AVZ Discussion 2022

cruiser51

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Yeah when dying of thirst in the desert you start drinking the sand. Official announcements only.
Right....
Too many over-excited vegimites wetting themselves, no need for that.

To settle the nerves:

 
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Potential stupid question alert - this seems to be assuming AVZ only portion of project (should be 75%) is worth that, so on these maths the total project is inferred to be worth 25% more?
Trying to figure out if the total project is sold for (using whole numbers for example purposes only here ) $5bn AUD , then shareholders only get 75% of that? Cheers

Potential stupid question alert - this seems to be assuming AVZ only portion of project (should be 75%) is worth that, so on these maths the total project is inferred to be worth 25% more?
Trying to figure out if the total project is sold for (using whole numbers for example purposes only here ) $5bn AUD , then shareholders only get 75% of that? Cheers
Hey Oz the 75 % is the actual lawful position of our ownership of Dathcom ( which lawfully owns PR 13359) we hold in our arbitration fight with DRC, Zijin, Comminiere et al. This of course does not reflect the current totally illegal position that DRC purports to be the situation. ie Manono lithium ( comminiere Zijin partnership) owns 15775 which is the northern section of 13359 that was magically created with the help of a few brown paper bags and Comminiere owns the remainder of 13359 ...apparently
AVZ DFS and subsequent massive resource upgrade was based on Roche Dure....the southern half. The northern half now pr 15775 has Carriere de L'este pegmatite which although partly drilled by AVZ was not part of the DFS.
Kobold in assessing their buy out figure have already conceded the north ( PR 15775) to Manono Lithium and Roche Dure is the target and this is what they are basing the project value on. Whatever the negotiated price is it is 100 % paid to AVZ....more a compensation payment than a payment for the project itself. Kibeya and his slime ball mates have already stolen the north and if anything Zijin may in fact be forced to pay some of the compensation package i reckon.
So the answer to the question is we get 100 % of payout...Comminiere can fuck right off. Hopefully we can by pass the DRC tax system as well
 
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Fuck, that story was a rerun of the 8 May story. I knew I shouldn’t read those idiots at the West Australian. Fucking click-bait, worse than the Toilet on the crapper

Jesus, I could still be rooted by the ICSID after all
 
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As my mission at the head of the
@MinMinesRDC comes to an end, I would like to express my deep gratitude to His Excellency the President of the Republic, Head of State, for the trust placed in my modest person, as well as to Her Excellency the Prime Minister @SuminwaJudith, Head of Government, for her constant support. It has been an honor and a privilege to serve our Nation in such a strategic sector. I extend my warm congratulations and wish every success to the members of the Suminwa II Government in the discharge of their high responsibilities. I leave my duties with the feeling of duty accomplished and remain confident about the continuation of the efforts undertaken, under the leadership of His Excellency @LouisWKabamba ,
Minister of Mines. KP

6:42 PM · Aug 8, 2025

 
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FatCatz

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wonder where Nigel and the board are in all of this? hopefully not left off the invite list...
 
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Huntian

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wonder where Nigel and the board are in all of this? hopefully not left off the invite list...
Ironically, I'd imagine much like this forum.... Nigel hasn't been invited into the private group chat yet 😉
 
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I can't seem to post in "the group", but the same narrative has been spouted since at least late May:

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Huntian

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Gee what a SAD day for AVZ, if not invited to the TABLE...imo..!
When you discuss the potential purchase price of a car or house with your partner do you invite the vendor into the discussion?...... go home nincompoop this place is for believers.
 
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cruiser51

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When you discuss the potential purchase price of a car or house with your partner do you invite the vendor into the discussion?...... go home nincompoop this place is for believers.
Forgive him, he is still coming to grips with high finance, it is a new concept for him.
Hence the name toolate.
 
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Xerof

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The collaboration reaches a new stage: KoBold has officially submitted applications for exploration permits for Congolese territory.

Published on : 08/07/2025 - 11:58 P.M2 mins

Hey fuckwit, how is this new news?

everyone except you it seems has known this since mid July, when the Kobold guy handed over about 21 files of application for permits to explore, with a brown paper bag lying on top :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

The photo was published on X and on TSE weeks ago, and you are just catching up?

The only part of the agreement left to be fulfilled was for the DRC to find an envoy to assist with settling 13359 legals, by 31 July. Oops….they can't find anyone who is acceptable to the US?

Sorry all, I’ve just come out of the ‘secret cave’ to get poor old toolate on the right track - again
 
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ozmacca

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Hey Oz the 75 % is the actual lawful position of our ownership of Dathcom ( which lawfully owns PR 13359) we hold in our arbitration fight with DRC, Zijin, Comminiere et al. This of course does not reflect the current totally illegal position that DRC purports to be the situation. ie Manono lithium ( comminiere Zijin partnership) owns 15775 which is the northern section of 13359 that was magically created with the help of a few brown paper bags and Comminiere owns the remainder of 13359 ...apparently
AVZ DFS and subsequent massive resource upgrade was based on Roche Dure....the southern half. The northern half now pr 15775 has Carriere de L'este pegmatite which although partly drilled by AVZ was not part of the DFS.
Kobold in assessing their buy out figure have already conceded the north ( PR 15775) to Manono Lithium and Roche Dure is the target and this is what they are basing the project value on. Whatever the negotiated price is it is 100 % paid to AVZ....more a compensation payment than a payment for the project itself. Kibeya and his slime ball mates have already stolen the north and if anything Zijin may in fact be forced to pay some of the compensation package i reckon.
So the answer to the question is we get 100 % of payout...Comminiere can fuck right off. Hopefully we can by pass the DRC tax system as well
Appreciate the response mate, cheers.

And agree, I vaguely remember DRC tax being something in the realm of 30%, which is fucken criminal given they’re been on the take the whole way through.

You’d think, or at least hope, that given the extent of corruption and evidence we’d have that any deal would have that tax waived. Or else the 30% to be added to the buyout price.

So…. $12 x 130%

(Note: edited to fix spelling as am overseas and a good few local brews deep. Cheers legends)
 
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Appreciate the response mate, cheers.

And agree, I vaguely remember DRC tax being something in the realm of 30%, which is fucken criminal given they’re been on the take the whole way through.

You’d think, or at least hope, that given the extent of corruption and evidence we’d have that any deal would have that tax waived. Or else the 30% to be added to the buyout price.

So…. $12 x 130%

(Note: edited to fix spelling as am overseas and a good few local brews deep. Cheers legends)
the DRC will owe over 100m in fines from ICC and ICSID which need to be taken in to account
 
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ptlas

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Appreciate the response mate, cheers.

And agree, I vaguely remember DRC tax being something in the realm of 30%, which is fucken criminal given they’re been on the take the whole way through.

You’d think, or at least hope, that given the extent of corruption and evidence we’d have that any deal would have that tax waived. Or else the 30% to be added to the buyout price.

So…. $12 x 130%

(Note: edited to fix spelling as am overseas and a good few local brews deep. Cheers legends)
I think that the correct maths is US$12 ÷ 0.7 = $17.42
Hey fuckwit, how is this new news?

everyone except you it seems has known this since mid July, when the Kobold guy handed over about 21 files of application for permits to explore, with a brown paper bag lying on top :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:

The photo was published on X and on TSE weeks ago, and you are just catching up?

The only part of the agreement left to be fulfilled was for the DRC to find an envoy to assist with settling 13359 legals, by 31 July. Oops….they can't find anyone who is acceptable to the US?

Sorry all, I’ve just come out of the ‘secret cave’ to get poor old toolate on the right track - again
A valiant effort my friend. Unfortunately, even you are fighting a losing battle with this wanker.

... and in other news, one of our finest is today's top crapper:

pow4ade

The primary reason Kobold has come to Australia IMO is to tie up RIO in a JV, after getting nowhere for months with their lowball offer to Nigel. Otherwise why travel here without the requisite funding.

Worth noting that RIO executive branch is located in Perth, not London, with new CEO taking over on August 25. Despite terminating the current CEO the chairman subsequently confirmed that the BOD retained their focus on lithium growth.

Kobold know exactly what Nigel wants and time is not on their side so presumably they think a JV can get them over the line. Exciting time with Nigel in the box seat IMO.
Sorry it's a bit disjointed, on my phone only.
 
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Xerof

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thats your two over here for $1
now, duck over to the crapper to double your money - hurry, you’re slightly behind schedule
 
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Huntian

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Let me know if you need any further help Tolate.
 
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SilentOne

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I thought that this video on Silicon / Lithium was interesting

VIDEO LINK
 
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