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WBT now $1B MC & BRN now $1.13B MC.

BRN is a few years ahead of WBT who recently taped out their chip.

BRN also has many big companies as partners.

BRN heavily shorted whereas WBT is not.

Is WBT expensive or is BRN inexpensive?
WBT's product is simply much more well understood than Brainchip's.

Everyone already knows where RAM and FLASH memory are currently used and what it does. They can easily see that the far superior ReRAM can easily be swapped in its place and hence they can see value in ReRAM and Weebit.

On the other hand, very few truly understand the advantages offered by Akida and struggle to see its value.

Implementations using ReRAM will not suffer a development cycle and subsequent lag in getting to market, unlike products employing Akida which will take years to come to market. I also expect less (even zero) NDAs for Weebit customers. Except those maybe using ReRAM for novel products and with advantage over competitors.

IMHO, and note this is ONLY my opinion even as honest as it can be, I believe time will show that both companies are EXTREMELY undervalued. They both have a lot of room to grow, and grow they both will. They each have HUGE TAMs—large enough to allow many competitors even.

Also IMHO, Weebit's ReRAM doesn't have as wide a moat as Brainchip's Akida. Other ReRAM offerings already exist. Weebit will probably market their offering as a viable alternative to ReRAM from the big players, such as TSMC. But I do believe Weebit have a bit of a moat with their selector, which they are still trying to improve.

And note: Weebit is currently forming some huge partnerships. Players will be knocking down the doors on both companies soon.

And as a final say: many on this forum would already be aware of my efforts to get Weebit and Brainchip into a partnership. If that happens, their growth will feed off, and self-promote, each other.
 
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Coby touched on this at the meet and greet. Don't quote me but I think he said that it was a long term goal.

EDIT: How good is Youtube transcript feature! Here are his exact words (complete with um's) :ROFLMAO::

"if you look at further in terms of the AI neuromorphic stuff there's a question that's coming around is there any update on the research that's been undertaken in that space. Um there's ongoing work uh you know talking about short and Midterm I always said that's the longer term that's uh not something that's really anywhere in in the near term so there is work going on with these research institutes there's progress being made um but it's right now we're so swamped with the short term with getting um getting these uh initial Fab agreements customer agreements".
WoW, thanks for the tip I really appreciate it! Then maybe I could have saved some stupid questions (e.g. about the selector.)
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For me I have the perfect candidate for the transscript function. I sometimes find it really hard to understand Indians 😅
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https://thestockexchange.com.au/threads/brn-discussion-ongoing.1/post-236654
 
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Real-time intelligent fusion service, forklift-assist program could enhance warehouse efficiency, safety

Anna Akins February 7, 2023
Real-time intelligent fusion service, forklift-assist program could enhance warehouse efficiency, safety
A photo showing how GTRI's Real-Time Intelligent Fusion Service would appear to a forklift driver. By giving warehouse workers real-time information about everything going on in the warehouse, RIFS could help reduce the risk of accidents and streamline efficiencies. Credit: Stephen Balakirsky, GTRI
Although warehouses are vital to the success of many organizations, they can also be dangerous to workers and inefficient.

The Georgia Tech Research Institute (GTRI) is working to solve this challenge by integrating its Real-time Intelligent Fusion Service (RIFS) into its Forklift Assist System (FAS) for warehouse operations to streamline efficiencies and enhance worker safety. RIFS, which is a part of FAS, was built with the cross-platform game engine Unity and produces spatial information about a room and then displays that information as meshes on a device, such as a desktop computer or tablet. FAS also includes a camera system that has additional forklift assistance features.

This project has been supported by the U.S. Marine Corps and U.S. Navy, and has also been tested at the Marine Corps Logistics Base in Albany, Georgia.

According to recent estimates, the average U.S. warehouse wastes 6.9 weeks a year on unnecessary motion, which costs the industry $4.3 billion, or 265 million hours of labor annually. Additionally, in 2020, the latest year for which statistics are available, there were 5.5 injury and illness cases per 100 full-time workers and 21 fatalities in the warehouse and storage industry.

RIFS would be incorporated into a warehouse's order management system and provide real-time information about everything going on in the warehouse. For example, a forklift operator could display RIFS on their tablet device and it would help them navigate to their pick up and drop off locations while ensuring they steer clear of obstacles.

"The system would know where all the other forklifts and people are in the warehouse and have route planning functionality," said Stephen Balakirsky, a GTRI principal research scientist who is leading the project. "A lot of warehouses have one-way aisles and it can be difficult for humans to determine the most efficient path to take, but RIFS could automatically determine that for you."

RIFS works by creating a grid of a particular environment with individual grid spaces that indicate which areas are traversable or not, explained GTRI Research Scientist Emily Strube, who has expertise with RIFS. The software then utilizes a pathfinding algorithm to determine the effort or "cost" required to move from one grid space to another and maps out the most efficient path possible. People and objects are shown as meshes, or geometric objects, in RIFS.

For example, in a warehouse, the algorithm would determine how much effort is required for a worker to move from their current position to their pick up or drop off point and outlines the most expedient route, Strube said.

She added that the algorithm can be adjusted to accommodate changes in a warehouse's workflow and forklift routes.

FAS' camera system would help forklift drivers move towards a pallet and secure it without damaging the warehouse's infrastructure or other pallets and items. The camera system would also have a backup feature to give drivers additional awareness as they move throughout the space in reverse.

To reduce the risk of forklift loads colliding with the top of doorframes, GTRI is also considering developing and installing sensors near doorways to alert drivers of imminent collisions.

"There are lots of different safety features that could be added to this project," Balakirsky said.

Additionally, GTRI seeks to further utilize RIFS to provide remote inspection and validation of inventory through virtual reality (VR) technology, where the warehouse maps and images would be created by autonomous robots.

RIFS has been incorporated into several other projects, including GTRI's Independent Research and Development (IRAD) of the Year winner for fiscal year 2022, which Strube leads. That project seeks to increase the situational awareness of troops on the ground.

Provided by Georgia Institute of Technology

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Well we have to allow for that possibility because, while Anil is the King of CMOS, he would not have the same level of experience with FD-SOI.

That said, I'm confident his experience, dedication, and meticulousness will win through - that and the FD-SOI experts he engages. Engineers understand theoretical limits and safety factors.

The design will have been thoroughly tested by simulation before tape-out commenced.

In the unlikely event that it is not 100%, an autopsy will find the problem and it will work the second time around.
I don't think it's his disbelief.

From his question, (as I understand) he was trying to know the process of "what if" such a scenario were to occur.

Thank you to @Diogenese and @BaconLover , that was what I was trying to get at.

I don't doubt the technology and do have faith in the Brainchip team. Whilst I'm sure that they have done their utmost due diligence, there is that 1% chance of something not going according to plan and was interested in understanding potential contingencies, such as speed tracking the AKD2000, etc..
I didn't ask the question lightly, in vain, or in any way to undermine any one else on the forum, or cast doubt in their mind about the technology - In my time as an Engineer in the automotive industry I've seen high profile projects go pear shaped. These weren't projects/products managed & developed by any of our teams in Australia. These were lead by dream teams out of Detroit, Frankfurt & Berlin, and yet they did at times managed to get it wrong. What was important was the subsequent recovery and how quickly they could get back on track.

(To the other poster, you were wrong, I'm only 4 :) )
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I've said it before but once more for the dummies.....Peter and Anil would not have spent the time and money on taping it out if they weren't confident it was going to work...................:rolleyes:
And NASA have some of the best scientists and professors working on AI and I believe they have probably been working along side brainchip into getting this to taping out.


Shit did I just write something normal, I must be getting old.
 
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Espionage!



... or just checking the weather in the bedroom?

More taking the air out of the room on the suggestion the 1500 is no good



Or going down like a lead baloon..



Ill find abetter gif next time
 
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Gender reveal fail
It's an.....orange! Congratulations you are having a fruit.

Also, I hate gender reveals. Such a self righteous act.
 
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Thank you to @Diogenese and @BaconLover , that was what I was trying to get at.

I don't doubt the technology and do have faith in the Brainchip team. Whilst I'm sure that they have done their utmost due diligence, there is that 1% chance of something not going according to plan and was interested in understanding potential contingencies, such as speed tracking the AKD2000, etc..
I didn't ask the question lightly, in vain, or in any way to undermine any one else on the forum, or cast doubt in their mind about the technology - In my time as an Engineer in the automotive industry I've seen high profile projects go pear shaped. These weren't projects/products managed & developed by any of our teams in Australia. These were lead by dream teams out of Detroit, Frankfurt & Berlin, and yet they did at times managed to get it wrong. What was important was the subsequent recovery and how quickly they could get back on track.

(To the other poster, you were wrong, I'm only 4 :) )
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From my understanding of the Akida 1000 iterative process,

(1) Sample chip design ==> (2) Sample chip tapeout ==> (3) Sample chip batch testing ==> (4) Tweaks & improvements to design ==> (5) Production chip tapeout ==> (6) Production chip testing ==> (7) Production chip sale.

For Akida 1500 we're on step (2). Any errors or features not working to spec will be discovered in (3) and corrected in (4). The thing to understand is that for modern chips, before tapeout, all features of the chip would have already been tested on advanced chip design and simulation software, which would reveal any potential problems in the design of the chips, thus significant failure of the first batch is highly improbable.
 
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It's an.....orange! Congratulations you are having a fruit.

Also, I hate gender reveals. Such a self righteous act.
im 42 and still not sure.....
 
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im 42 and still not sure.....

I'm about the same age and thought I was a male until, I read all the modern gobbledigook and I've come to the conclusion I'm a fabulous royal two-tailed unicorn whose pronouns are "Its Highness / Its Excellency" (first letters always capitalised as befitting of a royal unicorn).
 
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PVD has offered an open invitation, on linked in, to go and let him know what info you want him to share. What a great opportunity.

I hope the people don't start asking him why is BRN SP so low. 🤦‍♂️

On a positive not this makes me feel like Akida 1500 is going well and future iterations are moving along really well. If there were issues on hand I think he would not have time for networking !
 
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This sounds familiar


January 17, 2023

A robot able to "smell" using a biological sensor


A new technological development by Tel Aviv University has made it possible for a robot to smell using a biological sensor.

In this new study, the researchers successfully connected the biological sensor to an electronic system and, using a machine learning algorithm, were able to identify odors with a level of sensitivity 10,000 times higher than that of a commonly used electronic device. The researchers believe that in light of the success of their research, this technology may also be used in the future to identify explosives, drugs, diseases, and more.

The biological and technological breakthrough was led by doctoral student Neta Shvil of Tel Aviv University's Sagol School of Neuroscience, Dr. Ben Maoz of the Fleischman Faculty of Engineering and the Sagol School of Neuroscience, and Prof. Yossi Yovel and Prof. Amir Ayali of the School of Zoology and the Sagol School of Neuroscience. The results of the study were published in Biosensors and Bioelectronics.

Dr. Maoz and Prof. Ayali explain, "Man-made technologies still can't compete with millions of years of evolution. One area in which we particularly lag behind the animal world is that of smell perception. An example of this can be found at the airport where we go through a magnetometer that costs millions of dollars and can detect if we are carrying any metal devices."

"But when they want to check if a passenger is smuggling drugs, they bring in a dog to sniff him. In the animal world, insects excel at receiving and processing sensory signals. A mosquito, for example, can detect a 0.01 percent difference in the level of carbon dioxide in the air. Today, we are far from producing sensors whose capabilities come close to those of insects."


Credit: Tel Aviv University
The researchers point out that, in general, our sensory organs, such as the eye, ear and nose—as well as those of all other animals—use receptors that identify and distinguish between different signals. Then, the sensory organ translates these findings into electrical signals, which the brain decodes as information. The challenge of biosensors is in the connection of a sensory organ, like the nose, to an electronic system that knows how to decode the electrical signals received from the receptors.

Prof. Yovel says, "We connected the biological sensor and let it smell different odors while we measured the electrical activity that each odor induced. The system allowed us to detect each odor at the level of the insect's primary sensory organ. Then, in the second step, we used machine learning to create a 'library' of smells. In the study, we were able to characterize 8 odors, such as geranium, lemon and marzipan, in a way that allowed us to know when the smell of lemon or marzipan was presented."

"In fact, after the experiment was over, we continued to identify additional different and unusual smells, such as various types of Scotch whiskey. A comparison with standard measuring devices showed that the sensitivity of the insect's nose in our system is about 10,000 times higher than the devices that are in use today."

Dr. Maoz concludes, "Nature is much more advanced than we are, so we should use it. The principle we have demonstrated can be used and applied to other senses, such as sight and touch. For example, some animals have amazing abilities to detect explosives or drugs; the creation of a robot with a biological nose could help us preserve human life and identify criminals in a way that is not possible today. Some animals know how to detect diseases. Others can sense earthquakes. The sky is the limit."

More information: Shvil Neta et al, The Locust antenna as an odor discriminator, Biosensors and Bioelectronics (2022). DOI: 10.1016/j.bios.2022.114919

Provided by Tel Aviv University

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This is interesting. This extract is from an article published 9 hours ago and provides some insight into the progress of Qualcomm's new CPU processors called "Oryon" featuring Nuvia technology. Apparently they're being sampled by OEM's and exceeding expectation. The processors are set to come out in 2024, pending the outcome of a lawsuit that Arm has filed against Qualcomm.

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It has been stated previously that Qualcomm's Oryon would employ a custom CPU architecture based on the Arm instruction set, but it will not be an off-the-shelf Arm core architecture. Remember yonks ago Rob Telson "liked" Leendert Van Doorn's post in which Leendert talked about Arm's CPU technology being "years ahead of the competition". (see below).

It'll be interesting to see how this plays out seeing Arm has filed a lawsuit against Qualcomm for breach of certain license agreements with Arm and trademark infringement. Arm is seeking specific performance of the contractual obligation to destroy certain Nuvia designs, an injunction against trademark infringement as well as fair compensation for the trademark infringement.


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Sorry for off-topic, completely non Akida realted, just about Qualcomm:

I'm following the news about Nuvia since before they were aquired by Qualcomm. Mainly because I thought they could potentially become a company that will put on pressure for all the x86 based chip companies and will move the energy efficiency and performance of windows based devices more in the direction of what apple has done with its M-series chips. Therefore a buyout was obvious, but I had hoped it would be AMD or Nvidia, but that's a different story ;)

As you probably know Nuvia's founders previously worked in the chip design space for Apple and Google (and various other companies). Before the dispute between ARM and Qualcomm there was already a lawsuit startet by Apple against one of Nuvia's founders.

And although I can't proove it, the whole ARM vs Qualcomm story makes the impression of a proxy-war between Apple and Qualcomm,
especially as Apple had a stake in ARM (maybe still has) as Wikiopedia provides the following information about ARM:
The company was founded in November 1990 as Advanced RISC Machines Ltd and structured as a joint venture between Acorn Computers, Apple, and VLSI Technology. Acorn provided 12 employees, VLSI provided tools, Apple provided $3 million investment.[17][18] Larry Tesler, Apple VP was a key person and the first CEO at the joint venture.[19][20]

Edit: fixed some typos
 
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"Arm is the world's biggest supplier of the underlying technology for chips that power mobile phones, so with Apple and Qualcomm recently reporting gloomier-than-expected financial outlooks because of a slump in the smartphone industry, you'd expect Arm to be feeling the pain. But Arm CEO Rene Haas told Reuters that while Arm is "not immune" to the downturn, diversifying the company's business in to data center server chips and boosting its content in advanced phone chips are helping it weather the storm. Read the full Reuters piece here -"

 
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Bravo

If ARM was an arm, BRN would be its biceps💪!
PVD has offered an open invitation, on linked in, to go and let him know what info you want him to share. What a great opportunity.


Oh no, why did he do that tonight! Now I'll be up all night writing huge lists of questions and I have to get up super early in the morning too!
 
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A couple of comments.

Tapeout of the AKIDA 1500 has occurred.

In electronics and photonics design, tape-out or tapeout is the final result of the design process for integrated circuits or printed circuit boards before they are sent for manufacturing. The tapeout is specifically the point at which the graphic for the photomask of the circuit is sent to the fabrication facility. (Taken from Wikipedia)

I've stated in a previous message that I believe that our customers are waiting to see the results of the AKIDA 1500 before they commit to signing contracts/deals (ie they know that a better performing chip is coming out and they want that extra functionality).

Now I'm going to ask a question that I don't want to ask. It is a hard question, that will have an equally hard answer. I say this because I've been a holder of BRN shares for the last 6 or so years, have not sold a single share over that time, and truly believe they have a tech that is unique and can change the face of compute forever (and I want them to succeed for all the reasons we talk about on these forums).

But, here is the question:
What happens if at the conclusion of the testing phase, the result is that the AKIDA1500 does not performed to the expected specification?
There is nothing wrong with you, but there is clearly something wrong with the person who has an "oat latte love" cat as their avatar and declares holdings of 98% of their portfolio in an infinite PE, stock of which most have been smashed the past 13 months.

No the only thing wrong is this person who has to write defamatory and offensive insults at someone else's honest question to feel better about themselves.. Its a shame to see you all eating your own here. Disgraceful and immature human beings attacking people in that manner.

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There is nothing wrong with you, but there is clearly something wrong with the person who has an "oat latte love" cat as their avatar and declares holdings of 98% of their portfolio in an infinite PE, stock of which most have been smashed the past 13 months.

No the only thing wrong is this person who has to write defamatory and offensive insults at someone else's honest question to feel better about themselves.. Its a shame to see you all eating your own here. Disgraceful and immature human beings attacking people in that manner.

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