BRN Discussion Ongoing

DingoBorat · Feb 16, 2023

AusEire said:
Can you remember the total volume for the day?

Yes.

Are you implying that the slide yesterday, wasn't a result of manipulation and merely innumerable rusted on share holders, deciding that "then" was the time to throw in the towel?

Remember the actual number of shorts taken out and intelligently utilised, is only one mechanism for manipulating a company's share price.

It's definitely like a shot of nitrous oxide for the other measures though.

There's also more than one party's interest, in a lower share price.

LDA Capital, being the most prominent, at this time.
Algorithms can manipulate a share price, without ever touching a borrowed share.

Also remember "Big guys" can see "Stop losses" which just appear to them as "Sell orders".
They don't "blindly" hunt for them.

People should set alerts and then decide to act, if they are of the type who either can't manage their investment closely, or are concerned about fluctuations in the share price.

Also those "reported shorts" are just that.
What is "reported".

Anyone who thinks we're playing on a fair and level playing field, is not paying attention..

AusEire · Feb 16, 2023

DingoBorat said:
Yes.

Are you implying that the slide yesterday, wasn't a result of manipulation and merely innumerable rusted on share holders, deciding that "then" was the time to throw in the towel?

Remember the actual number of shorts taken out and intelligently utilised, is only one mechanism for manipulating a company's share price.

It's definitely like a shot of nitrous oxide for the other measures though.

There's also more than one party's interest, in a lower share price.

LDA Capital, being the most prominent, at this time.
Algorithms can manipulate a share price, without ever touching a borrowed share.

Also those "reported shorts" are just that.
What is "reported".

Anyone who thinks we're playing on a fair and level playing field, is not paying attention..

Not at all. Just interested to see this against the total volume.

For instance if the total volume was 9million and the short volume is 5.6m(as is the case) then it tells a much bigger story. IMO of course

Fastback6666 · Feb 16, 2023

Wow, these cheap shares are just being absolutely sucked up today, and 18million so far. The line wipe out at 55 cents was impressive in one large buy as well as some other huge buys. Another 18 million reasons why Brainchip is wanted and soon to deliver commercially.

GStocks123 · Feb 16, 2023

Tha

Bravo said:
Yes @Sirod69! And thanks to @Neuromorphia original post #37,952 here is the video!

(41min 51 sec) Anil Mankar says something like "...we actually also directly worked with the camera like Prophesee and Oculi that will see that we can learn on the device and learn from the incoming spike..."

(41min 51 sec)

Full video

Thays

Bravo said:
Yes @Sirod69! And thanks to @Neuromorphia original post #37,952 here is the video!

(41min 51 sec) Anil Mankar says something like "...we actually also directly worked with the camera like Prophesee and Oculi that will see that we can learn on the device and learn from the incoming spike..."

(41min 51 sec)

Full video

That’s the one!

DingoBorat · Feb 16, 2023

AusEire said:
Not at all. Just interested to see this against the total volume.

For instance if the total volume was 9million and the short volume is 5.6m(as is the case) then it tells a much bigger story. IMO of course

Total volume was well over 30 million, that's why I thought you were saying, the shorted amount was only a small part of that.

Shorting in large measures, acts as leverage for other measures.

Now no more talk about shorters, when what we saw yesterday, was just a "natural" part of how the "Market" reacts to a Company, that is "failing" to progress..

alwaysgreen · Feb 16, 2023

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Fastback6666 said:
Wow, these cheap shares are just being absolutely sucked up today, and 18million so far. The line wipe out at 55 cents was impreseve in one large buy as well as some other huge buys. Another 18 million reasons why Brainchip is wanted and soon to deliver commercially.

It's a great price to get in imo. I started buying at 15 cents but my average is a tick under 50.

Really looking forward to the podcast. Let's hope they answer some of our questions.

alwaysgreen · Feb 16, 2023

DingoBorat said:
Total volume was well over 30 million, that's why I thought you were saying, the shorted amount was only a small part of that.

Shorting in large measures, acts as leverage for other measures.

Now no more talk about shorters, when what we saw yesterday, was just a "natural" part of how the "Market" reacts to a Company, that is "failing" to progress..

45 mill yesterday. Insane numbers.

Beebo · Feb 16, 2023

Akida 1000: got us the DATE with EAPs
Akida 1500: will get them to fall in LOVE with our IP
Akida 2000: will get us to MULTIPLY

How’s that for excitement?

latnrollah · Feb 16, 2023

Hi!
Longtime listener first time caller.

Not sure if this has been shared

14:32 “expecting revenue this year for sure”

11:33 “Primary vertices we are having success in certainly Medical, certainly industrial and certainly automobile “

12:00 “(Mercedes) We aren’t allowed to talk about our relationship there”

16:30 “interesting use cases such as drones aswell”

DingoBorat · Feb 16, 2023

Mugen74 said:
Brn not showing in top gainers again on comsuc!

The Top 5 is updated every 20 minutes.

You don't expect the ASX200 Top 5, to be updated "live" on the ASX website, in the year 2023 do you

..

Mugen74 · Feb 16, 2023

ts been longer than 20mins DB. I guess Comsuc must have "accidently" missed the rise.

Diogenese · Feb 16, 2023

DingoBorat said:
Yes.

Are you implying that the slide yesterday, wasn't a result of manipulation and merely innumerable rusted on share holders, deciding that "then" was the time to throw in the towel?

Remember the actual number of shorts taken out and intelligently utilised, is only one mechanism for manipulating a company's share price.

It's definitely like a shot of nitrous oxide for the other measures though.

There's also more than one party's interest, in a lower share price.

LDA Capital, being the most prominent, at this time.
Algorithms can manipulate a share price, without ever touching a borrowed share.

Also remember "Big guys" can see "Stop losses" which just appear to them as "Sell orders".
They don't "blindly" hunt for them.

People should set alerts and then decide to act, if they are of the type who either can't manage their investment closely, or are concerned about fluctuations in the share price.

Also those "reported shorts" are just that.
What is "reported".

Anyone who thinks we're playing on a fair and level playing field, is not paying attention..

Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

buena suerte :-) · Feb 16, 2023

Mugen74 said:
Brn not showing in top gainers again on comsuc!

There now Mugen

S&P/ASX 200 top 5

GAINS

CODE / NAME	LAST PRICE	$ / % CHANGE
ORA ORORA LIMITED	3.340	0.440 (15.172%)
SHL SONIC HEALTHCARE LIMITED	32.885	3.825 (13.162%)
BRN BRAINCHIP HOLDINGS LTD	0.565	0.055 (10.784%)
MFG MAGELLAN FINANCIAL GROUP LIMITED	10.330	0.880 (9.312%)
ABP ABACUS PROPERTY GROUP	3.110	0.260 (9.122%)

buena suerte :-) · Feb 16, 2023

AusEire said:
Not at all. Just interested to see this against the total volume.

For instance if the total volume was 9million and the short volume is 5.6m(as is the case) then it tells a much bigger story. IMO of course

Hey AusEire ............ total traded shares was 45,504,376

Fastback6666 · Feb 16, 2023

Diogenese said:
Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

It's shocking for sure - but into's see it as good financial planning

DingoBorat · Feb 16, 2023

Diogenese said:
Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

Technically, yes.

But if the honey's there and the bees have no sting..

What would you do, if you were a bear?

This should be good!

Fullmoonfever · Feb 16, 2023

Diogenese said:
Using knowledge of stop losses, which is not public information, to depress the SP to hit the stop losses would be insider trading.

You can actually legally get Level 2 which opens the order book flow so have a better idea of where trades and orders are moving.

Whilst Brokers etc will have more sophisticated systems, this is available to retailers as well.

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Bravo · Feb 16, 2023

Here's a thought! What if we drew up a list of questions that Rob might be able to shed some light on in an upcoming podcast? Obviously they should only be questions that he can answer without getting into NDA territory. I'll start with the following suggestions:

Will Akida 1500 have LSTM and transformers as per the original roadmap?
In what sort of capacity might Akida 1000 still be useful that differentiates it from Akida 1500?
Do you think the Australian Government should mandate the use of Akida as a part of its net zero by 2050 plans and which politician should we stalk to about this?
Do you think most of us will be able to retire in a few years?
Does the tablecloth actually belong to anyone on the BOD or does it get locked up in the store-room for the next conference?

Diogenese · Feb 16, 2023

Fullmoonfever said:
You can actually legally get Level 2 which opens the order book flow so have a better idea of where trades and orders are moving.

Whilst Brokers etc will have more sophisticated systems, this is available to retailers as well.

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Proprietary information is not public information.

Someone posted a podcast on S1041A of the Corportaions Act:

CORPORATIONS ACT 2001 - SECT 1041A

Market manipulation
A person must not take part in, or carry out (whether directly or indirectly and whether in this jurisdiction or elsewhere):

(a) a transaction that has or is likely to have; or

(b) 2 or more transactions that have or are likely to have;

the effect of:

(c) creating an artificial price for trading in financial products on a financial market operated in this jurisdiction; or

(d) maintaining at a level that is artificial (whether or not it was previously artificial) a price for trading in financial products on a financial market operated in this jurisdiction.

Note 1: Failure to comply with this section is an offence (see subsection 1311(1)).

Note 2: This section is also a civil penalty provision (see section 1317E). For relief from liability to a civil penalty relating to this section, see section 1317S.

Fullmoonfever · Feb 16, 2023

Prev post back in Oct on some Oculi I was looking at then.