AVZ Discussion 2022

Cumquat Cap

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I meant continuing legal action against a corrupt country in the DRC. Not sure continuing this will give us another chance.

Would never mention numbers but I know several larger holders (of which dominate the register) who would happily sell below this. I am no where near that and would be disappointed bur with several hundred grand in my bank account after this shit show, zero chance I’m holding settlement up for the chance to get back in the ring with the corrupt fuckwit DRC government.

Food for thought at least, suspect we will get less than that rough valuation but still enough to rotate into new an exciting investment opportunities.

Hopefully find out in the next week or two fingers crossed
 
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Fanciful? What’s fanciful is pretending a Tier-1 lithium asset with a granted mining licence, US backing, and global strategic relevance is worth anything less than $6–8B. That’s not hopium — that’s what the numbers say when you compare it to other deals, and Roche Dure leaves those in the dust in both scale and grade.

If an offer comes in well below that, then yes — shareholders have every right to pursue legal action. And it won’t be against a “bankrupt company” — it’ll be against directors, advisors, and anyone else who facilitated a sale that doesn’t reflect market value. Precedent exists for that.

No one’s saying we hold out for the moon — but lowballing this now under the guise of “realism” isn’t smart, it’s submission. Competitive pressure is exactly what gets us a real price. Settling for crumbs before that pressure plays out is how value gets stolen.
US$6 billion, or less than A$3 ps IS lowballing
 
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Winenut

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Agree mate, just curious perhaps you or someone else here might know this. To get the CGT discount, does the company have to relist? Or does Nigel have to shut AVZ down and return capital as you say? What are your and others thoughts on this process?

To get the CGT discount something will have to occur that triggers a CGT event in relation to our AVZ shares

There may be a number of ways the Nige can structure a transaction for this to occur

There's some reading here about the triggers for CGT events in relation to shares

https://www.ato.gov.au/individuals-...estments/when-cgt-applies-to-shares-and-units

In relation to the question as to whether AVZ would need to relist for you to ultimately have access to the CGT discount I would suggest the answer is "no"

CGT events can definitely occur in relation to shares and units that are not listed on the stock exchange

Hope that helps mate

Note: Happy for corrections etc if I have got any of this out of whack
 
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A bit of light reading . Surprise surprise the new Justice Minister is as rotten to the core as the rest of them .


They can't help themselves, it's in their DNA. All of them.
 
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Mute22

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There seem to be two distinct camps of holders in the current discussion:

1) Long-term holders – Often early entrants who now hold millions of shares. Many in this group are seeking a quick resolution, driven largely by lifestyle considerations.

2) High-risk newer investors – typically holding anywhere from tens of thousands to several hundred thousand shares. They’re more focused on achieving what they believe is fair value for their investment, even if it requires more patience.

The first group is increasingly pushing to lower expectations, suggesting we should accept whatever offer is on the table because “this is our only exit.” The second group sees this as premature, arguing that setting a low bar now is like entering a bidding war against ourselves before the race has even started.

Reading between the lines on our most recent announcement, removal of Kobolds interview etc. despite what the US media might say, AVZ is making it clear that this deal might be done in Kobold's mind, but nothing is set in stone yet, leaving us open to other bidders.

At the end of the day, neither group is likely to influence the final outcome. So, perhaps the best course of action is to relax and let the process be negotiated by the guy with a private island and jet plane on the line.
 
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Skar

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I meant continuing legal action against a corrupt country in the DRC. Not sure continuing this will give us another chance.

Would never mention numbers but I know several larger holders (of which dominate the register) who would happily sell below this. I am no where near that and would be disappointed bur with several hundred grand in my bank account after this shit show, zero chance I’m holding settlement up for the chance to get back in the ring with the corrupt fuckwit DRC government.

Food for thought at least, suspect we will get less than that rough valuation but still enough to rotate into new an exciting investment opportunities.

Hopefully find out in the next week or two fingers crossed
Previously our only market was China, despite everything we did to shop it around only China was willing to invest. China was willing to work with us (Cath) and steal from us (Zijin - enabled by DRC corruption). China just want the lithium as the project holds way more importance (and value) downstream for them. The US has now entered the critical mineral space (with EU/other G7 still talking about it but will soon enter as well). IF the peace deal goes through it drastically changes the operating conditions of the DRC (and Africa). Manono is a spec in the total size of African mineral wealth, weather its 5B, 10B, 20B of the value out of the hundreds of billions of value at Manono.... we are still talking trillions and trillions from Africa (so the peace deal will go ahead with/without AVZ). There will be other buyers if not now soon - western companies will not be able to flout ICSID like China can. The good news is US want this resource and seemingly understand its value - lets put that to the test.

Also those large retail holders are not in the same circumstances, I have a decent enough allocation of shares, a life changing amount... or we could get more value out of the project, instead of a quick exit and I could help out a few relatives too.
 
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Im a white Aussie you inbred coward snake. I dont negotiate with baby raping demons, so just get back on topic and stop derailing the fucking thread you jewball. This is the abt 5th time youve attempted to post the same off-topic trolling pic.

Nice selfie BTW


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Okay children you will all be sent to your room without dinner , please keep to the topic at the dinner table
 
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Pokok

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They could be sucking up to the wrong people. ;););););)
Dickie Knee blast from my past
 
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cruiser51

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With the new superannuation rules due as per 1 July, for people holding AVZ shares in their super accounts, it could well be handy if the funds are in your account pre that date.
I don't know if Africa moves that fast, normally the Omega watch has to be specially detuned for Africa.
 
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Funtimes1

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Fanciful? What’s fanciful is pretending a Tier-1 lithium asset with a granted mining licence, US backing, and global strategic relevance is worth anything less than $6–8B. That’s not hopium — that’s what the numbers say when you compare it to other deals, and Roche Dure leaves those in the dust in both scale and grade.

If an offer comes in well below that, then yes — shareholders have every right to pursue legal action. And it won’t be against a “bankrupt company” — it’ll be against directors, advisors, and anyone else who facilitated a sale that doesn’t reflect market value. Precedent exists for that.

No one’s saying we hold out for the moon — but lowballing this now under the guise of “realism” isn’t smart, it’s submission. Competitive pressure is exactly what gets us a real price. Settling for crumbs before that pressure plays out is how value gets stolen.
Just passing on .........someone posted in The Australian article on AVZ over the weekend , that BOD are well aware that SH expectations are above ATH and mentioned circa of 1.50 and being fully franked was his mail. Anything less and the BOD are aware it may trigger legal action against them.
 
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Fuck, any of the old crew still here, might change my name to “EMERGED”
 
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hedrox

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Just passing on .........someone posted in The Australian article on AVZ over the weekend , that BOD are well aware that SH expectations are above ATH and mentioned circa of 1.50 and being fully franked was his mail. Anything less and the BOD are aware it may trigger legal action against them.
Does anybody got this article from this weekend in The Australian? Who wrote it?
 

Panther22

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There was talk some time back of paying CGT (30%) in the DRC from any sale proceeds.
Is that still the case or wait and see?
 
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Funtimes1

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Does anybody got this article from this weekend in The Australian? Who wrote it?
The article by Brad Thompson , however its a shadow copy of other articles and nothing new. I was passing on comments to this article by a poster only. Bonsoir, grow the fuck up!
 
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Winenut

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There was talk some time back of paying CGT (30%) in the DRC from the from any sale proceeds.
Is that still the case or wait and see?

I think there is some hope that maybe the Nige can negotiate on that point with the DRC as part of the overall deal

Edit: May also depend on how the deal is "structured" whether it triggers in country taxes or not
 
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Does anybody got this article from this weekend in The Australian? Who wrote it?

Here tis:

AVZ moves step closer to great escape from the DRC​

A ceasefire in a legal fight has set the scene for AVZ Minerals and a US company backed by Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos to finalise the sale of a major DRC lithium project.

The disputed AVZ Minerals lithium project in the DRC

Perth-based AVZ Minerals and the Democratic Republic of Congo have suspended their bitter legal battle over a giant lithium project as the US closes in on a critical minerals pact with the troubled African nation.

The US pushed AVZ and the DRC to find common ground as part of its desire for the lithium prize to end up in the hands of an American company – and not in the clutches of Chinese interests.

The suspension of legal hostilities takes AVZ a big step closer to having its permits over the southern portion of the Manono Project returned so it can be on-sold to California-based KoBold, a company whose backers include Bill Gates and Jeff Bezos.

AVZ and the DRC’s state-owned mining company hit pause on legal action in the International Court of Arbitration of the International Chamber of Commerce until June 23 in a sign of goodwill, and will negotiate on the return of the Manono permit.

The prospect of a peace deal sometime in the next four weeks also suggests a timeline for a deal between AVZ and KoBold, who are in negotiations about the sale price.

The market valued AVZ as high as $4.6bn in 2022 amid a lithium boom and excitement around Manono that drew in more than 21,000 investors.

The company’s stocks tumbled and it was eventually de-listed and hit with disputed corruption allegations after losing control of the massive hard rock deposit that has been likened to the world-leading Greenbushes lithium mine in Western Australia.

Investors now appear well on track to receive some return based on the thaw in relations between AVZ and DRC officials, and lobbying that garnered US support for Nigel Ferguson-led AVZ.

The Australian first reported in March that the Trump administration was poised to insist control of the southern part of Manono be in a move that risked provoking a backlash from China.

The Trump administration and the DRC are now close to signing a critical minerals pact after DRC President Felix Tshisekedi sought US protection from Rwanda-backed M23 rebels that had overrun parts of his country.

The US State Department published a declaration of principles between DRC and Rwanda that provides a framework for peace, and AVZ and KoBold confirmed they were working a deal on Manono since The Australian’s exclusive report.

The United Nations estimates more than 71,000 people fleeing violence in the east of the DRC have crossed the border into Burundi since January.

The US wants AVZ and the DRC to drop any legal action before a sale, with the ceasefire in their arbitration case pointing to a breakthrough on that front. It appears Chinese mining heavyweight Zijin will be left alone to develop the northern half of Manono.

However, AVZ will have to talk with Chinese battery-maker CATL, which listed on the Hong Kong Stock Exchange last week, about the sale to KoBold. A CATL subsidiary owns part of AVZ and, through a deal revised in January, helped fund the legal fight with the DRC.

It was reported on March 30 that AVZ could on-sell the Manono project to KoBold for up to $US1.5bn.

However, the sale price remains unclear and complicated by geopolitics, further weakness in global lithium markets and the possibility the DRC could ignore any adverse ruling if the international arbitration case were to continue.
 
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Winenut

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Fuck, any of the old crew still here, might change my name to “EMERGED”
Few of us still here but yeah the emerged crew and the trolls certainly have come out of the woodwork in recent times

I wonder why??? :unsure:

For the record not casting aspersions or suggesting all emerged crew are trolls before anyone gets their panties in a twist
 

hedrox

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Great write up by Anatol on the LTR thread on the Crapper....it shows clearly how desperate the world is for Lithium..

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