’m critical of the only people responsible for managing our company.
 
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I’m finding it curious that everyone is super keen to present this as a non issue Im not a troll, im a long term investor and im curious as to why our offices have been raided with 0 comms from our management. Scoota has cleared this up. Every time anyone comes here with any criticism this boring ass response of “you must be working for the enemy” comes up. AFP raids. Oh the AFP are on the payroll. AFR writes an article exposing our managements failings. Oh Tommy is a turd eater. It’s a fucking chat site. We are suspended from trade and our offices just got raided by the AFP. Forgive me if I’m critical of the only people responsible for managing our company.
And yet no one here knows, yet you keep asking like trying to instigate and agitate holders who don't bloody know!
Go ask AVZ or something ffs.
 
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RHyNO

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And yet no one here knows, yet you keep asking like trying to instigate and agitate holders who don't bloody know!
Go ask AVZ or something ffs.
Sorry if it agitates you mate. I thought someone might have some actual insight. Not an unreasonable assumption. Perhaps someone with some experience with AFP raids. Certainly clarified for me the reason there has not been an announcement. $5.60
 
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ptlas

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no reason to sell it cheap.
That all depends if there are buyers?
Who would buy if the laws are corrupt and titles are not respected under the law.
If titles are never respected, then there will be no buyers and we won't be selling it. Cheap or otherwise.

If Manono is proven to belong to AVZ, then there will be no shortage of buyers.
Market forces will ensure that the price is not cheap.

I really don't understand why so many people think we will sell an asset if we don't own it.
Either:

We don't own the asset and therefore will never sell it.

Or we do own it, and will get a good price.

It goes back to the house analogy.

All or nothing
 
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Hudnut

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I’m finding it curious that everyone is super keen to present this as a non issue Im not a troll,

Yeah, but even trolls take their medication for bipolar.
You flip from reasonably ok to ranting and back again often and rapidly.

It's pretty obvious we aren't going to get any comms from the BOD only a day or so after the event occurred, yet here you are ranting again already. Just because the office was raided doesn't mean the BOD even knows why yet.
Just settle the fuck down.

If the BOD updated us immediately every time a new piece of shitfuckery happened, they'd never get anything else done.

Immediate tactical actions are find out what the Feds were after, and why.
Then work with our legal team to deal with it and get advice on how/if/when to do comms based on that information.

Then keep focused on the longer term strategic actions at ICC and ICSID.
There is a costed and budgeted plan in place for that.
 
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Brah, it is million in the short overview, not billion.
 

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Brah, it is million in the short overview, not billion.
Argh fuck, I'm wrong again.

Thanks for pointing out my error.

I will delete it and go do something else. I just can't get it right, no matter what.
 
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Meanwhile, demand for lithium ain't going away. Everyone is still going to need it ...


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December 06, 2024


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Sulfur is abundant and Zeta's Li-S batteries use waste materials like methane and unrefined sulfur from various industries. They also ditch expensive, hard-to-source materials like cobalt, graphite, manganese or nickel; which Li-ion is also made from. Zeta's approach can utilize locally sourced materials and use existing factories to assemble its batteries, slashing CO2 emissions compared to existing battery tech.
 
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tonster66

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“On or about 24 December 2021, the Criminal Court in Lubambashi handed down a judgement, with Dathcom and Mr Johnston in absentia,to the effect that:•the new share certificate along with the new shareholders’ register bothidentifying AVZI as a 75% shareholder of Dathcom wereforgeries;•Mr Graeme Johnston (as the managing director of Dathcom) as well as the registrar of the RCCMwere complicit in that forgery;•Mr Graeme Johnston was sentenced to threeyears in prison; •Dathcomwas ordered to pay damages ofUS$50,000,000; and•the updated share certificatealong with the new shareholders’ register issued by the RCCM be destroyed.”
We know that this is all rubbish but why didn’t AVZ notify shareholders of this?
Graham then in January, less than a month later sells approx $ 800k of shares. I think that needs to be investigated.
I am a long term holder with a lot invested and this really pissed me off.
Pure speculation on my part, but they will try anything. If they can get rid of AVZ than manono is up for grabs.
Just my thoughts
 
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Funnily enough if you split the 2.5b - 10b (I assumed this was USD) down the middle you end up with 6.25b...... @Carlos Danger
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Jazz

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“On or about 24 December 2021, the Criminal Court in Lubambashi handed down a judgement, with Dathcom and Mr Johnston in absentia,to the effect that:•the new share certificate along with the new shareholders’ register bothidentifying AVZI as a 75% shareholder of Dathcom wereforgeries;•Mr Graeme Johnston (as the managing director of Dathcom) as well as the registrar of the RCCMwere complicit in that forgery;•Mr Graeme Johnston was sentenced to threeyears in prison; •Dathcomwas ordered to pay damages ofUS$50,000,000; and•the updated share certificatealong with the new shareholders’ register issued by the RCCM be destroyed.”
We know that this is all rubbish but why didn’t AVZ notify shareholders of this?
Graham then in January, less than a month later sells approx $ 800k of shares. I think that needs to be investigated.
I am a long term holder with a lot invested and this really pissed me off.
Pure speculation on my part, but they will try anything. If they can get rid of AVZ than manono is up for grabs.
Just my thoughts
I can’t recall exactly, but wasn’t this a rebalancing of Grahams SMSF and another director bought the shares anyway?
 
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ptlas

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“On or about 24 December 2021, the Criminal Court in Lubambashi handed down a judgement, with Dathcom and Mr Johnston in absentia,to the effect that:•the new share certificate along with the new shareholders’ register bothidentifying AVZI as a 75% shareholder of Dathcom wereforgeries;•Mr Graeme Johnston (as the managing director of Dathcom) as well as the registrar of the RCCMwere complicit in that forgery;•Mr Graeme Johnston was sentenced to threeyears in prison; •Dathcomwas ordered to pay damages ofUS$50,000,000; and•the updated share certificatealong with the new shareholders’ register issued by the RCCM be destroyed.”
We know that this is all rubbish but why didn’t AVZ notify shareholders of this?
Graham then in January, less than a month later sells approx $ 800k of shares. I think that needs to be investigated.
I am a long term holder with a lot invested and this really pissed me off.
Pure speculation on my part, but they will try anything. If they can get rid of AVZ than manono is up for grabs.
Just my thoughts
I think that's a legitimate question.

I don't know if you're linking it to the AFP visits / raid, but personally feel that they would be likely to visit his home if that were the reason.
I'm sure some 'friend' would be on hand to report it
Maybe, we need to discuss the reasons when they are known because I strongly suspect, like others here, that our Chinese / DRC / Australian enemies are beind this.

We know that comments here will be taken out of context on other SM.

Regarding BoD commenting on this, I believe that there are all sorts of legal restrictions on any open comment.
For that reason, I would not be disappointed with little or no comment.
Though WTF do I know? I'm no lawyer.

After all, it won't affect the SP. 😝
 
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